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Old 06-19-2017, 12:23 PM   #1521
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Except that everyone is labelling it terrorism, including the Government and the police from what I've seen...
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Old 06-19-2017, 01:22 PM   #1522
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The red tops took a while to do it, I think. Not a surprise, really.

Update on the Grenfell fire: 79 dead or missing, presumed dead as of this afternoon. Probably won't be the last revision either.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:39 PM   #1523
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There's been another terrorist attack in London, this time a white male who drove his van repeatedly into worshippers as they were leaving the mosque after nightly ramadan prayers:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40322960

Surprised there wasn't a post already here about it. Less surprised that every mention of it in the media has "terrorist attack" in quotes and that 'the arrested man would be "subject of a mental health assessment in due course".'

Can't wait for the attacker to be declared mentally ill and for this to get swept under the rug. Because remember folks, when terrorism happens in your capital city, it's only terrorism if the attackers are brown.
Don't take the Sun/Daily Mail as the voice of the nation.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:50 PM   #1524
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Except that everyone is labelling it terrorism, including the Government and the police from what I've seen...
They are now, they weren't as of the time of my original post.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:56 PM   #1525
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They are now, they weren't as of the time of my original post.
I can vouch that this is not true. May first pronouncement about it was saying they were treating as very likely/possibly to be terrorism. Since the first news came out, BBC told that.

Look TMD, I know you have good reasons for this chip on your shoulder, Tower of London sized or not, buuut lashing out and talking in extremes like this will just make people annoyed at you. And specially when you jump the gun.
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Old 06-19-2017, 05:01 PM   #1526
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I can vouch that this is not true. May first pronouncement about it was saying they were treating as very likely/possibly to be terrorism. Since the first news came out, BBC told that.

Look TMD, I know you have good reasons for this chip on your shoulder, Tower of London sized or not, buuut lashing out and talking in extremes like this will just make people annoyed at you. And specially when you jump the gun.
Chill out man, there's precedent for why he is saying what he is. I was genuinely surprised to see the media and gov outlets start calling it terrorism.

And I was keeping an eye on it, it took a while before they all started calling it terrorism. Fox News was the first to call it as such that I saw.
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Old 06-19-2017, 05:38 PM   #1527
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Chill out man, there's precedent for why he is saying what he is. I was genuinely surprised to see the media and gov outlets start calling it terrorism.

And I was keeping an eye on it, it took a while before they all started calling it terrorism. Fox News was the first to call it as such that I saw.
Innomine. Literally, why are you quoting me? I am very chill. My message is just in that way. This has nothing to do with you and I acknowledged his point. Me and TMD agreed on such things in the past, specially regarding Israel. He knows I meant in Goodwill, and because i do jump the gun and post hotheaded to often.
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I get your point @Invictus, and obviously you're correct - now that everyone from the PM to the Police are openly calling it terrorism it looks like my original post was short-sighted.

My original point and my frustration at the time however was due to the contrast between this attack and the one for example at London Bridge. The latter seemed to be labelled a terrorist attack almost instantly, whereas this one took place around midnight last night - and around 10 hours later major media outlets were still using "terrorist attack" in quotation marks. I went back and had a look at on-the-night coverage of LB and that wasn't the case then.

Anyway its a small irrelevant thing that doesn't make a difference now, and which shouldn't detract from more productive discussion about the attack itself. Clearly this attack was far more brazen and severe than the typical EDL islamophobic hate crime. Do people think this is likely to indicate further such attacks from nationalist-type extremists?
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:31 PM   #1529
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I get your point @Invictus, and obviously you're correct - now that everyone from the PM to the Police are openly calling it terrorism it looks like my original post was short-sighted.

My original point and my frustration at the time however was due to the contrast between this attack and the one for example at London Bridge. The latter seemed to be labelled a terrorist attack almost instantly, whereas this one took place around midnight last night - and around 10 hours later major media outlets were still using "terrorist attack" in quotation marks. I went back and had a look at on-the-night coverage of LB and that wasn't the case then.

Anyway its a small irrelevant thing that doesn't make a difference now, and which shouldn't detract from more productive discussion about the attack itself. Clearly this attack was far more brazen and severe than the typical EDL islamophobic hate crime. Do people think this is likely to indicate further such attacks from nationalist-type extremists?
Oh I get you. The Quebéc attack made it very clear. At least no one is saying that 'the muslims shouldn't be surprised they're being attacked because what they let their peers do'? Thank God the small miracles?
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Someone stole a mummified toe. I'm bemused and curious what the thief plans to do with it.

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It could be worse. The last toe was swallowed. On purpose. He paid the 500$ fine right after.
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