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WIP A Practical Guide to Evil by Erraticerrata - T - Original Fantasy

Discussion in 'Original Fiction' started by DvorakQ, Apr 14, 2016.

  1. theronin

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    If I remember right, the Red Skies effect is him dismantling a giant ward or something similar, so I don't think him dying would end it.
     
  2. Nazgus

    Nazgus Death Eater

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    It's described as a weakening of the boundary between a Hell and Creation using wards. So while it might stop weakening if the wards are tied to his life (which I'm not sure they are), I imagine it will stay weakened for a while.
     
  3. Imraefi

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    Well that was dumb.
     
  4. Shinysavage

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    Huh. Not sure what I think of that.

    On the one hand...we haven't seen the body, and we only actually have Brad's word that she's dead. This is exactly the kind of story where those details could count.

    In addition, based on what we saw of the fight, it doesn't seem reasonable that Captain could have lost, given that she was utterly dominating it by the end of the scene.

    On the other hand, heroes scoring unreasonable victories is more or less Black's motivation, so it would make sense, and it fits on a wider thematic level as well.

    Either way though, this feels more like a whimper than the bang that had been built up.
     
  5. Nazgus

    Nazgus Death Eater

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    Warlock's reaction seems to confirm her being dead:
    I'm with you on it feeling more like a whimper than a bang though. Not very happy with how it all went down. And I mean that in the storytelling point of view, not the plot one.
     
  6. Stealthy

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    The end of Sabah's bit also basically tells us that she's the one dying, especially after Warlock straight up kills Hedge. Cutting out before the kill is made means that, especially with all the death foreshadowing, the kill didn't happen and the Beast got decapitated. A lot of the comments are talking about being annoyed that Sabah didn't even use her third aspect, but then again they're also trying to use it to justify her survival so... yeah.

    Definitely didn't stick the landing here. Kinda underwhelming. Overall the fights were good, but not the conclusion.
     
  7. Nazgus

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    Reread to see if it would be better on the second round, and it just doesn't work for me. Not seeing it and just having Black react to it works terribly, and even though Warlock seems to confirm it I'm left unconvinced. The story Bard created seems too thin to turn the tide when Sabah seemed so in control of the fight last we left her. Having her die offscreen like that makes me think that there has to be something we're missing from how it all went down, but one of the Calamities has to die in this fight. If Cat is going to become the new power, the old one has to start waning, and I don't see that happening if they walk out of this unscathed. And lets be real here, anything that's not death is effectively unscathed for a Named.
     
  8. Lamora

    Lamora Definitely Not Batman

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    Fuck, I've just realized how Warlock is going to die. His husband is a devil. They're fighting the Diabolist.

    Right in front of our very eyes the whole time. Christ.
     
  9. Mutton

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    Way too in universe obvious to the point where I half expect trying it is what is going to lead to her downfall
     
  10. Spacegnom

    Spacegnom First Year

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    Maybe I'm just paying more attention, but I feel like the typos are getting worse. This plus the weird conclusion (?) to the last few interludes has me abit worried about this story. I guess we will see what happens when the "3-chapters per week" patreon goal is hit.
    That said the fireplace scene at the end of this chapter was glorious.
    Anyone else wondering who the 3 other students of Ranger are? For a second I thought Archer might have referred to Warlock, Black and Malica. But, I doubt they were ever real 'students' of Ranger.
     
  11. Stealthy

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    I think Black's the only one who really qualified as a student among the Calamities, but I imagine Archer's referring to recent ones. They haven't been mentioned yet.

    I don't think it's getting worse, but errata just really needs a beta simply to proof the typos. English is his second language. Does pretty well with it for the most part but gotta compensate by getting a native speaker to proof the grammar. Two and a half books in and he hasn't gotten one, so not really expecting that to ever happen.
     
  12. Spacegnom

    Spacegnom First Year

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    Well, that was a chapter heavy with foreshadowing...
    Sounds like the King of Winter is the one at fault for all this mess. I used to think that he took the heart purely out of spite. But, now I think a piece of Callow/Catherine is what he wanted all along. The Winter King might just end up being the "endboss fight" of this Book.
    I don't know, if the "Six times the coming of my title" theory has been posted here before:
    "I bought us at least six months until anything goes down.
    Six times the coming of my title, the King of Winter had said. Overly dramatic phrasing but at least I had a number."
    The theory postulates that Catherine is wrong and that this means 6 months - 1 month per usage of Fall (which creates 'moonless nights').
    In Close (3.32) Catherine thinks she still has "three months and some" left. But, if the theory holds true, it could be that she has only one month and some to regain her heart. Including up to one month she has to spend waiting for the Queen of Summer.
    Another interesting thing that was brought up once again was that Summer and Winter can't be at war with the same foe. So, I would be very disappointed if we don't see Cat make use of this 'Rule' before the end.
     
  13. Stealthy

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    I feel like I've said it before but the King of Winter wants to break the pattern, just like Black. And both are using Cat as the means to do it.

    Also that theory kinda works, if only because it means that her time runs out after this final battle against the Queen.
     
  14. Lion

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    This chapter makes me think that Cat's name will have to do with breaking patterns in some way. Her getting White Knight while still being aligned with "evil" would be a really good flip, but I'd be more excited for some new or forgotten name. Something that comes out of left field but has hints laid out in the story.