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Do you like Harem fics?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Mickey, Mar 30, 2018.

  1. Zombie

    Zombie John Waynes Teeth Prestige DLP Supporter

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    No, its not supposed to be a harem. Retsus Folly is that she falls in love with Harry and lets herself feel. I'm at a loss for words that your radar for harem is so off that you would register that for this fic.

    Largely, this is the best fic in the HP/Bleach fandom. @Nuhuh really needs to update it. It makes me ache everytime I see how longs its been since its updated.

    Another decent HP/Bleach fic is Bleached but there are no harems.
     
  2. Tempestuous Ocean

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    Yeah, it's been a while since I've read this. Otherwise, multiple love interests and lack of developed male characters (compared to female ones) made me think it could turn into harem, but never really thought about it. There was one teacher at the academy I can remember being important in the story.

    I guess I didn't explain my thoughts well enough in my initial post. I mostly mentioned this fic because Retsu's Folly is the best fic I can think of in Bleach fandom.
     
  3. Sauce Bauss

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    You can be forgiven for getting harem vibes from Forry if you went in blind. There are so many other harem fics in Bleach that you can't help but see the flags being raised. Harry is close friends with Rangiku and Shukaku, but their relationship isn't romantic. Annette expressed no interest, while Izanami only tried to seduce him as a power play to manipulate him. Harry shut that down quick-like, and his only explicit move towards any relationship ended with that student beating the shit out of him recreationally for the Fong clan.

    Unohana though? Retsu is love, Retsu is life. Fight me.
     
  4. Zombie

    Zombie John Waynes Teeth Prestige DLP Supporter

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    Nuhuh has always had a thing for the females in a fandom, its part of his style. Re: Stalking Bloodsack and his other works. Harry was the only male character that needed development in the fic, he did have a close relationship with Rangiku, but that was only because they were friends outside of their joining the Gotei.
     
  5. Tempestuous Ocean

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    I think I was binge-reading Bleach/Naruto/One Piece (classic anime/manga fandoms) fics when I first found it. I was mostly convinced there were no well-written Bleach fics at that point, so it was a welcome surprise.

    On another note, I noticed that some authors give in the reviewer pressure and change pairings or make the fic a harem one. Can't really remember specific examples though.

    Also, author's note at the end of the chapter asking for recs for harem members is usually where I stop reading a fic.
     
  6. Zombie

    Zombie John Waynes Teeth Prestige DLP Supporter

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    Truly the worst sort of human being.
     
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    The only good thing about the word "harem" in a fic's description is that it helps me scroll on by with ease.

    A thoughtful deconstruction of the genre, now that would be worth something.
     
  8. Zombie

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    Mm. That username is a pretty bold statement.

    How does one deconstruct Harems. I get like deconstruction of famous food dishes, and reserving them into their own constituent parts for the same flavor profile. But Harems are pretty cut and dry. I don't think there is anything thoughtful about them tbh.
     
  9. Lungs

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    i think i hate you
     
  10. Zombie

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    It was.. also lead by a woman. It was a womans' initials that was being branded onto the other members. Cults are the outlier, not the norm.
     
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    You know, sometimes I ask myself why they aren't more new people on DLP but the more new people I see the more I'm okay with it.
     
  12. Rhaegar I

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    Sure, provided that the harem fic:

    a. Instead of having one man owning a bunch of women, how about one woman owning a bunch of men? Or one man owning a bunch of other men. Or one woman owning a bunch of other women. Or any other dynamic that didn't involve one man owning a bunch of women

    b. When someone is made part of a harem for reasons beyond their control, show them actually being upset or angry about it. Maybe even plotting to get out of the harem by any means necessary.

    c. Instead of everyone getting along perfectly well in the harem, how about some rivalries, factions, and disputes.

    d. Show that the wizarding world either does it all the time, or Harry is doing something unusual or even illegal.

    e. Don't have 11 year olds making or joining a harem?

    In other words, no. The only time I ever actually enjoyed a story with a harem in it was Rorschach's Blot's Lets do the Time Warp Again, and that was supposed to make fun of the whole harem concept.
     
  13. James018

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    To be fair, the Firebird Trilogy includes most of those concepts.
     
  14. Rhaegar I

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    True. Although I think it's worth remembering the Firebird Trilogy, the closest thing there is to a good harem fic, was only good because it basically did everything most harem fics don't, from creating a logical reason behind the existence of harems to explicitly making it a very bad thing to put 11 year olds into harems.
     
  15. TheLazyReader

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    What would be a thoughtful deconstruction of harems?

    Guy builds a harem because he can but comes to eventually hate all the girls because of that decision was made prematurely when he didn't know them well enough and when he does he finds he doesn't like their personality at all?

    Or he finds, after forming a harem, that he was the target of a curse that makes him run after any other girl that is not his the one he truly loves, and later the initial harem end up resenting him and become antagonists?

    Let's get some ideas rolling, people.
     
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    Seems to me like a good deconstruction of the harem genre would require the sort of time, finesse and skill best spent writing something actually good.