A Song of Ice and Fire stories

[Jarik]

And what is a fully grown (well...) man going to insult an 11 year old kid with? And it's Tyrion. He's bringing up what he believes are true assessments of Harry's character - assessments he knows Harry will not like. He knows that will impact Harry more than throwing childish taunts or threats. Plus it's probably easier to self justify if he's at least pretending to be under the guise of educating Harry even if that's not really what's happening.

Whenever I managed to get my parents pissed off enough at me, their response looked something like Tyrion's. They'd take their anger out in the form of some faux education. They would basically raise issues they had before, but instead of a rational discussion, they would basically just rip into me with very little justification, illogical arguments and refuse to allow me to respond.

[JoJo23]

I kind of got a really kindly interpretation of what Tyrion was doing there.

As he sees it, Harry is like 9 and far too naive. He wrries that Tywin will utterly break him by doing the same kind of crazy shit he did to Tyrion with Tysha due to Harry having smallfolk freinds and was trying to prepare him. With a hint of bitterness about Casterly Rock of course.

My main problem with the scene was his telling Harry all about Tysha, either he feels really close to Harry, or that was kind of weird of him to say. Tyrion was at least as secretive about that as Jaime was about his reasons for killing the king imo.

That said I really love your work here. Its probobly my favourite ASOIF fic right now, and that has nothing to do with the corssover elements.

[Clerith]

I'm seeing much conflict in the future. Harry and his morals really don't belong to Westeros. I have to say, I agree more with Tyrion than Harry - he's being way too naive. Well, he is a special child snowflake, but still. It's probably going to be a constant struggle for him. Either he grows up and jaded and conforms to the standard noble view, which is what I actually would prefer, or he becomes some revolutionary equality Jesus, which is where this is heading right now. Smallfolk really are small in Westeros. I don't think they're ready for equality just yet.

Still, a damn interesting and well written fic.

[Celestin]

Originally Posted by Clerith

I'm seeing much conflict in the future. Harry and his morals really don't belong to Westeros. I have to say, I agree more with Tyrion than Harry - he's being way too naive. Well, he is a special child snowflake, but still. It's probably going to be a constant struggle for him. Either he grows up and jaded and conforms to the standard noble view, which is what I actually would prefer, or he becomes some revolutionary equality Jesus, which is where this is heading right now. Smallfolk really are small in Westeros. I don't think they're ready for equality just yet.

I wouldn't call him naive. Saying that suggest that what the things that he dreams about are impossible, but that's not true. He knows that they are possible because he saw it in his past life. That the society, while not perfect, can be much better and fairer for everyone.

And I think Harry can see that the change will not happen overnight, but it will never happen if someone doesn't start it. The question is how far he can push things now and what he should leave for the next generations.

[sunkarapk]

If Harry remembers his previous life, why is he not more wiser? And why is he acting like a kid blushing just because some whore has a low neckline?

I do hope Harry takes Aeryn to Lannisport. It would be interesting to see Tywin's reaction. And meanwhile Joffrey killing the remaining Nameless would be a nice conflict.

[gullibleoats]

I don't think he's really Harry Potter. He's Harry Baratheon, a kid who inherited what I think amounts to an encyclopedia and a search engine. I don't think he's going to be exactly like Harry, he'll just have access to some skills and memories, but otherwise it gets pretty vague.

[Cxjenious]

Originally Posted by sunkarapk

And meanwhile Joffrey killing the remaining Nameless would be a nice conflict.

Wow dude, that's so mean.

[White Rabbit]

Is it really that bad to be better than most everyone else? Sure birth to a wealthy family provides better opportunities, but it's what you do with those opportunities and circumstances are what make you better. I know plenty of people born to wealth and they turned into pieces of shit that make me mad that I have to breathe the same air as them. And I've known others that fought for everything they have, the ones working full time jobs and putting themselves through college with children they support.

Harry was born into the royal family; prosperity and education and training are available to him. He excels at them. He is clearly better than others if you measure people out by their skills and knowledge and assets. He's more fit to rule than a day laborer because of his status.

He is in a position of power. Whether he chooses to abuse his station in life, or wants to rule fairly is his choice. The commoners pay for protection. They pay for those who govern to put wrongs to right. Few will rise above the station they were born in. It's his duty to provide them those things.

[Cxjenious]

Originally Posted by White Rabbit

He is in a position of power. Whether he chooses to abuse his station in life, or wants to rule fairly is his choice. The commoners pay for protection. They pay for those who govern to put wrongs to right. Few will rise above the station they were born in. It's his duty to provide them those things.

And that's what he has to realize.

[Erandil]

Originally Posted by gullibleoats

I don't think he's really Harry Potter. He's Harry Baratheon, a kid who inherited what I think amounts to an encyclopedia and a search engine. I don't think he's going to be exactly like Harry, he'll just have access to some skills and memories, but otherwise it gets pretty vague.

That. And you could probably also come up with a pretty biological/neurological idea for his behavior.

I don´t hold much hope for him changing the world, both it and the societies it contains are just too different , even his memories aren´t that helpful.

[sunkarapk]

Then, its basically an older Tommen but named Harry. Its not really a crossover in that case.