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Old 09-16-2012, 08:52 PM   #81
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Multiculturalism is entirely realistic--as long as you're liberal.
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:54 PM   #82
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Multiculturalism is entirely realistic--as long as you're liberal.
Pretty quick change from interesting excerpt to stupid joke. A slow clap for you, Vir.

All joking aside, this is a horrible tragedy I've been closely following since it initially came out. One thing that stood out for me, was a picture I'm linking below. The story I read on it reported that Libyans tried to pull Christopher Stevens out of his car after the attack in an attempt to save him, but a mere peripheral glance at it made me seethe.

I incorrectly thought it was Libyans attacking Christopher Stevens after the attack, and it made me realize that if the director/producers of the film wanted people to get angry at Islam, in a way they succeeded. Because it might even have just been subconscious, but I think a lot of people will feel that initial knee-jerk when seeing the picture.

Link (NSFW, a bit graphic, and all together horrifying. click at your own risk): http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/u...s-image-1.jpeg


Article in question: http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-i...bassy-graphic/
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:20 AM   #83
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Here's the thoughts of one of the actresses in the movie on what's been happening, courtesy of Neil Gaiman.
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:44 PM   #84
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Pretty quick change from interesting excerpt to stupid joke. A slow clap for you, Vir.

Yeah, I wasn't joking. I meant liberalism in the fukuyama-esc notion of liberalism. Not the "I'm a liberal, you're a conservative" kind of way. I mean the "the West is a liberal civilization and we value things like equal rights and equal protections under the law" that's a core teaching of liberal institutions.

Liberal ideologies cannot stand non-liberal ideologies. It's part of the reason we found communism and fascism so repulsive, and waged war and economic war against them.
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Yeah, I wasn't joking. I meant liberalism in the fukuyama-esc notion of liberalism.
eh, I completely missed the ball there, on what you were trying to say. Sorry, hopefully I didn't piss you off with the throwaway joke.
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eh, I completely missed the ball there, on what you were trying to say. Sorry, hopefully I didn't piss you off with the throwaway joke.
No worries. No pissed off happening. I should have been more clear.
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From the reddit frontpage.

This guy is actually pretty popular in the muslim community in the US.
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