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Yudkowsky drops his mask

Discussion in 'Hall of Shame' started by NoxedSalvation, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. MoreWrong

    MoreWrong Raptured to Hell

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    Did you make that up there on the spot, or are you the Lord of all fanfiction?
     
  2. tragicmat1

    tragicmat1 Death Eater

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    No you shithead. It's common sense.
     
  3. Fiat

    Fiat The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    It's much more likely to be based on a fear of WB/FF.net reprisal than an actual belief that he's wrong. If enough people complain, someone will probably do something as a response and he doesn't want it to happen. His fanfiction has brought him more mainstream attention than all his Friendly AI proselytizing combined, and nearly as much money in days as he made in an entire summer. He has to protect it at all costs.

    Of course, most of us who complained probably linked screencaps anyway, so it's a moot point.
     
  4. Castiel

    Castiel Headmaster

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    Fixed that for you.
     
  5. Atomicwalrus

    Atomicwalrus Fourth Year

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    I wouldn't say his the lord but if you even take a casual glance at his current story I would at the very least make him the Duke of fanfiction.
     
  6. MoreWrong

    MoreWrong Raptured to Hell

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    Is it now? I am of the belief that anyone producing a creative work ought to be able to make money from it. Anyone who thinks otherwise has boxed themself into a moral corner where they think all fanfiction will fall apart if even a cent is made for any organisation for any purpose in any way possible.
     
  7. kalespr

    kalespr Fourth Year

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    Furthermore WB has already set a precedent for being rather aggressive in defending their intellectual properties, across a wide spectrum of medium. Even if they did eventually back off, in regards to HP fan sites.
     
  8. Grinning Lizard

    Grinning Lizard Supreme Mugwump

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    This is actually what convinced me it was him. Why on earth would he log in if he wasn't going to post? He has a seperate machine on in the background with the LessWrong account logged in, 'viewing' the thread. It will even be pretty much exactly as pathetic as it sounds.

    He's had to resort to referring to himself in the third person because he's actually transcended his own ego. True story.
     
  9. Speakers

    Speakers Backtraced

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    Actually, he hasn't deleted it. It shouldn't matter all that much until(if) FFN takes action.

    And Santi, while I may enjoy reading your fic, I disagree with your sweeping statements there. Anything fan generated = no monetary gain whatsoever is absurd. The fact that DLP itself is funded by donations should make that clear.
     
  10. TheWiseTomato

    TheWiseTomato Tactical Tomato DLP Supporter

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    Unless, you know, someone else owns the damn thing.
     
  11. Fiat

    Fiat The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    ...You genuinely believe that one should be capable of profiting from derivative fiction? Seriously? Are you on crack?
     
  12. MoreWrong

    MoreWrong Raptured to Hell

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    If JKR had written MoR I would have bought it. She did not.

    Neither did WB.

    It is a derivative work which means that only certain components of it are owned by someone else.

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    Yes.

    Yes.

    No. Derivative works can have amazing amounts of creativity poured into them. Many of the posters in this thread have written well-reviewed fics, and they ought to be able to earn money for their work. It is sad that they are held back by copyright law.
     
  13. T3t

    T3t Purple Beast of DLP Prestige DLP Supporter

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    Which means it's legal to seek a licensing agreement from the IP holders. Until then, you can't try making money off of it. We're not talking morality here so much as what's legal and not.
     
  14. Fatality

    Fatality Unspeakable

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    Er, what are you talking about? It's still up there for me.

    And dhulli, DLP receiving donations is completely different. Donations in this case aren't paying for a Harry Potter FanFic - they're paying to keep the site running. No copyright involved at all.
     
  15. MoreWrong

    MoreWrong Raptured to Hell

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    That is the current situation, yes.
     
  16. Red Aviary

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  17. MoreWrong

    MoreWrong Raptured to Hell

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    Donations to SIAI keep their site running and keep their events and research programs running. Yudkowsky is not employed to write fanfiction.
     
  18. JWH

    JWH Unspeakable

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    Dura lex sed lex.



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    The laws in place represent the only system that has legal relevance in the USA.
     
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  19. MoreWrong

    MoreWrong Raptured to Hell

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    Thank you for your opinion.

    Do you honestly believe that the laws in place right now represent the only system that would work?
     
  20. kalespr

    kalespr Fourth Year

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    Asking for donations to SIAI is not the issue. Using fanfiction as incentive to donate is.