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  1. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Rock solid job by Rubicon and especially Delphine on a very well-earned victory (on a site that I believe has a generally townsided meta too!). Game was enjoyable for me, if a bit frustrating at points for obvious reasons. :p Really like a few people's playstyles here and I think I'll join a couple more games here and there if you'll have me. --- Post automerged --- Also really enjoyed the flavor, thanks for hosting Viira!
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 29, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Rubi completely silent since my legacy post.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Time to put some popcorn in the microwave. Best of luck, guys.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    My dying wish is that somebody actually reads my legacy post and takes it into account kthx. Hopefully that "kthx" doesn't push the limits.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Doubt it, but I'm always willing to be pleasantly surprised.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Fable is I think just town from a couple of things, including the AtE, despite what I said about the "following the script" in the legacy post. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and that's twice he'll have gotten me. But I don't think I'm wrong.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Personal POE is Miner/Rubi > Rubi/Miner > Asmo > Fable > Beru > Delphine. In order. Let's make it Miner over Rubi.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I went into antispew in my second most recent scum game here, but the circumstances were a bit different as I subbed in, was never really ever able to get caught up, and my slot was pretty heavily POE'd from the word go. Does this do anything for you? --- Post automerged --- I won't be the one starting it, but will join it if it happens for obvious reasons.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Asmo, what specifically were you looking for here and what were you planning to do with it? Everyone else: If Asmo doesn't answer this, ask him about it tomorrow. --- Post automerged --- Vote: Rubicon
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    @Newcomb this one's for you buddy. --------- With everybody currently voting for me aside from Rubicon (who is voting me in spirit) and myself, I'd like to take my remaining time and analyze the reasons everybody's given for voting me, as well as their reads in general. We'll see which ones of these pass the smell test and which require further study from whoever doesn't get nightkilled to delve into. Delphine: "GH is just a wolf, kill him." Out of all of the alive players in this game,...
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  11. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Most recent one: Under the Fuchs account.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Do NOT lynch me before then. I mean, don't lynch me at all, but DEFINITELY don't lynch me before I have my say.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Will work on a legacy post and try to get it out before EOD.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  14. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Are you kidding me? The fact that you had this exact reaction to that part of my post is tilting me so hard. Why do I have to automatically scumread any case presented against me? Other responses are coming but good lord.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I'll get to everything else but wanted to briefly touch on this first: Don't try to get other people to make your arguments for you. If you have a reason to scumread me for that, say it yourself. --- Post automerged --- Alright, let's get cracking. Now I'm having fun. Rubi: No. Again, most of your scummy actions have been in relation to people I've independently wolfread - first Fluff, and then Miner. As I've already worked out in my previous wall, your actions at EOD2 make a lot less...
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I don't care about "looking town", I care about being right. If Miner flips wolf that's one wolf down and a good lead to the second. If Miner flips town it resolves you and locks down my POE. --- Post automerged --- Like, what even is that advice? --- Post automerged --- Also Rubi if you want me to stop conditionally scumreading you then you need to stop doing questionable stuff.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 21, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Yeah, but. He could have just "not been around". Rubi was doing more than the bare minimum IMO if the wagons were v/v/v.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 21, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Vote: Miner I get what you're saying Beru, but if Fluff/Miner (and me obviously) are all town then does Rubicon need to do what he does at EOD2 if he's a wolf? That question's only semi-rhetorical btw, would like to know if it's in his range to fake that kind of engagement with a CFD bearing down on him. I also think wolves, in the case of v/v/v wagons, are fine with a mislynch happening there simply because the POE stays incorrect for a longer period of time. --- Post automerged ---...
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 21, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Since a couple of people keep asking about it, here's my Rubi/Fluff summary from earlier: When I iso'd Rubi early on D2, his posts generally passed the smell test aside from a few questionable moments with Fluff. Since that was my only point of question with Rubi, I zeroed in on the two likeliest explanations from my POV, in no particular order: - Rubicon is partners with Fluff and that's the exact team - Rubicon is just town and it was just A Random Weird Thing, and Fluff was also town....
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 21, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    None of Delphine's links work for me, I'm guessing because we're set at different posts per page (I'm at 50). So I'll just talk about her wall in general. There's a lot of good things to like in this, I specifically really enjoy her trying to get in my mindset re: "doing my best Eido impression" - it's probably closer to Newcomb, minus the actual success, but if that entire section of her wall is coming from a wolf, it's very well done and my hat's off to her. Delphine's out of my POE. The...
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 21, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Asmo: At what specific point did I reach the top/bottom/bad side/etc of your personal POE? Extra credit: Give me a different answer besides Fluff's flip. --- Post automerged --- Why did you specifically say this to Fluff after he popped in right at EOD2?
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 21, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Nevermind, I see the clarification further down. Still though.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 20, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Asmo, if you really think Fable/I are the exact team, there isn't a remaining wolf between Rubi/Miner. --- Post automerged --- In general I don't put any stock into people telling us they're out of their scumranges, been burned too many times by it in the past for it to matter. I will place the smallest amount of credence in it coming from other people, but not the people in question themselves.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 20, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  24. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Just Rubi. Asmo and you are fine independent of Fluff.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 20, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    1) Easy, I thought there was a good chance of my death via lynching. 2) General paranoia more than anything else, Fable is a very very good wolf from my experience and it's a matter of you/Beru/Rubi conditionally (which has been fulfilled considering Fluff's flip) being higher up my town list than him.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 20, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    If I die gg guys, it's been fun, will try to stick around and be better next game. But first let's kill Fluff
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Vote: Fluff
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Fluff first. Rubicon if Fluff is mafia. Miner if Fluff is town. Fable if they're both town.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    The thought process is there and laid out. I'm not going to fish for an old post of mine with 8 minutes to go.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Sigh. Vote: Miner You guys had better terminate Fluff with extreme prejudice next.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  31. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Go iso me, it's early ish this day phase. Flitting back and forth between desktop and mobile. But I don't want to get back on topic. I want you to come out and say one way or the other what you believe w/r/t Fluff and I being partners. Commit to a position, put yourself on the record on this issue right now. Please.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    You're going to have to take this one on faith, but I'm a lot more protective of my partner if there's only two of us total.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Look, I may be a lot of things, but I'm not an asshole who distances/busses his ONE partner right out of the gate in my first time on a new forum.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  34. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I'll explain it in 30 seconds. We've been at each other's throats pretty much from the word go.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    This can't be a real thought. I'm *never* aligned with Fluff.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  36. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I'm 99% sure I already explained my thoughts on Rubicon/Fluff, but here they are again summed up: Fluff does not look good, period, and the fact that he might be allowed to live given his content is reprehensible. Rubicon looks generally good except for when it pertains to Fluff, there was stuff I pointed out earlier, if I die then go look for it. Therefore my preference today would be to lynch Fluff. I think he has a good chance of flipping as mafia in a vacuum anyway, and if he does...
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Okay, I really hate talking about self-meta but winning the game comes first. --- As you all know, this is my first game on DLP (hi I'm GH and I'm a mafia degenerate. "Hi GH!"). There's a few things I've known about this site before I joined and I tried to personally adjust my meta in order to what I thought would fit in better here. Not sure if this has gone to plan. First and all, far and away the most contact I've had with DLPers is, in order, Newcomb and Eido. Nobody else remotely...
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  38. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I'm here, skimming back.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  39. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I've been completely swamped at work today and will be able to enter the thread with around an hour before EOD.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  40. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Emphasis mine. This is the perceived mindset slip that Delphine picked up on and Beru acknowledged (and didn't even really reference it in her big case). I, uh, don't see how Miner's plan is ever worded like it is if he's town here. Like, "I intentionally did things that the people who know me would not townread me for but I also included legitimate pushes that people could perceive as TOWNSIDING" is, to put it generously, ????? The first part of the quote I bolded requires a bit of...
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  41. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Back on a PC and the splitting headache I've had for the past 4 hours has finally calmed down, so huzzah! Anyway, my reads haven't particularly changed much in the past day. Beru is still town, Jan's case on me is something I can easily see, nobody else has really slid up or down the scale. Except Miner. Need to think through his "slip", back shortly.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 18, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Eh, still feel uncomfortable with it on principle. Would prefer to save for postgame. Maybe late tomorrow when I'm back on desktop.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 16, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Delphine: In general no, still not yet. I don't want to turn this thread into a "GH details the intricate points of exactly what he does and does not find comforting about this specific new environment" so I'm not going to go further than that. I hope you understand. In general I don't get in voting trouble until the late game, if at all, regardless of alignment. And I haven't really seriously re-evaluated you since the start of D2 and I'm not going to force something just because...
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 16, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Since my Fluff vote is kind of buried, I'll re-emphasize: Vote: Fluff
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 16, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I'm not really v reading you actually, I just don't want to deal with you today. Subtle difference maybe but there it is. Does this change your view of me? --- Post automerged --- Vote: Fluff Quotes coming. --- Post automerged --- In general with Fluff I'm just seeing a lot of Level 1 play. Not necessarily wolfy in itself but it starts to add up/other people just look better than him/I'd also like to get a two-for-one with Rubicon if possible. This does absolutely nothing for me, there...
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 16, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Why you specifically? Anybody else that he zeroes in on when town? --- Post automerged --- Are you drawing any conclusions from these reactions? --- Post automerged --- In general I believe Rubicon's behavior has been townie, with the one exception when it comes to Fluff. If Fluff is mafia, then I see potential for the two of them to be partners. If Fluff is town then it nullifies most of my question marks to Rubi and Rubicon's probably just doing his own thing. --- Post automerged ---...
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 16, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  47. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I did, actually. Interestingly enough it's what I found and presented to Fonti that Delphine commented on from the first exchange. Will get it in a sec. --- Post automerged --- Here it is Asmo.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 16, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  48. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Two things: First of all, timing. Her iso early on does spread out a bit more before she kind of zeroes in on me as D1 progresses at the expense of the rest of the thread. Secondly, her push on me itself, while coming to an incorrect conclusion, passes the smell test in that I believe that she believes what she's saying w/r/t me especially after I challenged her on a point or two and she didn't back down.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 16, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  49. GeneralHankerchief
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Alright, well, seeing as how she hasn't posted yet today, my opinion on her hasn't changed from the legacy post I did yesterday. To abbreviate, the tone of her posts have been fine but the scope of them have been limited, focusing on one person who is a villager (me) as opposed to, from my eyes, trying to get a more holistic view of the game.
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 16, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Hadn't started responding, but is there any reason for me to *not* give you a quick take on her anyway?
    Post by: GeneralHankerchief, Sep 16, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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