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  1. Disquieted
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    WitchHunt 9

    Today, my goal is just to play the game with the energy I have. I don't expect to be operating at full kindness for at least another year. I want to remember to at least have reasonable expectations for myself, and then proceed to not meet them, because sometimes, I, a wizard, views orbs as a nuisance and not an item of privilege. A few things. I did really suspect Dels. Thankfully I could lock it all in my QT instead of posting it in the thread and being factually wrong all the time,...
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 26, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    We don't have to mechanically lynch a villager if we can lynch a witch instead. Both sides of the criteria are important though.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 25, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Vote: shadow I'll be honest, I would like to do more but I have to be fair to myself and say that I'm prolonging things for the sake of the inevitable, I'm not doing more work today. I have a few concerns with shadow's posting today in terms of "could he be a villager", but, yeah. I don't have enough effort to talk about it.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 25, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Someone else check in and say to hammer, I’ll post my vote via mobile. I strongly dislike quickhammering on principle. --- Post automerged --- Wait. 8 to hard lynch? What?
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 25, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
  5. Disquieted
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    WitchHunt 9

    Yep.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 24, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Few things I want to concentrate on when I get back here: - Vaimes is right, but we can take it one step further. If Newcomb isn't a witch, Newcomb fading a kill is literally the only way that witches could have failed their kill, and Newcomb would have had to choose Odd (though my understanding is a village Gambler always chooses odd anyways). Personally I'm not of the opinion that witches decided to push Newcomb for that, it's a very bizarre move that a witch with too much information...
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 24, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Shadow, why do you think it's M+7? Or why don't you think it's anyone else?
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 23, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Jari put Umami up in townreads really early, if I remember correctly. Tom had a few readlists, maybe one could see an oracle green in his Day 1 posting.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 22, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Dels, your reasoning made no sense. It still makes no sense, and I stand by it. So I don't really care. Dels has been very free-flowy this entire game. He's moved his suspicions towards where he feels where it's correct and moved where he wants it. I can't tell you whether that's scummy or townie and more of a indication of his mindset this month. What I can tell you is why he's on top of every lynch wagon - it's because he ends up seeing the reasoning or talking himself into it.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 21, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    My assumption was it proves that Cobalt is in fact a villager and they tossed oracle. What it means for shadow's alignment is too hard to tell for me. Perhaps I'm unintelligent.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 21, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    @shadowlancerx who's the last scum --- Post automerged --- Yeah reading through Day 1 in its entirety I'm swinging pretty hard on the shadow side of things. Of particular not-obvious interest is that Manasi really didn't care that day which really leads to both wagons being w/w. I'm done for the day, catch you tomorrow for Day 2 or something. Don't really feel like quoting anything but there's a few weirdly linked progressions on shadow by 2/3 witches that I can't remember the names of....
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 21, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    thanks newcomb
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 21, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Musketeer is a day kill.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 21, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I don't remember, he could have been. In general you should take everything I report with a grain of salt, heh. It's the structure of the reads though, they're very open and without much explanation that they don't justified at all to be partnering reads.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 21, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I'm reading through the thread from the start again and it still feels like it's a choice of two people, shadow and Dels. There's a lot of insidious w/w interactions between the flipped witches and shadow. Maybe it's Vaimes but a lot of of what he's said feels more in line with what I have expected from town!Vaimes, though I don't have a lot of interactive experience with him, and his (town)reads on Jarizok and Manasi are very strange-ish from a witch.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 21, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I was of the opinion that shadow's bus on tom doesn't make any sense. In a standard sense that's true when he's the last witch remaining. We had a long argument about this topic, Dels and I. To be fair, I still stand by my words at the time. There are two explanations for this, though: - shadow believed that Cobalt would retract his claim at any point in time, for short-term reactions. - shadow was hoping that Cobalt would never retract and was hoping to never ruffle any feathers until he...
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 21, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I changed my mind.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 21, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I don't think there's any way witch!shadow wins this, all of us are probably in agreement that he needs to die. I don't think anyone else has proper tinfoils and short of killing Newcomb and Umami and hoping Cobalt gets sidetracked with other things and/or I grow a pair and actually start casing Dels he's probably just dying here in all worlds. (He doesn't even have a choice, nominally Cobalt would have trained DOB on him and he would have to play a game of coinflips to kill Vaimes and I...
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 21, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I'm going to go with the definitions of what ifs. Newcomb is always town here, a lot of how he's presented himself has been town and unrelatedly he made a bunch of not w/w posts with Manasi. I'm settled here. For M Plus 7 to be scum here he would have to deliberately bus Jarizok. At this point I would be wary of this clear but it is certainly some sort of clear. And given that Kai was town I'm very wary of doubting another one of these clears. Vaimes would have to be bussed by Jarizok...
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 21, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    ...what? What w/w wagons? --- Post automerged --- How many games of M Plus 7 have you seen?
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 21, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    The answer from me is that I don’t know.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 19, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    It may be difficult for Vaimes to die to rolekill, for what it’s worth, considering only Vaimes knows his exact role. Just noting.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 19, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Kai isn’t in the PoE, Cobalt. Kai is, essentially, dead. --- Post automerged --- Other than that I believe I don’t really care either way whether LC activates today on Manasi or tomorrow, so, yeah, seems good.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 19, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    We could use this time to figure out who the last witch is. Generally quick lynches are not recommended.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 19, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    How is it a total waste again? I don’t understand your reasoning, it’s irrelevant whether he triggers now or at the start of Day.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 19, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I think I should have been more clear; when I was referencing Undertaker I also included Gravedigger. And I wish I could be as certain about muzjik. --- Post automerged --- Amusing.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 19, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Agreed. Vote Manasi
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 19, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    You should think about it more. I’ve lost to a witch Undertaker and it was appropriately humiliating. Just because someone has the Undertaker role shouldn’t preclude them from being a witch. --- Post automerged --- Since I’m talking about personal matters - in case you haven’t caught on, you may already know me as the only Australian moderator on Mafia Universe.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 18, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    That seems very fatalistic, Dels. I don’t believe that.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 18, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
  30. Disquieted
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    WitchHunt 9

    If we don’t kill Manasi today we could theoretically lose to a last witch of muzjik or Umami.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 18, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I’m not here to baby you, Cobalt. You refuse to listen that Kai is already dead and the fact you don’t realise that is no-one’s fault but yours. You can spend as many hours on the game as you want but no, it doesn’t make you right. It sucks. Oh well. But you’re still wrong unless you can explain otherwise. Both of you need to spend one paragraph to explain why what you’re doing is right in clear mechanical terms or you’re screaming at a cloud, and I don’t have the time or patience to kindly...
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 18, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Cobalt. It. Does. Not. Matter. Kai is a dead man walking. He can’t do manipulation of any sort because he’s going to die before we reach LYLO, or we’re screwed because the team is Manasi/muz/Umami/Kai. “But Kai is trying to kill me -“ doesn’t matter, he’s still dead eventually, he can’t win. “He’s trying to avoid triggering-“ like you said, we’re not fucking idiots, we’ll get him to trigger. It’s not like we lose the game if he’s a witch and triggers today. So unless you can find a...
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 18, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Is there any reason why we shouldn't LC or DOB now?
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 18, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    You also disincentive witches from killing muz because you can't kill yourself, theoretically. I do not understand this point. Why are we aiming for muzjik's death? What sort of information are we looking for, Umami? No matter what, muzjik is likely going to get no information.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 18, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I have studied this decently and I understand the concept. When do you use your LC?
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 18, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I want people to respond very succinctly to this post as to what we should be doing by the end of day. Currently, I have no idea what each of you are trying to logically put forward and I would like to see how exactly that works. I have been slowly picking apart the gamestate right now and I see no reason why the LC should activate right now, or that Manasi should be lynched today. The answer to this question is not "Kai is the witch", because Cobalt, your wall sucks and I am not convinced....
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 18, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Also because he wants the nurse to nurse a musketeers, rand given to Newcomb?
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 18, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    We are all disquieted at heart, Cobalt. --- Post automerged --- (I’ll read the case in my off time)
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I agree with that. --- Post automerged --- Honestly I don’t understand the rush, Cobalt. Kai isn’t going anywhere, this day is going to end up as a Loose Cannon or shadow judges Kai out of the game if necessary. Relax a bit. There’s no need for such emotional threats.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    For the record I have had reasonable time to sit down and think about this and yes, Loose Cannon should activate. I'm not sure on Manasi or on someone else, though. Kai's got some good analysis, I guess. I sleep. --- Post automerged --- Every time I attempt to type a sentence I feel more and more internally frustrated.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I deeply care about the outcome of this contest.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I imagine Kai has activated already.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    You arrive at Dark Lord Potter. "Time for a massclaim" announces the attendant. The game goes dark. The angels crashes into the ether without a sound. The angels do not return. Nothing ever returns. --- Post automerged --- Witchhunt tip: think of your role like a sword. Do you know how to use a sword? I didn't think so. Put it down. Call Newcomb.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
  44. Disquieted
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    WitchHunt 9

    Ok.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    haha, mechanics.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
  46. Disquieted
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    WitchHunt 9

    Makes sense.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I guess.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    Think he's given up after seeing Cobalt retract his claim?
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    I mean, he was happy Day 1 and did somewhat talk. Day 2 he got new life due to his greenpeek. Here tonally it feels like he. Exists. I dunno, Newcomb, you might be right but from my perspective of not having played Day 1 and 2 he doesn't feel inclined to do anything after we've at least caught three scum, probably dead. And yeah perhaps I need relative measures.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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    WitchHunt 9

    All of us have gotten into some indepth discussion this phase except for three people. One is Manasi. The other is M+. Final is shadow.
    Post by: Disquieted, Apr 17, 2019 in forum: Little Italy
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