Freestyle rap and underground mixes [Archive]

Antivash

09-17-2005, 09:04 AM

Midknight

09-17-2005, 12:34 PM

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you mean we arent supposed to do that... well damn.. there goes MY income >_> ...

never listened to jada myself... i aint listened to much rap in years... not since Run DMC, the old dr dre and snoop, NWZ and eaze E .. the good stuff before these idiots like master P and R kelly showed up... Ludacris i do like some of... ive still got a copy of Doggystyle in mint condition while the discusting juvenile crap is a cupholder

alot of the stuff out there now is commercial fake bullshit i.e. 50cent, Snoop. As much as I like Nelly's flow and beats I just cant stand how he flops from underground to prep school commercial.

I don't have alot of rap on my hd compared to my R&B stuff, but what I do keep on their constantly is underground mixtape stuff from Game (alot of good diss records against 50) Jae Hood and the rest of D Block, a few smaller rappers that haven't gone large yet.

Its a nice chance of pace from the John Mayer/Craig David/Boyz 2 men stuff I listen to relax.

IndoGhost

09-17-2005, 01:21 PM

you got Jin? That is one sick asian when it comes to freestyles..songs he's ok, but freestyles he rocks

Midknight

09-17-2005, 02:17 PM

not gotten any of him yet getting it now, but i've seen him on a kontraband clip of him on BET battling another dude and starting mixing wyclef and the dude's name brand names into his ryhmes and it got sick.

IndoGhost

09-17-2005, 03:11 PM

found a link to all his freestyle battles online:
http://www.media.holla-front.com/videos/106/

SlytherinDamian

09-17-2005, 03:34 PM

I haven't listened to much rap since 2pac died, my heart hasn't been in it. I don't mind commerciality (is that a word?) though, a few 50 Cent and snoop songs are alright IMO. My problem is largly the misogyny. I don't care for it.

I notice that whilst decrying commercial rap, no one mentioned the most commercial rapper of all... Eminem. I can't stand him, but then again, I hate white rappers.

Midknight

09-17-2005, 06:27 PM

Eminem is off on a class of his own, I don't even bother to include the guy when I think of rappers.

I got Jin offa TBP, and he does have some great rhymes on his cd, but they're coupled with stupid choruses that don't seem to match well with the rest of the story. The annoying ass chinese speak from the grisl in the background through half of the songs is not amusing.

IndoGhost

09-17-2005, 06:40 PM

commercial rappers come out with good joints sometimes...i like eminem...he got a sick mind and funny as hell, but he's good with the rymes. yea jins cd is like that

Midknight

09-17-2005, 06:58 PM

commercial rappers come out with good joints sometimes...i like eminem...he got a sick mind and funny as hell, but he's good with the rymes. yea jins cd is like that

Yeah I agree Em is good with the rhymes, and I enjoyed alot of his freestyles stuff before he blew up.

Jin's just aggravating me, he's like some of Jae Hood's stuff, amazing lyrically at times, but you can clearly see when he stumbles, it's like pasting a good song with a bad song, you can see the exact moment it goes to crap

-rofl Why you acting like I aint the one, you got me battling Bruce Lee's grandson

EDIT: Jesus christ, after watching all of the free battles, that guy is goddamned insane, its a freaking MAJOR shame all that talent didn't tranfer

Giovanni

09-17-2005, 10:45 PM

I respect only three rap artists.

Tupac Shakur- He rapped about shit that MATTERED before he went off into his little bullshit argument with Biggie.

Kanye West- He has impressed me so far with his style, and oddly enough class.

Eminem- The man was emphasis on WAS a genius.. His last album put me off a bit, it was like he was going through an identity crisis with his music and didn't know it. Half the album was good, the other half was crap.

Artists I have NO respect for

50 Cent- So what you can buy and sell drugs, and were fortunate enough to have doctors save your life. Frankly I don't care, 50 belongs in jail... Not for his years peddling cocaine, but for the lack of originality of the lyrics on his latest CD.

Nelly- Turned into a punk. Wearing a bandaid on his face for his bro in jail... Earth to Nelly, if your bro is in jail the bandaid should be over your asshole instead.

The Game- Lyrics suck. Lyrics generic. If I wanted to listen to a drug dealer I would listen to 50.

G-Unit- No talent. My gerbil can rap better than them.

Lil Jon- I can scream YEEEEAH and OOOOHKAAAAY in that weird voice while holding a golden pimp goblet to. And I have more vocal talent than this idiot. I want my millions.

Elephant Men- Speak UNDERSTANDABLE English you jagoffs.

Ludacris- Had a few decent songs. Then went generic.

Fat Joe- Notorious BIG wannabe... Without the talent.

ICP- Insane Clown Posse. A group of punks who think they are hard because they have a devoted following of 1 million suburban rich kids following them.

Proof from D12- He sucks. His rhymes hitch. You can tell when someone else from the group is writing his lines for him because they don't suck.

Coolio- Didn't have the sense of humor to laugh when Weird Al did a parody of his only good song.

Midknight

09-18-2005, 12:14 AM

Ignore Game's commercial shit and check out his diss records of 50 cent Gio, it's a whole world of difference and you'd probably like the the guy, with the inventive insults he comes up with.

Pac greatest album to me, anyway, was when he went Machievilli (spelling prolly butchered) i enjoyed that album the best.

50 cent is a fake lil bitch, he's scared for his life with all the security.

You forgot Ja Rule, the punk of punks, goes from soft core rapping to singing, to hardcore to fight back against 50.

Lil John is a sore topic for me. I hate the bastard. He actually has a very intelligent sounding voice, and yet he threw away his education to scream bullshit lyrics every 3 seconds and screw up good songs.

Luda had style, then he slowed his rhymes down, and just spun off for no reason... Making a song with an AUSTIN POWERS THEME?

Fat Joe - You mean Big Pun wanna be I assume? Pun was were it was at "Dead in the middle of lil Italy, lil did we know we peddled to middle men who didn't do diddly"

Main reason why the small bit of rap I can stand nowadays, is usually underground stuff, before the artist feels they have to sell out.

Dark Syaoran

09-18-2005, 01:13 AM

All the old shit was good like Tupac, NWA, Ice Cube (When he broke away from NWA he still rocked), Easy E, Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg, ect. Some of the new stuff fucking irks me but there is some good shit like Fat Man Scoop is alright, Styles of Beyond (Only heard two songs but they fucking rock), Kanye West, ect.

I like Missy Elliot's video's and like two of her songs.

Midknight

09-18-2005, 01:19 AM

I still don't understand why everyone's on Kanye's jock, he's alright, but his big thing is going totally in the other direction of where everyone else is going with weird ass hooks and gimmicks in the song.

I can respect that, but I haven't been able to care much one way or the other about his stuff. Through the wire was hot, but then they played it to death and back

Dark Syaoran

09-18-2005, 01:23 AM

I dunno. His songs just catch my attention. I never really payed him much attention before thou. Only recently.

Redeye

09-18-2005, 03:56 PM

50 started off ok with Get rich or Die Tryin but after that he wasnt that hot anymore.
Eminem is one of the tightest rappers out.
D-12 is the shit Proof is the best one out of the whole group I mean he is the one who started the damn thing in the first place.
Obie Trice i have been listening to his album ever since it came out in 2003 and its still straight fire.
Lil jon on a rapper level isnt that great but his club bangers are pretty good.
Wu-Tang Clan is the shit. RIP to ODB that whole group could rhyme like no ones business.
Pac was probably the greatest rapper. My fav at least nuff said.
Biggie was ok i didnt like him as much as pac.
Dr. Dre is probably my fav producer and as a rapper hes ok his albums are usually pretty good.
there are some underground people around that are ok.
my fav rapper out right now is probably Nas.
Nas is amazing
Jay-Z i never really liked him much but he did have some good stuff like reasonable Doubt.
Busta Rhymes is amazing cant get enough of him.
Ludacris is pretty good dont care what ya'll say but his last album was tight.
The Game is the shit. The Documentary was a great album dont care what any of you say lol
Kanye West is ok both of his albums get kind of played out after a while but his beats are tight.
Common is amazing so is Talib Kweli Mos Def. Those three are some of the best rappers better than most of the bigger mainstream cats.
DJ Hi-Tek has some tight beats that he made for Talib Mos and Common.

Midknight

09-18-2005, 03:58 PM

common and mos def don't get any attention paid to them for some reason, but both of them are amazing

Dark Syaoran

09-18-2005, 11:55 PM

Yeah.

Busta Rhyme's! Forgot about him. He rocks.

Method Man and Redman as well. Those two are kickass and are funny pricks too in How High.

Giovanni

09-19-2005, 08:09 PM

You forgot Ja Rule, the punk of punks, goes from soft core rapping to singing, to hardcore to fight back against 50.

I didn't forget Ja Fool. I just don't count him as a person. Fuckin punk assed little bitch.

I have heard GAME's underground stuff. I still don't like him. His insults are creative, yes. But he is not. In fact the creative insults are just more proof that he is what I loath about the industry the most, a fuckin sell out. His album was so generic it was disturbing. I mean seriously.

Red Eye.

He had a fuckin song on that album called "Compton Compton." I thought he couldn't get anymore generic... Then I listened to it... AND IT GOT MORE FUCKING GENERIC!!! Seriously, you could switch out his name with that of any other no-talent local west coast rapper and get the same song.

Compton Compton ... Murderville?

Gimme a fuckin break, The Game is a shitty rapper who tries to act hard. If I wanted to listen to a drug dealer rap bad poetry to a half assed beat I would walk 10 mins into Northeast Philly and check out a club with an open mike night.

IndoGhost

09-19-2005, 08:27 PM

Midknight

09-19-2005, 08:48 PM

i never like game...something about him just pissed me off...everytime i looked at him. i kept thinking rat.

50 should be shot again just to make him stop singing.
ja..........umm.......

i just want to know is DMX back in the game cause he's good.
snoop need to go back to being death row snoop.
cassidy is sick.he's great.
fabolous is another good one.
lets not forget about the country rapper Bubba Sparxxx
there are more i just cant think of any right now

Cassidy is disgusting, that lil bastard can rhyme his ass off, I got alot of respect for him. I didn't like alot of his last album, but AM2PM, Crack, the intro, hustla, and several of his mixtape stuff are in my rotation.

DMX has fell off alot, it's like he went insane for some reason and lost alot of his talent. He shines the best now when guesting on other ppls stuff, but I can't get into anything he's done recently solo for some reason.

Fabo's nuts, I got him on a mp3 talking about Funk Flex's car show awhile back and it's insane.

I'm liking Jin's cd the more I listen to it, I figured the corny ass choruses were intended that way, listening to the interludes making fun of himself.

Speaking of half assed west coast rappers:

We can't forget about Guerilla Black. Compton was annoying as hell, with that dumbass Beanine man, who you STILL can't understand half the time, it was one of the worst song i'd heard in awhile. With a chorus this half ass how can you not respect their lack of skills!

Guerilla Black comes from Compton (Zaccka)
And Beanie Man is a Jamaican (Beeyaaa!)
Sending my message across the nation (Zo)
Cause I'm original Badman (C‘mon!)
Yo, I'm original Badman (Blaahh!)
And Guerilla Black comes from Compton
And Beanie Man is a Jamaican (Zo)
Cause we're original Badman

The guy's trying so hard to be Bigge, he needs to do conjugal visits with Lil Kim and go knock Faith up.

IndoGhost

09-19-2005, 08:59 PM

Midknight

09-19-2005, 09:06 PM

paul wall.....i can understand this guy, and i hate his song sittin sideways, so he's not looking good.

i Hate cam'ron. that guy just can't rap but he can nursery rhyme though.
i cant stand 2/3 off the southeren rappers.
big tymers are good.
timberland got hot beats

yeah wtf is up with timbaland?!?! He used to kick serious ass back in the day, then he went behind the scenes to do insane beats.. sadly they often contain annoying mouth sounds that piss me off, but now everytime he raps it just sounds forced?!?

Cam'ron.. ug. Horse and carriage. he went from killa Cam to that back to trying to be hardcore. That's almost as bad as Murder Mase becoming Puffy's bitch Ma$e, to a preacher, back to a rapper when the cash ran out.

D-block collectivley: Count ya Blessing.

Jae Hood: I don't associate with niggas that talk to cops/I'm on top'a my game like I'm standin on Xbox.

Thats hot.

IndoGhost

09-23-2005, 11:33 PM

oh my god i just remembered we forgot the cleanist rapper in the game...will smith....

Midknight

09-23-2005, 11:38 PM

oh my god i just remembered we forgot the cleanist rapper in the game...will smith....

I think I'd prefer we all forgot him. That guy is.. ug, I just can't stand the smug SOB.

Dark Syaoran

09-24-2005, 02:31 AM

I like his Welcome to Miami. I dunno why, I always have.

Giovanni

09-26-2005, 04:54 PM

IndoGhost

09-26-2005, 05:07 PM

so is cassidy

Midknight

09-26-2005, 08:21 PM

To be fair, Will Smith's first album was ok when it was first released...

Notice how I am not going to even try to defend the ones that followed it.

Had to do my part... He is from my hometown after all.

Summertime was the shit way back when, and Parents just dont understand I liked, but most of his stuff I've hated since then, it's all seemed too teeny pop for a man that was much too old at the time to sound like a 19 year old rapper

IndoGhost

10-03-2005, 06:05 PM

i ask you but one question....Why the hell are all these rappers singing? :evil: :x :evil: :?

Midknight

10-03-2005, 08:23 PM

i ask you but one question....Why the hell are all these rappers singing? :evil: :x :evil: :?

I'd like to know that as well, or they bring in some old ass R&B singer that doesn't match with the song's sound at all to do background chorus/singing.

Dark Syaoran

10-03-2005, 10:49 PM

Hahaha.

Another person I like is Twista thou some of his songs are weird. Damn that boy can rap fast. I swear, I dont understand how he doesnt trip out from that speed, lol.

Midknight

10-03-2005, 11:10 PM

Hahaha.

Another person I like is Twista thou some of his songs are weird. Damn that boy can rap fast. I swear, I dont understand how he doesnt trip out from that speed, lol.

I can't stand the guy. Yeah he can rap fast, but you catch him often making up words, or blending words together to make new shortened versions that make no sense until you see the lyrics sheet. He falls into the category for me of "Guys that have immense talent, but misuse it by being a gimmick rapper".

I've heard him rapping slow in freestyles and the guy is just sick. To me when he flys fast it just sounds too melodic for me to stand

Example:Raps very fast (Twist), or being a huge druggie(Snoop), or trying to screw everything in existance(several southern rappers), or trying to act as straight as possible, but acts so Queer he should have his own fashion show. (Diddy and Kanye) and then you get the I'm a real street thug who kills people on the daily (50 bitch)

Antivash

10-04-2005, 07:17 AM

eh... cann me stupid but i used to like twista way back in the day...

i doubt you can consider them rap, per say, but im into outkast as well... htere was also this old group, not sure if theyre still around anymore... Goodie Mob.. i liked like one song from the... they dont dance no mo' ...

Giovanni

10-04-2005, 08:33 AM

IndoGhost

10-04-2005, 08:34 AM

Southern rap annoys me... If I wanted to see someone try to hump everything in existance I would either A go to my school dances... Or B buy a horny male dog.

so true...so true

Midknight

10-04-2005, 07:54 PM

then you get the I'm a real street thug who kills people on the daily (50 bitch)

Well lets not forget about The GAYme and Ja Fool while we are on that subject.

Southern rap annoys me... If I wanted to see someone try to hump everything in existance I would either A go to my school dances... Or B buy a horny male dog.

I think Lil bitch.. er Jon, and the various retards he has with him screaming over a decent beat alone is enough for me to get to killing the idiots.

Did you know Jon's family is actually well off and he has a serious education, and talks, when he's out of character, like Carlton from the Fresh Prince? The guy's a fucking poser.

Giovanni

10-04-2005, 08:36 PM

They all are to some extent... Some more than others.

IndoGhost

10-04-2005, 11:25 PM

They all are to some extent... Some more than others.
whats sad is that some cops and FBI agents take them seriously...maybe in the old day with NWA and death row...btu now they dont do nothing but sit in the sun on their beach frount house.

Dark Syaoran

10-05-2005, 02:09 AM

Haha.

Gangster Rap was the shit too look out for back in the day.

Midknight

10-05-2005, 07:06 PM

They all are to some extent... Some more than others.

Thats true, but a black kid who grew up in a rough neighborhood, and has actually seen some of the stuff go down I can handle, even if he wasn't doing all the stuff he rhymes about, at least he's seen it.

A rich kid with an excellent education, and rich as shit parents, (neurosurgeons or something in Lil Jon's case from what I've read in the DJ Vlad the Butcher forums) posing as a hardcore, porn obsessed thug, has no right to be yelling out things... Then again, all the no talent fucker does is do what Dave Chapelle made fun of him for, *shrug* so I guess it's all good.

Overall I think, the days of gansta, where they really did do that crap, are over, we're left with a buncha kids that can rhyme fast and tight, then go home, and mix their own shit on a PC the built themselves, lol.

In other words, I don't thinks there's many real ones left sadly

Dark Syaoran

10-05-2005, 11:07 PM

All that gangsta shit died back in the late 90's. Maybe when Pac and Biggie died even.

IndoGhost

10-09-2005, 10:46 PM

really i thought it was on the year 2000 that they all died...right when ja rules new cd came out.

Giovanni

10-10-2005, 09:43 PM

True gangster rap is dead.

Now none of them want to start any serious beef because none of them want to wind up in a casket... Not when they can rap about as Eminem so eloquently put it in his song The Way I am, "blunts, 40's and bitches" and make the same millions.

Dark Syaoran

10-11-2005, 01:28 AM

What about that shit with Ja Fool and 50 Shit. That shit was horrible, lol. It was like a couple of kids having a go at fighting for the first time.

If it was the days of old, people would have been shot after the first week.

IndoGhost

10-11-2005, 05:12 PM

the worst moment in rap was when 50 and game were hugging each other...

Midknight

10-11-2005, 07:45 PM

the worst moment in rap was when 50 and game were hugging each other...

Nothing but bullshit to sell the record anyway from what I've heard.

Ah well, at least Game did come up with some inventive stuff, and 50 just took it like a bitch.

It is amusing to hear 50 tryin to call out Fat Joe and Jada... Jada would destroy him, most of Dblock has insane flow.

Maybe Ja Fool did get shot, god knows the bitch aint put out any R&B songs in a while heh

Antivash

10-11-2005, 07:51 PM

Maybe Ja Fool did get shot, god knows the bitch aint put out any R&B songs in a while heh

thank the gods for THAT small miracle!

Midknight

10-11-2005, 10:31 PM

aye. The whole thing wih them two was just funny as hell.

Ja is being a lil bitch singin and acting like he's gay so he can hang out with Ashy.. er Ashanti (read her interview with Maxim, she says it was an accident she got signed to Murder Inc, but she wasn't gonna turn a deal down, ROFL, even she didn't like the idiot).

50 being hard and actually having some good mixtape singles.. well n/m he pretty much only had " How to Rob" (which I liked and laughed my ass off listening to) then he flips and makes a ton of commercial shit and yells @ JA for being a sell out?

Ah well, Ja's disappeared and maybe next time 50 gets shot it won't be by Mr. Magoo.. I mean shit 9 shots and the guy ain't dead? WTF did they hit him with a pellet gun?

Dark Syaoran

10-12-2005, 03:04 AM

Shit shots, aye? He goes on about how he lived and 2 Pac didnt, lol. Watta fool.

Giovanni

10-12-2005, 11:06 AM

Ok guys here is the logical proof proving that current "rappers" are chumps.

Givens.
Generic Tracks = Garbage.

50 Cent = The Game
The Game = Generic
Therefore 50 Cent = Garbage.

If 50 Cent > Ja Fool/The Game < Jay Z < 'Pac, Biggie.

And Southern Rap < 50 Cent then

All modern rap is < or = to Jay Z... And Jay Z < 'Pac and Biggie.

Therefore 99% of recent rap = Garbage/Generic... The rest is just low quality.

Ok guys its over for gangster rap... Its been proved that they all suck.... By Logic no less.

Antivash

10-12-2005, 04:59 PM

ya know.. on chris rock's latest special/CD he says somethinh that makes since and explains WHY 50 didnt die....

only the good rappers are killed... like 'Pac, Biggie, and jam master jay

Midknight

10-12-2005, 09:00 PM

rofl whats the name of Rock's new stuff?

Antivash

10-12-2005, 09:51 PM

never scared I believe is the latest album he came out with.... ive got it no the HD so i can rar/zip it and...er... hack your computer and hide it there...

Midknight

10-12-2005, 10:18 PM

got it, ty

Dark Syaoran

10-13-2005, 02:39 AM

I heard Chris Rock say that once but he said "Only the good rappers ever die... Biggie died... 2 Pac died... Vinilla Ice still aliiiive!"

Antivash

10-13-2005, 05:30 AM

yeah.... thats the exact quote but i wasnt listening to it at the time ...so excuse my mistake.. ut its true... jam master jay joins those names as good rappers...

Dark Syaoran

10-14-2005, 05:39 AM

Yup. He's a funny prick aye.

Midknight

10-14-2005, 09:17 PM

Finally listened to it tonight, funny as hell, most of it true. A bit too much swearing for no reason, he's usually not that bad with it.

IndoGhost

10-28-2005, 06:54 PM

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=music&id=1510815

i just found this... a violinist and a rapper...
Miri Ben-Ari feat Styles P...

Midknight

10-30-2005, 05:12 PM

I'm liking Jada and the Mabo beat (Hey mambo, mambo italiano)

oot sounded stupid when I'd heard about it but its hot as shit, plus I like the the old italian commercial in the background, blame it on my family =P

And checking that link pisses me off you gave INdo, lol. Why the fuck do sites insit on using security hole riddled goddamned Internet Explorer _)(*@_(*@ Firefox or advant browser, fuck IE.

Hmm can't get it to open in IE either, get java errors

-Finally got it to work, I never knew this chick's name, but I've liked everything she's done, and shes just goddamned hot. I'd loose the poodle deal with her hair, straighten it out a bit, it does look alittle odd.

Shes hot as shit, smart, and hmm... damn lookit those shorts.

Redeye

10-30-2005, 09:34 PM

man jay-z sqaushin the beef with a shit load of people including NAS!
i wish i saw that shit.
if nas and jay made a album together it would be straight fire.
but for now i will settle for them featuring eachother on their albusm (cause we all know jay is gonna come back with another album one of these days.)

IndoGhost

10-30-2005, 09:52 PM

they both retired...i'm going to get the video of the concert when it comes out.

Midknight

10-30-2005, 10:24 PM

Didn't know he they called that over with, wasn't J still running off about Nas's ugly ass girl as recently as this year?

Something about a whore into a housewife or something

Giovanni

10-31-2005, 06:20 PM

Great we can have two of my least favorite rappers on an album together.

Jay-Z- Talented: Yes.
Do I like his music? No.

No reason really, his style just annoys me.

Nas: Talented: Yes.
Do I like his music? No.

I dislike him because he posthumously settled his disagreement with Tupac to make a quick buck.
Second reason I dislike him. Arrogant as hell, but pretends not to be.
Third reason. He only really raps about one thing, and rarely branches out, wasting the talent he was born with.

Midknight

10-31-2005, 09:18 PM

I've never liked anything Nas has put out in an album format, other then the diss Ether. Everything of his I liked is freestyle, or unground mixtapes generating hype before one of his albums

TheIllusiveOne

02-18-2006, 12:33 AM

Awwww, ya'll just don't know.

Nas-I gave you power= One of the greatest topical songs EVER.

And Nas really never had it in for Pac anyway, Pac hated him because he said he stole his style.

But as far as lyrics go, it's all about Copywrite

"I got a dick a girafee couldn't deep throat"

"I'm the Biggie in my city, get me? You can be Jigga second in line, so when I'm 'Ready to Die' you can be Bigga"

"Battle each cat for a 'brick' and have a new house when I'm done"

"Masterbate on a sun dial cause my time has cum"