Dark Lord Potter Forums
Go Back   Dark Lord Potter Forums > Common Room > Bookclub
Donate Register Rules Library List IRC Chat FAQ Members List Social Groups Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Donate to DLP Scryer Banner

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-24-2017, 11:53 AM   #1
Atram Noctem
High Inquisitor
 
Atram Noctem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 525
Week 28: Deathly Hallows, Ch. 30 - 36 & Epilogue

Quote:
And he spat in her face.
Harry pulled the Cloak off himself, raised his wand, and said, “You shouldn't have done that.”
As Amycus spun around, Harry shouted, “Crucio!”
Holy fuck, Harry, what, where the fuck did that come from?
Quote:
Professor McGonagall rose to her feet, pointed her wand at the groggy Death Eater, and said,“Imperio.”
Amycus got up, walked over to his sister, picked up her wand, then shuffled obediently to Professor McGonagall and handed it over along with his own. Then he lay down on the floor beside Alecto.
…Seriously, why is everyone suddenly throwing Unforgivables around like they're going out of style? Particularly when they can use any number of legal, not particularly dark spells to achieve the same result? If this was a fanfic, I'd close it.
Quote:
pointing at the Snape-shaped hole in the window.
What is this, Looney Tunes?
Quote:
“Mandrakes!” Neville bellowed at Harry over his shoulder as he ran. “Going to lob them over the walls – they won’t like this!”
Great idea, Neville! Use a weapon that can kill your allies just as much as your enemies!
Quote:
You have guessed, I know, why the Cloak was in my possession on the night your parents died. James had showed it to me just a few days previously.
No, Dumbledore, it's mentioned in Lily's letter that you had the Cloak at the time of Harry's birthday, which was months earlier.
Quote:
He felt the hand on his chest contract: her nails pierced him.
Hawt.
Quote:
"What will happen to your children when I've killed you?" taunted Bellatrix
Oh the irony.
Quote:
"I brought about the death of Albus Dumbledore!"
"You thought you did," said Harry, "but you were wrong."
No, Harry, Voldemort is actually right, though not for the reason he thinks he is. It was his curse on the Ring that brought Dumbledore's death.
Quote:
“I’ve had enough trouble for a lifetime.”
Yeah now go into one of the most dangerous professions.
Quote:
Nineteen Years Later
Why.
__________________
Do not feed the plot bunnies.
Atram Noctem is offline   Reply With Quote
Thumbs Up 5 thumbs up
Old 04-24-2017, 01:56 PM   #2
BTT
Unspeakable
 
BTT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Cyber City Oedo
Gender: Male
Posts: 760
At some point in these final chapters, the language starts ramping up in formality something fierce.

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 309
“Where do Vanished objects go?”
“Into non being, which is to say, everything,”
Don't think anyone forgot this, but still raises some interesting questions.

Boy, the Unforgivables are just fucking flying around now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 313
Professor McGonagall moved faster than Harry could have believed. Her wand slashed through the air and for a split second Harry thought that Snape must crumple, unconscious, but the swiftness of his Shield Charm was such that McGonagall was thrown off balance. She brandished her wand at a torch on the wall and it flew out of its bracket. Harry, about to curse Snape, was forced to pull Luna out of the way of the descending flames, which became a ring of fire that filled the corridor and flew like a lasso at Snape--- Then it was no longer fire, but a great black serpent that McGonagall blasted to smoke, which re-formed and solidified in seconds to become a swarm of pursuing daggers. Snape avoided them only by forcing the suit of armor in front of him, and with echoing clangs the daggers sank, one after another, into its breast---
Less impressive than Voldemort and Dumbledore's duel, maybe, but still far more interesting than the basically-a-shootout most fics go for.

Wonder why the Baron felt the need to stab her when he was a fucking wizard. What, were spells for horrible murder not invented yet?

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 328
Ron made a horrible strangled hissing noise.
Rowling really had to pull this out of her ass. Like whoa.

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 329
“Is this the moment?” Harry asked weakly, and when nothing happened except that Ron and Hermione gripped each other still more firmly and swayed on the spot, he raised his voice. “Oi! There’s a war going on here!”
Don't cockblock, Harry. Not cool.

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 330
Looking down, Harry saw Grawp the giant meandering past, swinging what looked like a stone gargoyle torn from the roof and roaring his displeasure.
A gargoyle? Aren't those animate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 332
Crabbe turned on Malfoy with undisguised ferocity. “Who cares what you think? I don’t take your orders no more, Draco. You an’ your dad are finished.”
What shitty minions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 334
Malfoy was screaming and holding Harry so tightly it hurt.
another line to launch a thousand bad slash fanfics

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 340
"I'm Draco Malfoy, I'm Draco, I'm on your side!"
Draco was on the upper landing, pleading with anoter masked Death Eater. Harry Stunned the Death Eater as they passed. Malfoy looked around, beaming, for his savior, and Ron punched him from under the Cloak. Malfoy fell backward on top of the Death Eater, his mouth bleeding, utterly bemused.
lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 340
"NO!" shrieked Hermione, and with a deafening blast from her wand, Fenrir Greyback was thrown backward from the feebly struggling body of Lavender Brown.
So is she alive or not?

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 353
Lily glanced toward her parents, who were looking around the platform with an air of wholehearted enjoyment, drinking in the scene.
Behold: the only description we ever get of Harry's maternal grandparents.

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 356
“Slipped out?” There was no pity in Lily’s voice. “It’s too late. I’ve made excuses for you for years. None of my friends can understand why I even talk to you. You and your precious little Death Eater friends – you see, you don’t even deny it! You don’t even deny that’s what you’re all aiming to be! You can’t wait to join You-Know-Who, can you?”
Lily is fucking ice cold to Snape, goddamn.

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 357
“You disgust me,” said Dumbledore, and Harry had never heard so much contempt in his voice. Snape seemed to shrink a little, “You do not care, then, about the deaths of her husband and child? They can die, as long as you have what you want?”
So much for this romp redeeming Snape!

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 360
I ask this one great favor of you, Severus, because death is coming for me as surely as the Chudley Cannons will finish bottom of this year’s league.
Way to undercut the seriousness there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 377
The argument became a fight. Grindelwald lost control. That which I had always sensed in him, though I pretended not to, now sprang into terrible being. And Ariana . . . after all my mother’s care and caution . . . lay dead upon the floor.
So Dumbledore thinks Grindlewald did it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 381
It was Bellatrix's voice, and she spoke as if to a lover.
lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 387
he saw McGonagall, Kingsley and Slughorn blasted backward, flailing and writhing through the air, as Voldemort's fury at the fall of his last, best lieutenant exploded with the force of a bomb, [and] Voldemort raised his wand and directed it at Molly Weasley.
Also the mother of his child.

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 391
Voldemort was dead, killed by his own rebounding curse,
Subtle, Rowling.

Quote:
Originally Posted by page 395
"I only forgot to look in the wing mirror, and let's face it, I can use a Supersensory Charm for that."
People parade this around as Ron being some horrible dick, but as someone with a driving license those examinators are complete dickheads, so who gives two shits?

Al seems like a pretty decent kid here. In contrast to, y'know, Cursed Child, where by all accounts and summaries he's kind of a massive twat. Then again, he's a teenager there.


Also, to end in style: congratulations to everyone who participated in this reread, that being basically me, Atram Noctem, and Shinysavage (who'll probably come in a few days late like usual); I'd also like to mock those who did not, in fact, make it, the most prominent among those being the guy who actually set this up yet probably won't read this anyway. Looking at you, Taure.
BTT is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2017, 02:09 PM   #3
Shinysavage
Death Eater
Madman With A Box
 
Shinysavage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: UK
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Posts: 978
High Score: 2,296
Quote:
Originally Posted by BTT View Post
Wonder why the Baron felt the need to stab her when he was a fucking wizard. What, were spells for horrible murder not invented yet?



Quote:
Also, to end in style: congratulations to everyone who participated in this reread, that being basically me, Atram Noctem, and Shinysavage (who'll probably come in a few days late like usual); I'd also like to mock those who did not, in fact, make it, the most prominent among those being the guy who actually set this up yet probably won't read this anyway. Looking at you, Taure.
I'd make some comment about feeling personally attacked and triggered, but since I haven't finished last week's section yet...
__________________
“I am and always will be the optimist. The hoper of far-flung hopes and the dreamer of improbable dreams.”
Shinysavage is online now   Reply With Quote
Thumbs Up 1 Thumb Up
Old 04-24-2017, 03:43 PM   #4
vlad
Seventh Year
 
vlad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Georgia, SSR
Gender: Male
Posts: 257
High Score: 2000
I'd forgotten that Neville the Herbolomancer was canon.

To those of you who did this: thanks. Lurked ALL the threads, was inspired by your finds and hindsights to start a belated re-read myself. Great addition to the library of DLP.

Top work, braz.
__________________
"Trembling, she left the chamber with Anthony Goldstein, Gregory Goyle and Daphne Greengrass." ~ Most important sentence in Harry Potter.

vlad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2017, 04:58 PM   #5
Rhaegar I
Unspeakable
 
Rhaegar I's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Right behind You...
Gender: Male
Posts: 768
Quote:
Originally Posted by vlad View Post
I'd forgotten that Neville the Herbolomancer was canon.

To those of you who did this: thanks. Lurked ALL the threads, was inspired by your finds and hindsights to start a belated re-read myself. Great addition to the library of DLP.

Top work, braz.
I just want to say that I second the sentiment. I didn't really reply to a lot of the threads, but I did make it a point to read all of them. I got some great reminders of all those things why I loved Harry Potter, even if a few things didn't age that well. And it gave me joy every time some annoying Fanon idea was outright disproved with a single sentence in the actual Canon.

To all the people who did actually comment in all the Re-Read threads, good job. For lazy people like me, we finally finished this fun little project. A shame it's over now, though.
__________________
Ronald Bilius Weasley is the best character in the Harry Potter Universe. You can quote me on that.
Rhaegar I is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2017, 02:32 AM   #6
brad
Second Year
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australia
Gender: Male
Posts: 75
Quote:
Originally Posted by BTT View Post
Quote:
Voldemort was dead, killed by his own rebounding curse,
Subtle, Rowling.
M'eh. Rowling was absolutely determined not to have any of the Trio (or any of the kids) end up as 'killers'. Not overtly, anyway. Therefore - like so much in the series - credibility and writing quality was sacrificed so that everything could be shoehorned into what she wanted to write or could be bothered to write. 'Subtle', not really. More like lazy, unrealistic, uninspired ...
brad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2017, 05:15 PM   #7
Shinysavage
Death Eater
Madman With A Box
 
Shinysavage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: UK
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Posts: 978
High Score: 2,296
Chapter 30: The Sacking of Severus Snape

Quote:
Professor McGonagall rose to her feet, pointed her wand at the groggy Death Eater, and said,“Imperio.”
Amycus got up, walked over to his sister, picked up her wand, then shuffled obediently to Professor McGonagall and handed it over along with his own. Then he lay down on the floor beside Alecto.
At least when Harry uses Unforgiveables, there's some practical or emotional reason for it, even it it's a bit morally dubious. This is just...well, it's pointless. She could just have stunned him, summoned the wands, and then tied them up. Literally one more, far easier spell than she already casts.

Chapter 31: The Battle of Hogwarts

Quote:
Tom Riddle, who confided in no-one and operated alone, might have been arrogant enough to assume that he, and only he, had penetrated the deepest mysteries of Hogwarts castle.
But only if we assume that when he hid the diadem, the RoR took the form of an empty room instead of the "cathedral sized room" full of junk that it appears to Harry as.

Quote:
'And he never realised anyone could get in?' said Ron
Exactly!

Quote:
the contraband of generations of hunted students, the guilty outcomes of a thousand banned experiments
Fuck Knockturn Alley, there's an actual canonical possibility for Harry picking up some obscure grimoires and objects.

Chapter 33: The Prince's Tale

Quote:
Remus and Tonks, pale and still and peaceful looking
There's a lot to be said for understatement in fiction, but when I first read DH I didn't realise they'd died until Harry used the Resurrection Stone in the forest.

Quote:
Nothing that even Snape had left him could be worse than his own thoughts.
Well...

Quote:
'They sneak out at night. There's something weird about Lupin. Where does he keep going?'
'He's ill,' said Lily. 'They say he's ill - '
'Every month at the full moon?' said Snape.
'I know your theory,' said Lily
[...]
'You went sneaking down that tunnel by the Whomping Willow and James Potter saved you from whatever's down there - '
So...Snape knew about Lupin being a werewolf, but still asks Lily what's going on with him. Could be argued that he's trying to lead her to the same conclusion, or that he thinks she wouldn't believe him if he said "I saw it happen!", but given the sloppy detail work in DH...

Quote:
'Would you like me to do it now?' asked Snape, his voice heavy with irony. 'Or would you like a few moments to compose an epitaph?'
Possibly his best line in the series.

Chapter 34: The Forest Again

Quote:
James was exactly the same height as Harry.
Once more for people at the back - it's genetic, not abuse.

Chapter 35: King's Cross

Quote:
But the Cloak, I took out of vain curiosity, and so it could never have worked for me as it works for you, its true owner.
Why? You just get under it and then you're hidden, as far as we see.

Chapter 36: The Flaw in the Plan

Quote:
It was Bellatrix's voice, and she spoke as if to a lover.
Oh, OK. Come back Cursed Child, all is forgiven - we just missed the subtle foreshadowing.

Quote:
Jets of light flew from both wands, the floor around the witches' feet became hot and cracked; both women were fighting to kill.
Remember when people suggested that it was Molly's maternal instinct pushing her to greater heights of magical prowess? Guess it didn't work for Bellatrix.

Quote:
Harry's monologue to Voldemort
Harry takes the accusation of being Dumbledore's man to its logical conclusion, by taking the first opportunity to deliver a torrent of exposition. Similarly, the parallels between Voldemort and Harry - especially OotP onwards Harry - become more apparent, as he neither understands nor cares what is being said to him.

Nineteen Years Later

Quote:
'you were named for two headmasters of Hogwarts. One of them was a Slytherin and he was probably the bravest man I ever knew.'
Often seen as controversial, but I would say simply objective fact - whatever Snape's flaws, and they are many, he spent three years living a life that could have seen him killed by half the country simply for blinking at the wrong time. Your mileage may vary on how much it redeems him, but let's not argue that he was brave.

Quote:
One of them was a Slytherin and he was probably the bravest man I ever knew.'[...]
...'and they were both manipulative bastards, albeit well meaning to greater or lesser extent, so you should feel wonderful about the fact that I chose you to bear their memorial instead of your two older siblings. Have a great term, kid.'

And that's that! It's been a lot of fun, and a lot of interesting things have come out of it. If nothing else, between us we've put together a useful archive of quotes for canon debates.
@BTT, @Atram Noctem - fancy doing Cursed Child?
__________________
“I am and always will be the optimist. The hoper of far-flung hopes and the dreamer of improbable dreams.”
Shinysavage is online now   Reply With Quote
Thumbs Up 1 Thumb Up
Old 04-25-2017, 05:39 PM   #8
BTT
Unspeakable
 
BTT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Cyber City Oedo
Gender: Male
Posts: 760
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinysavage View Post
@BTT, @Atram Noctem - fancy doing Cursed Child?
I'm up for it if you guys are, honestly. Though I feel like reading it as a book kinda misses the point, it being a stage play first and foremost. I'm thinking we split it in two parts, like the ebook I "stumbled across" online is.
BTT is online now   Reply With Quote
Thumbs Up 1 Thumb Up
Old 04-25-2017, 08:59 PM   #9
Henry Persico
Groundskeeper
 
Henry Persico's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Argentina
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 335
DLP Supporter Donor Star
Send a message via Skype™ to Henry Persico
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinysavage View Post
Chapter 34: The Forest Again

Quote:
James was exactly the same height as Harry.
Once more for people at the back - it's genetic, not abuse.
And he [James] is previously described as tall. So, tall by English standards, I say 6 feet. Not like Albus nor Voldemort, but good enough height.

Excellente work there, lads. Thank you.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morta's Priest in Wand and Shield
"We're running out of time. We definitely don't want to be late."

Harry smiled, despite everything. "A wizard is never late, Tony, nor is he early."

Tony groaned. "I should never have let you borrow the Fellowship.".
Henry Persico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2017, 10:26 PM   #10
TheTycat
First Year
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Gender: Male
Posts: 37
On the topic of Ron imitating Parseltongue, why didn't Harry just make a howler?
TheTycat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2017, 03:32 AM   #11
Shinysavage
Death Eater
Madman With A Box
 
Shinysavage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: UK
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Posts: 978
High Score: 2,296
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTycat View Post
On the topic of Ron imitating Parseltongue, why didn't Harry just make a howler?
Because he had no idea what they were doing until after the fact. Presumably it would have worked though if they had thought about it.
__________________
“I am and always will be the optimist. The hoper of far-flung hopes and the dreamer of improbable dreams.”
Shinysavage is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2017, 06:55 AM   #12
Atram Noctem
High Inquisitor
 
Atram Noctem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 525
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry Persico View Post
And he [James] is previously described as tall. So, tall by English standards, I say 6 feet. Not like Albus nor Voldemort, but good enough height.
And he was described as tall by Voldemort, so not much less than him.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinysavage View Post
@BTT, @Atram Noctem - fancy doing Cursed Child?
I thought about it, really don't know if I can bear reading that pile of puke again. And it would all be just pointing out plot holes, which means every second word in the play.
__________________
Do not feed the plot bunnies.
Atram Noctem is offline   Reply With Quote
Thumbs Up 1 Thumb Up


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Week 25: Deathly Hallows, Ch. 23 - 29 BTT Bookclub 4 04-25-2017 08:23 PM
Week 24: Deathly Hallows, Ch. 16 - 22 BTT Bookclub 4 04-18-2017 08:55 AM
Week 22: Deathly Hallows, Ch. 1 - 8 BTT Bookclub 2 03-27-2017 05:26 PM
Deathly Hallows Epilogue: Expanded (Moar Details) Vengashii General Discussion 64 08-16-2008 01:45 PM
Epilogue Casting? (Deathly Hallows Spoilers) The Mysterious Nobody General Discussion 27 12-17-2007 07:31 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:45 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2005 - 2016 DLP Group. All rights reserved.
No personal intellectual property on this site may be used without the credit and express permission of the respective authors.