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Dual monitor use

Discussion in 'Gaming and PC Discussion' started by Midknight, Nov 15, 2008.

  1. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Never bothered to learn how to do this, but I see Vash at least has an interesting system set up.

    I want to be able to play a game on my LCD on one monitor output, and stream video to my TV on the other. Hows do I goes about doing it?

    I can clone the outputs just fine, but how do I use it so say, Fallout 3 goes to my monitor, while a tv show goes to the tv? Using Nvidia, yes Jon.
     
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  2. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    if you had an ati card I could tell you how to do it easily.. but you have an Nvidia don't you? :p
     
  3. World

    World Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Can't you just do that with normal windows?

    I use UltraMon which can save setting profiles and add taskbars to each monitor (only the tasks though, so no start button etc).
     
  4. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    I don't want to extend the desktop to the tv World. I want to be able to play games on a set device, and output the video to another.
     
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    Pretty sure that doing it how World said works. I've been able to play TF2 on one monitor, and view youtube/IRC/other activities on the other. o_O
     
  6. Danjam

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    By video, do you mean just youtube, and stuff like that, or something else?

    If you just want youtube, or windows media player, do what World said, otherwise specify exactly what you mean by video.

    Edit:
    Where's the TV show coming from? Because if you just want to watch it how you normally watch TV, there's no need to hook it up to the PC.
     
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    Danjam, he did specify. Although, its a bit unclear...

    Maybe you could just change the settings on your TV from moniter input to Television input... using the menu on your tele.
     
  8. yak

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    Until someone better informed comes along, I just tried this out. I had HalfLife 2 on one monitor and a full screen tv show on the other (high def xvid).

    I only played HalfLife 2 for a few minutes in Ravenholm, but it ran at full speed without a problem. The xvid file also ran without a problem. I can see two problems with this set up though.

    1. There is no way for anyone to control the video that's being played. Turning on subtitles, volume, pause/play, etc. are out of the question. The game has focus, and so all input devices belong to it. You wouldn't be able to use your system as a media center without discovering a way around this.

    2. Sound. How do you split the media player's sound from the game's? I assume that you could do this with a secondary sound card and direct the media software to use that instead, but I've never actually done this. You'd want to make sure that your sound card plays well with others and doesn't require your onboard audio to be disabled.

    Does anyone know of a way around either of these problems? A software solution allowing mediacenter-like control while allowing gaming to continue uninterrupted would be awesome.
     
  9. Murton

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    I'm not sure, but I think a Vista Media Centre remote can control a media player whilst another full screen application is going, you just gotta have two sound cards, say a onboard/PCI and a USB so you can assign the two devices to the different applications. I will try it out once I reinstall my IR drivers, but I think it's pretty possible as when I have Vista Media Centre full Screen on my second monitor, it acts like a full screen application as in you have to alt tab out of it but can still put the mouse over it but it will 'go to full screen' when you click on it and can't move your mouse out of it.

    So yes. Get Vista Media Centre (Vista I know :() and get a Vista Media Centre remote and you can do what you want, you just gotta get a USB sound card and assign it to Vista Media Centre and then you will have full separate control as I think using the remote will not cause VMC to become 'full screen"
     
  10. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    I'm actually planning on trying Vista Ultimate 64 bit, it's been several months since I last tried it, prior to SP1, and I havent tried 64 bit.

    Anyway, I did try it as World suggested. Fallout 3 runs full speed fine, but after about 3 seconds, the avi stops playing in Media Player Classic. And yes you can't control or split the audio. I think I can get around that by figuring out how to output MPC directly through the mobo's built in sound.

    I'm not worried so much about being able to control the video, I can just make a playlist and let it run. See, I turned off my cable TV subscription saving 80 bucks a month, and I just keep doing what I've been doing, which is download the TV shows anyway, so I can watch em at 1am when I'm bored without waking anyone else up, lol.

    I figure I've started getting back into gaming again, so I want to be able to game while the family isn't stuck watching DVDs of crap we've had for years =P

    So, I gotta figure out how to split the audio and why the hell the video stops playing after a few seconds. Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, my G15 can control the basic controls like previous/next play/stop just so long as I play it in Winamp.
     
  11. Murton

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    if you can actually have your onboard sound not disabled whilst having a PCI sound card in, theni it's easy to output sound from winamp to it. I personnaly would use VLC, but that's just me.

    And Middy: I'm using Vista and I'll tell you, I hate it, only use it because the sound drivers won't work in XP.
     
  12. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    I hated Vista 32 bit. I thought it was a clusterfucked resource hog. I did have a lot of BSODs or lockups, etc. But I did manage to trace that back to shitty drivers.

    You using 64 bit? And is it any better?
     
  13. World

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    I just tried playing Fallout 3 and watching a video. Didn't quite work with Media Player Classic (first F3 crashed, second time showed nothing (sound still worked)). With VLC, it worked like a charm.
     
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    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    I was using Zoom Player which seems to have gone heavy into dual screen specialisation lately. The business edition supports electronic billboards, etc. I prefer it over VLC and MPC by a very wide margin. Like VLC, it already contains all of the codecs you'll need (except quicktime and realmedia I think, due to legal restrictions).
     
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    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    I still hate VLC. The player controls I just don't like. Where are the random, repeat track, repeat playlist options at?

    I did get it working, I think. Installed the Realtek updated drivers for the 750i, the EVGA ones provided didnt work well. Set MPC to output to the Audigy PCI card, set Winamp to output to the built in sound on the motherboard. The audio outputs correctly without problem, need to see if the video will.
     
  17. Murton

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    The repeat/shuffle etc are in the playlist screen.

    View > Playlist.

    VLC > WMPC by a wide margin.

    The thing about VLC is that is uses the most minimal amount of resources with the greatest results. No bullshit skins which are unnecessary.
     
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    Can you tell us how you did it? I'm sure there's someone else out there that would want this kind of setup if possible.
     
  20. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Video followed Worlds suggestion, audio,

    Nvidia has a setup in their options called Dual view, you could do it through there as well.