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  1. blab
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    Stanari is just town. I said sometime earlier that I wouldn't be ok losing to her, but if she is scum, that tonality is impressive, the interactions are impressive, so I am taking that back. Also she has really picked up gamesolving. Fable is possibly scum, it's just Reg's wall doesn't convince me and I can't even vocalize my gut feelings about scum!Fable. Part of it is, that if it isn't scum!dC it has to be him and I also wanted to consider Regfan'S case, but it doesn't convince me and I...
    Post by: blab, Jun 29, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    What I am saying is, while I think caught for the wrong reasons is a tell, I am town and I got annoyed at waking up to dC's stuff, so there. ---------- Post automerged at 03:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:08 PM ---------- It's been raining all day, apparently enough to stop my underground tram from functioning, so I just had to walk home through the rain, I am annoyed, I am annoyed at this game, and it's probably not helping my tone any. My cousin decided for some irrational...
    Post by: blab, Jun 29, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    I am in a bar to watch Germany vs. Mexico, and the wlan is kind of shit/congested? I am not even sure what to respond to of dC's wall. I will say, for future considerations, town can get really annoyed at scumreads on them too. I cant even convince myself that Fable is scum and Sfanari is so town, so no, not going to be able to sell you on scum other than scum!dC. Guess that means I am ok with only winning against scum!dC. Fable, I did give recommondations for vigshot, it's in my D2...
    Post by: blab, Jun 29, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  4. blab
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    yeah, Reg was scummy but unaligned with basically everyone imo, and if Miner flipped town I would have tunneled into 4scum!Reg. ---------- Post automerged at 06:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:21 AM ---------- Hmm, I don't know what to think of dC, because on the one hand picking a player and than arguing for them to get lynched is definitely more like town trying to get to townwincondition than the flip-floping about earlier. I can definitely see the progression to dC scumreading...
    Post by: blab, Jun 29, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  5. blab
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    The second tree was posed at Reg, who had miner/blab unaligned. I proposed it, because it defeated every scumteam that Reg thought plausibe (except Fable/blab, which he felt ok losing to at that point) plus solo!Reg. It felt weird and scummy that Reg was fighting against the miner lynch, despite that. And Regfan then conveniently tinfoiling into the blab/Fable world after that interaction was double bad.
    Post by: blab, Jun 29, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  6. blab
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    Ok, I am slightly more awake and slightly less cranky now. I didn't campaign for my townbloc to be adopted, my argument was that getting 5 correct universally agreed upon locktowns might be an easier road to victory than correctly sniffing out scum. That feeling was of course because I had many townreads. I guess I can see how the townblock/lynchtree thing is scummy fyPOV, so I guess it's not wholly dumb reasons. I wrote the first lynchorder, because I really couldn't see a 2team not...
    Post by: blab, Jun 29, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  7. blab
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    Yeah, that's sort of it, actually. Itwas, yeah, huh, my townread on dC is sort of weak actually. Going to have to reread him before answering Reg.....maybe not, because I am lazy.
    Post by: blab, Jun 29, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  8. blab
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    This is like the opposite from what I did. I explicitly left out Reg+miner from my likely scumteams, I mentioned the Reg+miner unalignement, I said that Reg is unlikely in a 5 player team, which was my prime motivation for not lynching him that Day.
    Post by: blab, Jun 29, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  9. blab
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    I don't know what about my D5 is so hard to understand but to summerize: I came into D5 feeling good about everybody but miner and Regfan (though Stanari had low content). Furthermore felt miner and Reg were unaligned. I felt solo!scum!Reg was the likeliest scenario, but miner had less unalignments with the rest of the players and over the Day with Reg putting forward scum!dC and scum!Fable ideas this only increased. So I suggested to lynch miner first, despite FoSsing Reg. I reread...
    Post by: blab, Jun 29, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    I swear, do you time this? As in "it's the middle of the night in Germany, quick, let's fling shit at blab". Happened E0D5 too, with some of the same dumb reasons.
    Post by: blab, Jun 29, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  11. blab
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    It's not like I can't see Fable as scum, it's just if I trust my scum!fable feelings and then attempt to vocalize why I think Fable is scum over dC I pretty immediately talk myself out of scumreading Fable. I townread Stanari because of tone, because of the D2 interaction which I think comes from town, because she looks actually pretty good with regards to the interaction with the confirmed scums: Don't think miner jumps on the "fonti votes were scummy reasoning" and also then scumreads...
    Post by: blab, Jun 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Ok, I went through Regfan's analysis of Fable. The biggest points against scum!fable that I understand are: a) Fable interaction with Cobalt b) Fable progression of reads after Cobalt flip culminating in overconfidence in miner/dC a) first of all, I can't dock Fable for having an empty townread on Cobalt given that imo all (strongish) townreads on Cobalt were shallow. Sure I can see scum!Fable wanting to endgame with Cobalt and then bussing Cobalt once he felt like Cobalt was lost, and...
    Post by: blab, Jun 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Huh, maybe, probably true. Is that AI? Would have good reasons to be fatalistic as both scum and town. ---------- Post automerged at 06:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:39 PM ---------- probably more fatalistic as town, given as scum he has survived the Reg-dC situation yesterday and his winchances generally improved. Think this might be just a personality tell though?
    Post by: blab, Jun 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  14. blab
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    Fable hasn't pinged me as scum, but I was kind of distracted by how I didn't like dC. I just skimmed again, and maybe a bit too demonstrative but overall kinda ok? What do you think?
    Post by: blab, Jun 27, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    I think the coming out voting for Fable by dC is +scum. Like, he claimed he was unsure, but didn't use his vote to actually pressure Fable. Like, what does his vote do? But from a scumperspective, if he expected Fable to definitely want to lynch I think it makes sense that he wanted to preempt that. dC's hopping around in who he scumreads most is a bit to frantic to be natural to me, like he starts with the Fable vote and then #3566 leans blab, #3573 lean Stanari, #3580 back to blab....
    Post by: blab, Jun 27, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Ok, I know I said I would put in some work once home, but instead I spent like all the time on the phone. I did look at the Cobalt and miner iso's during that but my head wasn't really in it. Cobalt: Has not the biggest interactions with Fable/dC. The first thing is his wall, where he would have put scum!dc/miner/waco/Cobalt right next to each other, than corrected and included fonti between waco and the rest. Can see the Cobalt->Fable thing w/r/t "agressiveness" as W/W, but don't think...
    Post by: blab, Jun 27, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    I dunno Fable, because as scum I would try to mimic town!me. Think I would have been more accurate as scum D1 because I am usually accurate and probably wouldn't try out powerwolfing with a scumteam of Cobalt/Waco/zen/miner. Think probably wouldn't have been able to get the tonality right? Definitly wouldn't have abandoned the towncred for bussing Cobalt, though as scum I don't think I would have been able to attack Cobalt in that way. ---------- Post automerged at 12:22 PM ----------...
    Post by: blab, Jun 27, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Look, Stanari, assuming you're town you have played at least better than me so don"t fall into despair because if you do that, what's left for me?
    Post by: blab, Jun 27, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  19. blab
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    That was in response to stanari trying to make sure she has no responsibility and yes, fable, apparently
    Post by: blab, Jun 27, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    I dunno Stanari, are they? There are a couple things that pinged me, but that wasn't one of them.
    Post by: blab, Jun 27, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  21. blab
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    Hmm, I think I'll sheep stanari
    Post by: blab, Jun 27, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  22. blab
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    I am here on phone. You wanted some realtime interaction, Stan? ---------- Post automerged at 11:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:45 AM ---------- I am town, pretty sure Stanari is, too, Fable, the real question is, are you? Cause if I trust MY feelings it's dC over you but if it's you then it's pretty much my fault if we lose and I vote dC. ---------- Post automerged at 11:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:47 AM ---------- Thing is Reg has been wrong all game, true, but...
    Post by: blab, Jun 27, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  23. blab
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    Yeah, I am pretty sure Stanari is just town here. I think I am going to look at Waco/Zen/Cobalt/Miner interaction with dC/Fable over the day, and keep the longer Fable/dC iso's for when I am back home. ---------- Post automerged at 02:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:19 AM ---------- Might as well be elaborate while I have access to a keyboard: Waco: re: Fable Gets asked by Fable to explain his quiddity-villager read. Null Waco comments that he sees Zen's case on Fable, but doesn't...
    Post by: blab, Jun 27, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  24. blab
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    There is one earlier, with a converation with Fable that I townread him for
    Post by: blab, Jun 27, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  25. blab
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    Stanari: There is a readwall D1 from me, it's pretty embarrassing though. Will have some time to devote to this game later today. Right now, I feel like Stanari is probably town. The coward in me kinda wants to lynch Fable and blame Regfan if it's wrong.
    Post by: blab, Jun 27, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  26. blab
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    I just hope we get dope flavor.even if we no lynch.
    Post by: blab, Jun 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  27. blab
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    It's Stanari's choice here I think
    Post by: blab, Jun 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Reg right now percent dC/Fable fypov? 30/70?
    Post by: blab, Jun 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  29. blab
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    Stanari, how often do you.think you have said something like "I am confused/ not sure what to make of this" this game?
    Post by: blab, Jun 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  30. blab
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    Regfan: Fable has helped lynch scum, has defended townies, not taken avenues that would help his wincon if he is scum (Reg/pie, pie over cobalt), I can see his positions, I think he is unaligned with zen, I don't think he talks me out of all 3 townreads on scummates,
    Post by: blab, Jun 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  31. blab
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    Look, I am like 74.5472% asleep. I can't take the insanity
    Post by: blab, Jun 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Regfan: Uh, some of your Fable case was convincing, it's just, half of it was things that indicated town!Fable. I can see Cobalt's aggressiveness thing coming from W/W for example.
    Post by: blab, Jun 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Regfan: I was interested in your Fable case, it's just that I feel a lot better about him than you, so unless it was really convincing, it wouldn't change my priorities, and if you tried to make a slam-dumk case, which I felt wasn't there, I would have suspected you even more.
    Post by: blab, Jun 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  34. blab
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    I dunno, Fable, but if this is scum!dC's AtE he is hitting all my buttons
    Post by: blab, Jun 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    I am here.
    Post by: blab, Jun 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  36. blab
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    Looked at the NK's just so nobody can say "nobody is doing NK analysis", but I think it's not a strong argument either way. Jan, Kai maybe slightly more likely Reg, Acio maybe slightly more likely dC? Not really productive speculating there, imo. ---------- Post automerged at 10:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:10 AM ---------- Ok, I am going to be unavailable soon for like 5 hours. Then I am going home and fall into bed immediatly, because I am behind on sleep anyway, but I think...
    Post by: blab, Jun 25, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  37. blab
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    Maybe from a game-valuation perspective, but not from a blab-RL perspective.
    Post by: blab, Jun 25, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  38. blab
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    Regfan: re: 2056->2060 Thinl dC''s post is ok. I think miner was going for something like "Look at how unconcerned I am about pressure". I can see that as distancing->reaction to distancing, but also as town->scum so not really AI, imo. ---------- Post automerged at 08:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:40 AM ---------- I am against a no-lynch, the game is already kind of dragging along.
    Post by: blab, Jun 25, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Not seeing dC's plan here if he's scum. I mean, if he is going for the "not fighting against a reg/dC POE" towncred, then sure, he gets a bit towncred but where does that leave his chances to win? If his thinking is like "Eh, I'll lose, but at least I want to achieve the Reg mislynch", then shrug, ok. Reg is doing more for scum!dC by opening "Reg, then Fable", than dC is.
    Post by: blab, Jun 25, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    On a surface level Reg is opening Fable/dC mislynches here, but from a scum!Reg perspective surely dc/me mislynches is the path of least resistance. Granted, that would not follow as organically from his reads yesterday, but it still feels like trying to mislynch Fable would be playing hardmode for the sake of it. Regfan If you want me to even consider scum!Fable then you need to sell me that the Zen/Fable stuff D1 (from Fable critisizing Zen for putting dC as his third lowest, to Zen''s...
    Post by: blab, Jun 24, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Yeah, that also looks like it could come from scum. Still think Regfan focusing on townreads for D1 and townreading either all his scummates or townreading all 5 scum looks a bit worse. Like his focus on presenting his townreads constantly makes more sense from a powerwolf perspective, who wants to force townreads on his scumbuddies by sheer thread-presence. If Reg is town, he townread all 5 wolfes, I can believe bad reads (mine were pretty bad) but that's something where I lean that there...
    Post by: blab, Jun 23, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Morning, I just want to say that it was kind of heartwarming to wake up yesterday and see basically all the conf!town going "no, we're not lynching blab, we're lynching miner" while Reg/dC really tried to make it happen. Kinda wish whoever of Reg/dC is town had an aha moment when it was like: Blab(3) Reg, dC, miner Miner(5) Blab, Vaimes, Pienyan, Fable, Stanari but whatever. Sort of buy dC's opening post because of that but if he is scum he had the whole night to craft it so, eh. I will say...
    Post by: blab, Jun 23, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Miner [3]: Blab, Pienyan, Vaimes. Blab [2]: Reg, DC. DC [1]: Fable. Reg [1]: Miner. Not Voting [1]: Stanari. I can't justify staying up all night for this, so in case I get lynched: Shockingly you will be exactly where I am toDay, in that any probable scumteam of 2 includes miner. Lynch him, if he flips town and the game goes on lynch Regfan. If he flips scum, and we haven't won, you're probably going to decide between dC and Regfan, I lean dC right now, but you'll have more...
    Post by: blab, Jun 21, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    I mean they are can eat meat if they have the opportunity.
    Post by: blab, Jun 21, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    I swear, Regfan, are you just misunderstanding or misrepresenting me? I came into this dayphase thinking 5 scum (with daychat) was too much and with only 2 scumreads (miner, Regfan). Furthermore miner<->Regfan is probably not a thing (well it might be a thing now from Regfan->miner with the way Regfan is pushing against the miner-lynch toDay, despite it resolving his reads same as any other lynch, but what is miner doing since basically D2? Only distancing from Reg?) So yeah I consider 4...
    Post by: blab, Jun 21, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    I dunno, I am confident that Fable, Vaimes, pienyan, Stanari are town, confident Reg/dC is not a thing, and slighty less confident, but still pretty ok that Reg/Miner is not a thing. That resolves to a townwin even with mislynching me somewhere in there. Lynch Miner ---------- Post automerged at 05:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:52 PM ---------- Regfan: I want you to estimate the chances we win if: Lynch Miner=>town=>Lynch blab=>town=>Lynch Regfan...
    Post by: blab, Jun 20, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Ok, I just read Jurassic Park Adventure QT(well more like skimmed Macho and Pozzai'S post and read your, Reg) What exactly was supposed to be my takeaway that makes Regfan/Cobalt/Waco/Zen impossible?
    Post by: blab, Jun 20, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Regfan beyond everything that makes me think Fable is town there is also this against miner/Fable "Please stop townreading all my scummates, except the scummate you are not scumreading, please townread that guy" ---------- Post automerged at 01:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:54 PM ---------- Ok, I have reread Stanari and she is just town, there is nothing that makes a miner+Stanari team especially unlikely, think how Stanari approaches Regfan lately makes Regfan-Stanari...
    Post by: blab, Jun 20, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    I have a few minutes right now, but I have to pull triple Tutor duty today because a couple colleagues got food poisoning on Mallorca this last weekend (that's at least what they wrote me :/) Fable: look at the pienyan/Cobalt/Waco interaction at the very beginning of the game where Waco claims pienyans read of Cobalt is a scum looking for a mislynch. Screams pienyan/Waco/Cobalt is town/scum/scum imo. Regfan: I have more reasons to townread Fable, so miner/dC, I guess. ----------...
    Post by: blab, Jun 20, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Regfan I'll write something with quotes out about dC once I'll get home and on the PC. Just, my townread on dC comes mostly from checking stuff earlier in the game (same with pienyan). dC has actually not made much of an impression on me the last 2 phases, but that's probably because I was so busy. Want me to look at dC latergame, or explain my read, or both? And to clarify my scumreads, I consider the following worlds likely: Regfan Miner Miner+x and I'm wrong about one player Regfan...
    Post by: blab, Jun 19, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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