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Basic ruleset for games

Discussion in 'Graveyard' started by KaiDASH, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. KaiDASH

    KaiDASH High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    There's been some discussion in the currently ongoing WH game with regard to rules and expectations, so I thought it'd be good if we could agree on a base set of rules that everyone knows is always in effect (unless explicitly said to not apply by the game moderator)

    • Only living players may post in the game thread
    • You may not post in the game thread during the night phase
    • You may not edit or delete posts from the game thread or in any QuickTopics you may be posting in
    • You may not privately communicate with anyone except the game moderator unless you're specifically allowed to do so (i.e. the QuickTopics for Witches or Angels). This includes using systems outside the scope of the game to communicate something game related (i.e. Thumbs-Up'ing a post).

    Any others? I want this to be able to apply to like 99% of all games, such that the game mod can just go

    Ok, base rules apply plus x,y,z specific to my game.

    Isn't this just a list of generally accepted rules or assumed etiquette? Why is this necessary when everyone already knows this?

    Assumed etiquette is only functional when everybody is aware of it. The entire concept breaks down if somebody does not know the assumed etiquette.

    The entire point of this is to ensure that everybody knows the rules, because having a largely unspoken assumed etiquette is not good enough.
     
    Last edited: May 1, 2012
  2. Ash

    Ash Moves Like Jagger DLP Supporter

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    "You may edit or delete posts from the game thread or in any QuickTopics you may be posting in"

    should have a not in it.
     
  3. Oliver Kingston

    Oliver Kingston Fake Flamingo Prestige DLP Supporter

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    You mean may not?
     
  4. KaiDASH

    KaiDASH High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    it does now :D
     
  5. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    Eh, that entire editing business ... editing something into a personal qt should be fine, and I'd also like if adding stuff into posts in the thread was allowed. To be completely honest, the automerged posts give me spastic twitches every time I encounter them.

    It's entirely possible to see what was edited in a post, for mods. So it's not like anyone can get away with bullshit edits (see: StrikerLee).

    The rest: fine with me, and pretty self-explanatory.
     
  6. Ash

    Ash Moves Like Jagger DLP Supporter

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    We don't always have a mod playing a game, though, Sesc, nor would you guys necessarily check every edit. I do think that edits in personal QTs should be allowed.
     
  7. KaiDASH

    KaiDASH High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    It's easier and more concise to not differ in rules between 'personal QTs' (where editing is ok) and 'shared QTs' (where editing is not ok).
     
  8. iLost

    iLost Minister of Magic

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    I know I did this myself in my last game. Made a post after I was shot, when we were told not to. So, if someone does it without intention, should they just go back and edit it, deleting it in the process, or leave it up? I just ended up deleting my post.
     
  9. Aekiel

    Aekiel Angle of Mispeling Prestige DLP Supporter

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    No edits whatsoever. If you post after the deadline because it ticked over while you were typing then it should stay. If you purposefully post after deadline, modkill.
     
  10. Lungs

    Lungs KT Loser Prestige DLP Supporter

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    Did this really need a thread? I thought this was assumed-etiquette or whatever, on penalty of modkill, etc.
     
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  11. Ash

    Ash Moves Like Jagger DLP Supporter

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    Clearly some people don't have common sense...
     
  12. Bill Door

    Bill Door The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    It's best to have it stated clearly for any new players, and so no one can use the excuse of "I didn't know".
     
  13. KaiDASH

    KaiDASH High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    :facepalm

    The entire point is that the concept of 'assumed-etiquette' breaks down when you get new players.

    How can a new player know what the 'assumed-etiquette' is if nobody tells them?
     
  14. iLost

    iLost Minister of Magic

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    I don't think it's ignorance, just lack of absorbing the information. Most of this is listed in the wall-o-text at the beginning of each game and gets lost as new players read through all of it.

    Point in case my fuck-up in my last game. I read it, but forgot til' Aekiel reminded me. If there was a general thread separate from the wall-o-text, then it might sink in easier for new players.

    Least, those are my thoughts as I was, and consider myself, a new player. There's a lot to take in and I think some of the veterans, who have four or five games under their belt, forget. I'm not trying to insult the games or anything, because I had a blast playing, but the complexity is pretty steep. One or two things is bound to slip someone's mind while trying to remember the roles, the phases, keeping track of whose lying, whose not, whose scum, and what have you.
     
  15. Ash

    Ash Moves Like Jagger DLP Supporter

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    Question. Should it really be against the rules to thumbs up a post if you are alive and in the game? I understand it being a big fat no if you're dead, but it being against the rules when you're alive seems a bit much.
     
  16. jwlk

    jwlk Seventh Year

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    It's not against the rules, no.
     
  17. KaiDASH

    KaiDASH High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Some people had issues with lurkers like Lutris and lungs (I think it was lungs? it was definitely lutris though) thumbs uping posts without making a post of their own.

    edit: Also, for avoidance of doubt, none of these rules apply in games where they're not explicitly stated to be in play.
     
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  18. Koalas

    Koalas Dark Lord DLP Supporter

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    No ones saying it should replace posting requirements but it is more concise then posting "I agree."
     
  19. KaiDASH

    KaiDASH High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Personally, I don't care about that one, but I think that if anyone has a real problem with such a thing happening then that's enough to at least seriously consider it.
     
  20. Ash

    Ash Moves Like Jagger DLP Supporter

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    I just think you should tweak the ruleset to say that thumbs upping is allowed when the thumbs upper is alive in the game. Unless someone can come in here and say that they have a big problem with it for x reason. I mean, it's not a huge loss if we can't thumbs up, I guess.