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Old Yesterday, 01:00 PM   #481
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Can't agree with that.
Name 5 things from fanon that are good.
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Old Yesterday, 01:03 PM   #482
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1-5. Teh Daphnez*


*Not that fanon was capable of putting a good idea into practice, mind. But the idea that Harry would totez bang a hawt Slytherin is something we must acknowledge of the fanon hivemind.
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Old Yesterday, 01:31 PM   #483
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@vlad

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. See, being a Power Ranger implies you actually have Power. Without it, you're just a plain old ranger (and they aren't all that competent, especially when it comes to protecting picnic baskets from bears).

What I mean is, Daphne isn't exactly fanon as much as she's a completely original character just with a canonical name. From my understanding fanon things have at least some connection to canon, but there's literally nothing about Daphne in the books. Everything we have is just her name and that she's Astoria's sister. That's it. Everything else is purely invented by ff writers. That's not exactly fanon, but rather OC.
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Old Yesterday, 01:43 PM   #484
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Name 5 things from fanon that are good.
If you or I ever get around to knowing every single piece of fanon then you can argue one way or the other. As it stands it's unlikely that you have such knowledge.
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Name 5 things from fanon that are good.
If you want five fanon things that were also implemented right, that would just come down to fanfic recs. If you want good ideas, regardless of representation, that's not as counter-intuitive as it might seem.

1. Wards (they make sense to me; protective enchantments by another name)

2. Notice-me-not spell (yeah, I'm one of those who totally thought it was canon, my justification being the Leaky Cauldron)

3. Indy Harry (again, regardless of representation, I find the idea of Harry... well, gaining more independence compared to canon to be a worthy concept. If you want an example, off the top of my head, Renegade Cause)

4. Dark Harry (I think it's a compelling trope)

5. Making DE compelling antagonists (because they weren't in canon, imo)
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Name 5 things from fanon that are good.
* Wand Holsters

* Aurors using back-up wands

* Runes being used for enchanting things (permanently)

* Merlin being active long before Hogwarts was founded

* The ICW functioning like the United Nations- they don't send in troops unless asked, and are more likely to sanction a troubled nation than interfere
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1. Wards (they make sense to me; protective enchantments by another name)

2. Notice-me-not spell (yeah, I'm one of those who totally thought it was canon, my justification being the Leaky Cauldron)

3. Indy Harry (again, regardless of representation, I find the idea of Harry... well, gaining more independence compared to canon to be a worthy concept. If you want an example, off the top of my head, Renegade Cause)

4. Dark Harry (I think it's a compelling trope)

5. Making DE compelling antagonists (because they weren't in canon, imo)
1. That's basically the same thing only with a different name? I know the word Wards is used a lot in fanfiction, but isn't it basically the same as canon's protective enchantments? I mean, I could be wrong, of course.

2. I actually hate the Notice-Me-Not spell. Because it makes the Fidelius entirely unnecessary.

3. Ah, Indy Harry is a genre I've never seen appeal in. I just don't find it interesting. Most of the time Harry is a complete self-important asshole. A lot of times the concept is also combined with Evul Dumbles which further drove me away from it.

4. Now, Dark Harry I can agree is an interesting idea. If done well, I dig it. So, you got me there.

5. Same as above, though I'd argue that making Death Eaters interesting characters is just good writing instead of being a fanon invention. But then again that'd be splitting hairs.

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* Wand Holsters

* Aurors using back-up wands

* Runes being used for enchanting things (permanently)

* Merlin being active long before Hogwarts was founded

* The ICW functioning like the United Nations- they don't send in troops unless asked, and are more likely to sanction a troubled nation than interfere
Okay, wand holsters and Aurors using back-up wands sound like logical things that probably do/could happen in canon even though they're not mentioned in the books.

Runes never seemed HP-like to me, so meh.

I'm actually in the minority that likes the idea of Merlin being in Slytherin. It can always be explained by saying that muggle myths about him are wrong because muggles have zero accurate knowledge of wizarding history.

As for ICW, I never took it seriously. In canon they're basically a non-entity so it's probable that they're not very important or influential.
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I'm not sure there's a point in discussing this further, really. You asked for five "good" things. What is "good"? I gave examples based on what I think falls under that umbrella. If you just don't like fanon tropes, there's no convincing you, and you won't convince me. I just felt tempted to take up your challenge. It's all subjective no? I disagree with your assertions about the Notice-me-not spell, but since it's purely a fanon invention, who's to say my interpretation of it is the "correct" one and not yours?
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Obnoxiously forced diversity.

For example I was reading a fem!Harry fic where she is gay. That information was in the summary at least. I don't mind fem!Harry stories as long as it isn't just canon Harry with a pussy. I like to see the differences in how she interacts with the world and its characters.

I started the story and early on it is told that Sirius is in a relationship with Peter. It wasn't written poorly, but it didn't add anything to the story from the chapters I read. It was a very minor part and I rolled my eye and moved on.

Hermione in the fic clearly has some kind of disorder. She does certain things at certain times in certain spots to help memory retention.

Remus is outed as a werewolf and then there is the whole Werewolves Are People Too PSA and the discussion of of racist and intolerant the Ministry is. Apparently, in this fic, werewolves were only considered creatures until the 60's where they got some rights.

Then a couple chapters later a new girl is introduced and it looks like she is going to transition into a boy because "she has boy magic" or some such. Seriously.

I stopped reading soon after. Not that I have any problem with any of these things in of itself, but it felt like the author was checking off a list of diversity quotas which all combined took me out of the setting.

And those were just the first 10 chapters of a 30 chapter fic. I'm sure by now there are disabled people in wheelchairs roaming the halls of Hogwarts and probably an autism diagnosis.
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That sounds less like a forced diversity thing and more like the author is on some non-comformist/special snowflake kick. Like when you have a slash story and every fucking man is gay.
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My eyes are fucking bleeding after reading that summary. And I'm transgender so that's saying something.
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When words like "sans" "et al" "faux" "faux pas" pick the french word that you use to add culture to a sentence is used every other paragraph because you can't find a different word to use.

It peeves me off so bad it hurts.
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Sans and et al are French huh? TIL
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Sans and et al are French huh? TIL
My mistake about "Et Al" that's Latin "Coup d'etat is another French word used often in the English language.
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