Hi,

I'm darknspooky and I've been a longtime fan of DLP. I've written my first story. Ithink it's pretty good, but I'd really appreciate the feedback of this community.

Title: Crossing Over
Genre: Romance/Independent
Rating: PG-13
Pairing: Harry/Ginny
Type: One-shot
Status: Complete
Summary: Slytherin!Harry. What does it take to break the centuries long feud between Slytherin and Gryffindor. And is it enough? Rated T for some mature themes, but nothing TOO explicit. Takes place in Harry's seventh year (no DH)
Link: Patronus Charm

Before anyone says anything, yes it's Harry Ginny. However, it's Slytherin!Harry and it's certainly not the usual Mary-Sue!Ginny that you get some times. All I'm asking is that you give it a chance.

 

If you want feedback on your story you should post it in Work by Author section.

There people will review it and give you tips on how to make it better.

 

I don't have time to read the entire thing right now but the first three lines reminds me immensely of another scene I read recently where the roles were the reversed; Harry and a Slytherin female. I think it was a Fem!Blaise. Anyone else notice that?

I'll actually review tomorrow or the day after. Got an assessment to finish first.

 

Quickly skimming through i, it appears to be pretty much identical to a Harry/Fem!Blaise fic, When Worlds Collide (it's in the Romance section of the Library) As I said, that's only on a quick skim through. I'll leave a lengtheir review when I've read it all properly.

EDIT: Having compared up until

in Crossing Over and comparing it to When Worlds Collide

I can say it appears they're identical except for a few word changes.

 

Yup, this is plagiarism, pure and simple. This fic is identical to 'When Worlds Collide' except for the name changes and a few words here and there.

What have you got to say for yourself, darknspooky?

 

Then you'd surely know that DLP has never been a fan of plagiarism and will certainly never tolerate it.

 

When Worlds Collide

This is a link to Armless Penguin's original fic, When Worlds Collide. "Crossing Over" is virtually identical, save for Blaise --> Ginny.

This has been posted on Patronus Charm too, by the way.

 

I've seen this too often, and I lose a little more faith in the human race every time I see it.

GTFO out my DLP, and I condemn you to be raped by Gio and a hamster.

 

This was soap opera Fan fiction. Didn't really grab my attention at all and I found myself skimming portions because nothing much happens.

It seems you've put Harry in Slytherin for no other reason than for him and Ginny not to get on at the start. Blaize and Daphne are this Harrys Ron and Hermione and you've even made the mistake of calling Blaize Ron at one point.

Just rather boring to be honest.

EDIT

Okay realising its basically a copy and paste of a story makes sense that Blaise is called Ron, obviously something the 'Author' missed.

-5/5 for being a wank

 

Meh. I half-expected it to end up like this.

The thread, I mean. Not the story.

All right people, pull the claws back in -- this wasn't a serious recommendation. It was a little experiment to know how people would've rated "When Worlds Collide", a romance one-shot that got excellent reviews (recent reviews, too) from regular DLP reviewers, had Blaise Zabini been called Ginny Weasley.

I imagine it would've been more interesting had "WWC" not got recent attention.

Ah well.

 

I am lost, who would go to all that trouble just for an experiment? Seems like a lot of work too me. Multi-accounts, spamming, trolling, racism and child porn are one thing, but if anything will get ya kicked out of a forum, it's plagiarism.

 

Especially if the person got permission from the Library staff first.

Just to be clear: that "plagiarised" story wasn't made to stick around. That's what I meant by "experiment". If it still makes you shudder with horror (something that honours you) I'll delete the story now. You can all see "When Worlds Collide" and mentally replace 'Blaise' and 'Slytherin' with 'Ginny' and 'Gryffindor.' Ginny's never been so well-characterised.

 

50%( 28 ) of all the tagged Harry/Ginny stories are in the recycle bin, 11.2%(5) are for review. That leaves 38.8%(23)which have been deemed good enough for the library. That's 41% of tagged Harry/Ginny fics which have been decided on by DLP memebers. Given that 90% of Harry/Ginny fics are terrible, I'd say that Ginny isn't as badly recieved in fics as attitudes towards her suggest. It has always been the case that DLP would entertain Harry/Ginny fics if they were of a suitable standard (one which I think applies across the board for all recs these days), and the relationship being realistic. Look at Marriage Contracts by Clell65619. Everyone was loving it because it was Harry/Daphne but it did infact end up in the recycle bin where it belongs because it's a terrible attempt at a fan fic.

I dunno, for some reason I don't like the idea of the mods testing us.

 

^ What Randeemy said.

The worst prejudice on DLP is OC-centric stories. Next time take a well-known fanfic that's Harry-centric and replace him with a random name.

 

There's two issues here: plagiarism and experimentation.

I don't really see a problem with plagiarism here. By participating in fanfiction we clearly support derivative works as fair use. As long as the author is open about what is happening (it would be appropriate to explain at the end of the last chapter) and more widely announces it once the experiment is done, it's a parody and a work of far better quality and taste then most of the stuff on FFN. I don't even see a reason for it to be removed, now that the experiments done, preface the first chapter with an explanation to provide context and a link to the reactions.

As for the experimentation part: deception of participants in an experiment is common in psychology (extreme example: the Milgram Experiment). Of course, in these cases people had consented to the experiment... But for something this minor, I don't see a problem.

What would be interesting is to post this to GinnyLovers.net (or wherever it is that they congregate!).

 

I hardly see it as a test, but more as an interesting experiment.

I'd of been interested to see the results tbh. Though, I also believe that the results would of meant nothing, as they prove nothing. SOme people just prefer different characters. Frankly, I think we all have bias against Ginny atm.

 

Wait, so let me get this straight. If this fic had been flamed (instead of the whole thing being seen through in about an hour) it would have been because DLP has an irrational hatred of Ginny, and not at all because the characterisation was completely shot since nothing but a few proper nouns was changed?

Someone should have thought this through a bit more.

 

Well... it'll really depend on what those flames would have been based on.

If it was just basically a rant that Ginny sucks and should go die in a fire, then yes it would have reinforced the stereotype that "DLP ARE LIEK OMG GINNYHAET!"

But if it was a rant that tore the fic apart based on its characterization than it really could have applied to any one character.

Then again, this is all just what ifs. As it is the experiment is kind of a failure as the "plagiarism" was exposed pretty quickly. And if Xiph didnt pop in here to reveal it the thread probably would have degenerated into flames about plagiarism which still wouldnt have proved anything other than DLP hates plagiarism.*

*As we should.

 

Nope. The experiment wasn't about DLP's general tendency, it was about "When Worlds Collide." WWC got good reviews and I can't fathom why. "Because the pairing is Harry/F!Blaise" was possible element of answer. Hypothesis was tested.

This is why, to answer Andromalius, it was about the pairing and not the main character. It wasn't about testing a tendency, it was about testing a story, and more to the point, a specific pairing within a specific story.

And, to lucis: posting it on PC and DLP, where we can control what's happening to it, sounded better than posting it on another site where we can't really do anything besides saying "er... it was just a joke?"

 

WWC only had one main char from canon (Harry), the other was Blaise, an unknown and hence the author could do whatever they wanted with her and keep us happy. Whereas this fiction has Ginny, someone we do know. With Blaise it could be pulled off because no one knew how that character was portrayed, but with Ginny we already have an idea and most of us are like "Wtf, bitch Ginny with no explanation, no smut? Fail!"

That's the main reason I didn't like it. Honestly I didn't even pick up the WWC reference until I reread this thread today.

In results to plagiarism, I'm with Lucis. I see no problem as long as it is referenced. I lol at every disclaimer I see in front of a fanfiction proclaiming "The characters belong to J.K, the plot is mine!" It's fanfiction, you are stealing someones copyrighted work without permission, so I find it perfectly acceptable for it to happen to fanfiction authors in return. Still, a reference doesn't go astray.