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WIP Iris Potter and the Goblet's Surprise by Autumn Souls - M

Discussion in 'Review Board' started by Taure, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. KGB

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    That is good. The fic does have charm to it which kept me coming back, but the rather scattered writing style kept putting me off.

    If he manages to polish it, this could be rather good.
     
  2. VorpalWeenie

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    Yeah, I certainly didn't expect a re-write. And it's not even a re-write.

    It's a complete redo with years 1-3 included. One of the parts I liked most about this story is that we were essentially dropped into this story midway. I rarely enjoy fics that say they'll "power through Harry's first 13 years of life and get to 4th year which is where the real action starts (there are a loooooot of these for some reason)." Why bother if you don't believe those parts will be enjoyable? You either respect what you're writing or you don't. There are ways of growing characters that aren't just starting with silly first-year tadpoles. This author did a great job teasing some of Iris' past without saying much and it still left a great impact.

    That said, I believe that they'll do a great job writing it all out. I just feel disappointed that this will basically all be scrapped and I'll have to wait a couple of years to get back to a similar timeline.

    I do go on a lot of rants....
     
  3. MrBucket

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    I was concerned about waiting years for fourth year to come around again too so I messaged the author. They said that it would likely be back to fourth year by the time 2019 rolls around. I don't think the author would care if I posted the relevant parts of the message?

    Specifically:

    "If my writing patterns now are any indication, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done before next year. I've written nearly 200k words in the last 6 months. And I would be surprised if these three years reach too far over 200k words, if they reach over it at all. Things like the Forbidden Forest detention, Norbert, Quidditch matches, explanations, and similar things will be summarized briefly or just skipped over and referred to in a single line or so — and that's if they're there in the first place. I don't think I'll even have the Forbidden Forest detention or getting Norbert out. I'm outright skipping the shopping trip, the sorting, and probably other things. There'll be no real reason to include them, as they hardly stray from canon — so what's really the point? I might have a character or two get sorted into other houses (Daphne into Ravenclaw), but that can be glossed over in a single sentence. So if Philosopher's Stone is 75k words long and I skip or gloss over a good bit, I don't see why it would take that long."

    Also:

    "There are some things from Goblet's Surprise that I'll be moving up. Astra, the phoenix, for example, might be playing a part from the very beginning, allowing Iris/Ivy to not be all too surprised by magic existing as it does in the HP universe."

    The author is also getting betas, which they apparently didn't have before.

    I liked the story mostly for Iris, so as long as Ivy stays similar enough, I'll probably like whatever is coming up. Still, I'm cautious about rewrites. Most end up never finished, or are hardly any better. This is more than a simple rewrite I suppose but I'm still cautious.

    There was more, but jesus I have to piss.
     
  4. why?

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    It would appear that AS is reading this read thread every now and then.

    From seemingly innocuous things like their favourites' list to all the things mentioned in the author's notes.

    Which makes me wonder why they never posted this in WbA.

    So many stories could benefit from a speed run of the first three years. Glad to see another going that route.

    The author's likely dropping Goblet's Surprise because it will never reach the heights they want (a reddit comment from a while back) it to reach. The new story could.
     
  5. illya_

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    Taure is clearly contagious.

    He who should not be named gives the story his attention and BAM, author does a rewrite with a new name for potter.

    We are running out of female names!!
     
  6. MrBucket

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    Taure gave the story attention back in August. There's been plenty of people that talked about the story's flaws. I doubt his review (if he even gave it on fanfiction.net itself) was what did it.
     
  7. illya_

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    While it was meant as a joke (the BAM should be the clue), if I'm being serious I do think that his 2nd post DID influence the author to do a rewrite (based on timing etc).
     
  8. MrBucket

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    I just mean that I'd hope it was one of the many that did it, not just the single one. I'd rather not read from an author that drops their work and rewrites from one review.
     
  9. Darkenmal

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    I was really disappointed to hear that there is going to be a rewrite. I really liked Iris, and the first task was a lot of fun. Oh well. I'll read the rewrite, I guess.
     
  10. MrBucket

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    Well, you'll still be getting Iris. Just under a different name, I guess. I kinda wish the name Iris was being kept. But whatever.
     
  11. Darkenmal

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    Eh. We'll see. I'm down for a better version, but waiting a year to get back to year 4... if the rewrite is better sure that's fine, but that rarely works. Hopefully it will.
     
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    Well, I tried to get through the earlier chapters to get to the part that's supposed to be good. There was definitely much to improve, so rewrite may be a good idea.
     
  13. CaffeineAddict

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    I enjoyed this, but i have to admit I'm looking forward to seeing the character develop more to what we got in this rendition. The later third of the stpry was definitely stronger.

    While it's cliche, overdone, and generally a sign of poor writing, I have a soft spot for the "reasons you suck" speach Iris gives to McGonigall. The irreverent facade falls away and you get a thoroughly fed up teenager ranting at an authority figure that takes that authority for granted. Always a guilty pleasure for me (provided it has plausible reasoning). Just wish it had more through-put in terms of McGonigall's attitude.
     
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    The author mentions wanting the rewrite to start from the earlier years to explain Iris' different personality. I, for one, don't feel the need for an explanation and believe that Year 4 was a fine place to start.

    Thoughts?
     
  15. MrBucket

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    Need it? Nope, not even a little. I thought the author did a good job of explaining the personality through dialogue or throwaway sentences talking about the past. If it was going over the first three years just as an explanation for her personality, I'd say it was completely unnecessary. But I talked with the author some weeks back and they said that 4th year this time around will end up being different. Like, she isn't even planning on having Sirius escape Azkaban third year. Idk if that means a whole new plot for third year or what, but yeah.

    With that said, I followed the story for Iris, not really the year, the tournament, or the plot. I just like characters like her. Snarky assholes who do whatever they want without caring about the consequences. As long as it doesn't take til fourth year for Iris to become the snarky brat I enjoy reading, I'm fine with it starting in the first year.

    I thought it did. I don't really want to reread that bit, but I thought McG started treating Iris better or something. I might be wrong.
     
  16. CaffeineAddict

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    "Better" is a relative term. She doesn't really address any of Iris' concerns or try to alter her behaviour to amy significant degree - she immediately goes running to Dumbledore and then agrees to that cockeyed plan to get "Iris" to go to the ball involving polyjuice. She doesn't seem flanderised despite this, so that's a plus. Ironically, her characterisation is mostly spot on from what I remember from the books.
     
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