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Political Compass, 2017 Edition

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Darth_Revan, Apr 22, 2017.

  1. Nemrut

    Nemrut The Black Mage Prestige

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    Economic Left/Right: -6.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67




    Yeah, the test seems a bit on the nose at some point or just vague in parts.

    Edit: Apparently, when I took this test in 2010, my stats were :

    Economic Left/Right: -4.62
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.49
     
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  2. Thaumologist

    Thaumologist Minister of Magic

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    Economic Left/Right: -4.63
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.92

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    Economically, not really surprising. Socially, I'm not entirely sure where I'd've fit on the scale, but it doesn't stand out as a horrible mistake.

    That said, some of the questions seem really weird. Especially the repeated "are you a massive racist?", "okay, how about just a little?", "what about racist but asked differently?" questions and such.
     
  3. Lindsey

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    The older I get, the more liberal I get. Weird.

    I also don't think these labels are right. Libertarians are for less government control while I support massive government control (breaking up monopolies, public health care, etc)... However, I scored really high as a libertarian which makes me raise an eyebrow.

    Does anyone have a better test than this? If I still had it, I would introduce my AI I developed in college. Based off questions, it would determine how you fit in society (politically) compared to others. It was pretty neat.
     
  4. Seratin

    Seratin Proudmander Prestige DLP Supporter

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    Still remaining somewhere in the red square though I seem to be drifting higher and more towards the right with each passing year.

    As it is I'm almost entirely Centre/Authoritarian. 2011 me would be disappoint.
     
  5. Dark Belra

    Dark Belra Minister of Magic

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    Some of those questions are really bad. Like wow.

    Of current topical interest, they also have the French elections.

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    Apparently Le Pen is literally Hitler.

    And Fillon is literally Hillary Clinton.

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    The test has been accused of skewing everyone towards Libertarian in the past.
     
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  6. Majube

    Majube Seventh Year

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    Economic Left/Right: -5.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.33

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    The questions were a bit strange, it felt like they were skewed. I prefer quizzes like isidewith.

    I was a bit surprised by where I was on the scale.
     
  7. Quiddity

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    I'd add that many questions, like the one above, presuppose a certain government to be compared to. Someone living in a country with more rigid mores on sexuality might disagree, whilst still holding a conservative position in a general sense.

    Also:

    wtf is that even supposed to assess? How crazy you are?


    Economic Left/Right: -1.13
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33


    But I really don't think this test is at all useful.

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    Their 2016 election writeup was putrid. Here it is in full Berniebro glory:

    Despite most polls indicating that Bernie Sanders would fare significantly better than Clinton against Trump, the party clearly wanted Hillary. This surely suggests that when push comes to shove, the Democratic establishment would prefer Hillary to lose the presidency than Sanders to win it. On the other hand, a large section of the GOP mainstream is probably uncomfortable enough with their blustering billionaire to swing behind Hillary — but never Sanders.

    It remains a mystery to us why Sanders chose to describe himself — incorrectly — as a socialist, and in America of all countries. His position is that of a mainstream social democrat — a Keynesian in the mould of the New Deal, and the mainstream left in all other democracies. You wouldn't need a degree in marketing to see that 'social democrat' would be a much more appealing self-description, so why did he insist on such an unhelpful misnomer? It was helpful, though, to his right wing primaries opponent, who was able to present herself as a centrist, between an off the wall socialist and a quasi-fascist. In this most paradox-packed electoral circus, some of Trump's professed economic positions are actually closer to Bernie's than to Hillary's. Trump’s extremism is on the social scale rather than the economic one. Like Sanders — and unlike Clinton — Trump supported a decent minimum wage from the start, wants free education in state universities, has supported universal health care, consistently opposed the Transpacific Partnership Agreement and wants more bank regulation. Considering the cosy relationship that the Clintons and Trump have enjoyed until almost yesterday (reflected by Trump’s generous support for both Hillary’s senatorial campaigns and the Clinton Foundation) the mercurial Donald's differences may be less than they presently appear. Is it beyond all possibility that a Trump 'bi-partisan' presidency might include a role for his old friend Hillary?

    Sanders now unequivocally supports the Democratic nominee, yet his positions are actually far closer to those of Jill Stein, leader of the Greens. The party that Bernie barely belongs to is apparently more important than the principles that he's passionately espoused for so long. In the twilight of his political career Sanders might have taken a bolder move than merely conforming to the expectations of ideologically arthritic liberals who will settle for a lesser-of-two-evils electoral exercise, as they have done for decades. Instead Sanders wants to rally his impressive legion of supporters behind a candidate representing the very things that they've been consistently revolting against! Was he so terrified by the prospect of a Trump presidency that he dumped the chance to strike a real blow against the one percent by joining Stein and launching the most formidable third party challenge in decades? Or might he have been a Judas sheep all along? Clinton can now be expected to toss a few crumbs to the Sandernistas in an attempt to prevent them bolting to the Greens. Whatever she says about issues like the minimum wage, the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, fracking and Medicare between now and November is unlikely to be honoured in office.

    Even if she wanted to break the habit of a career and significantly swing towards the 99 percent, her donors like Walmart, McDonalds, Wall Street and so many others simply wouldn't permit it.
    Are the fat cat vulgarian and the hawkish pin-up girl of Wall Street really the finest minds and noblest characters that America could come up with for its highest office? Identity politics will, again, triumph. We’ve had a black leader. Now it will be cool to have a woman, right? Thinking progressives, however, might reflect on the uncomfortable truth that a President Trump would be relentlessly scrutinised, criticised and checked not only by the Democrats, but also by many in his own party. Conversely, a Democratic president, ultimately more different in style than substance, would implement a largely Republican agenda in all but name and get a relatively easy ride. Haven't the last eight years of neo-conservatism and Democratic deference brought the country too close already to a one-party state masquerading as a two-party state?

    Like one line is spent on "Trump is bad". If we ignore the Greens/Third-Party fetishization for a moment, the underlying message is an absurdly pro-Trump "Trumps a bit of a joke, but he's played the populist fiddle anti-establishment, whilst Hillary is the devil".

    It triggered me so hard.
     
  8. Oment

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    I loved the one party system statement-question. Yes, only having one party will inevitably remove the annoyances of having to compromise and so on. Was this a question?

    I'd post a picture, but Firefox crashed on me. Just imagine Nemrut's picture, except like 0.5 points more up/right, and since we're borrowing stuff anyway, I'm seconding Lindsey's comment about the thing leaning me a lot more Libertarian than I probably am.
     
  9. Genghiz Khan

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    I'd expected myself more right wing than I am. Economically.
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  10. GiantMonkeyMan

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    Economic Left/Right: -7.63
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.79

    Yeah the test and the questions are awkward as hell at times.
     
  11. Darth_Revan

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    The test isn't stellar, it was developed at least a decade ago.

    Pew used to have a really good exam with more than 200 questions, but they ditched it in favor of one with 23...I guess because people didn't want to spend too much time on it.

    Mostly I think this one is useful to see how people change, but as has been pointed out, the questions don't lend themselves to consistent interpretation.
     
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  12. Hopper

    Hopper Second Year

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  14. Xepheria

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    Economic Left/Right: -7.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13

    And 8values:

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    Liberal socialist - pretty spot on I'd say.
     
  15. vlad

    vlad Seventh Year Prestige

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    The 8 value test annoyed me. I am in favor of Swiss-style hedgehog: strong army but anti-interventionist. This made me hawkish.
     
  16. Xiph0

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    What would you say changed your mind on free markets the most since last time? 2008?
     
  17. vlad

    vlad Seventh Year Prestige

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    Combination of things. Pragmatically, that the free market is a theoretical state at the best of times and it is idiotic to uncompromisingly support a system that doesn't actually exist, and never can or will.

    Ideologically, that free markets are not an end in and of themselves. Rather, they are a tool to be used to generate the outcome (the society) that a given people want to achieve. When a free market fails to produce the result or in fact acts in opposition to it, then the answer is to use a different tool, not to insist that the tool is perfect and the product needs to conform itself.

    As a specific example, the free market suggests that a corporation - despite being a product of a state charter and by no means a necessary way of conducting business - has no obligation to that nation or its citizens in return for the legal privileges obtained. Increasingly, real world events suggest to me that this is bullshit.
     
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  18. Joe's Nemesis

    Joe's Nemesis High Score: 2,058 Prestige

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    Your Political Compass

    Economic Left/Right: 4.5
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.1
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    And yeah, stupid questions.

    For instance, the "it's okay for a woman to have a career as long as being homemaker is her first priority" or something like that. Seriously? It has nothing to do with political beliefs. Sexism exists across the board.

    Not only that, but I answered Strongly Agree because I feel it is true for BOTH the man and the woman. However, there was no counter-question for men to balance it out.

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    Disagree a tad on this one... I'm actually a bit stronger on might, but it's close enough. Of course, I believe peace comes through strength, so...
     
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  19. Hawkin

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    First time doing this. Not surprise by the result in the least.

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  20. Marsupial

    Marsupial Death Eater DLP Supporter

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    Your Political Compass

    Economic Left/Right: -8.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.38

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    -7.38 Left, -3.44 Libertarian in 2008
    -6.50 Left, -2.21 Libertarian in 2009
    -8.75 Left, -2.31 Libertarian in 2010

    I think I've been consistently really fucking left wing.

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