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  1. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I saw in scumchat that that wasn’t intentional on your part, but it was masterful. That alone would’ve made me never vote you.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 17, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Hahahahaha Cuthalion townconfirmed lol
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 5, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  3. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    What do you call near eod? It’s 4 minutes to deadline lol
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 5, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    3 you 3 waco 1 Keldeo I think. Are Grape/Cobalt still scum if Keldeo flips town?
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 5, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Good timing, you’re the leading wagon
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 5, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    As to his own statement, sloth should be reading iso’s from grape and Cobalt now.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 5, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Lol m7/Keldeo, never turn on each other please :)
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 5, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I’m an almost total stranger to these fast games. Is it normal for the lynch to change in the last hour? also, 1am here. Might fall asleep.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 5, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I think we have to resolve Sloth.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 5, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Sloth must feel that he’s getting lynched. So what is he even doing? Why put so much effort in a case when you’re mafia and dying? Is it last minute distancing? Or does he really think that out of all possible people we’re gonna lynch Keldeo? gah the wine.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I’m here. And I’m impressed with that Keldeo case from Sloth :/
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Dude those are the exact 3 miner had as scum yesterDay
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Sloth / Waco / Fluff / Cuthalion 3 out of those 4 I think.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  14. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Deadline is 2AM for me by the way, I won’t be around most probably. @Sloth: you want me to take the lead but you asked miner if he would let the gunshot be up to a vote. We’re both confirmed town. What’s the difference? If Sloth flips mafia, take a good look at Fluff please. Using a buddy to place a nowhere-vote really is a typical thing to do. (I’m pretty sure I’m not seeing toMorrow)
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I get that idea, and it has crossed my mind, believe it or not. But I don’t think it’s a risk mafia is willing to take. I wish I had some meta on Miner, but I don’t. He strikes me as impulsive though, I think he’s a bad choice if you’re counting on re-evaluating?
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  16. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Replied to the wrong person lol. Mist be the wine. I was talking about following the lead. He didn’t say that to miner. He does to me. Pocket denied.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Lol guess who was pushing Grape toDay. Hint: it starts with an S and ends. --- Post automerged --- Gah I really dislike this forum. (not the people in it, just the weird shenanigans and what the forum does with posts I’m making) --- Post automerged --- So yeh Sloth was all over Grape while apparently town reading me but ignoring the fact that Grape must be town because miner got the gun. --- Post automerged --- It’s cute. When miner was confirmed town, he didn’t ask that.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    @Sloth who is mafia? Convince me. --- Post automerged --- And sorry @Miner I kind of felt it coming. I’ll never understand why, but I knew I was going to get heat when I started talking about the gun use as soon as I posted it. I’m kind of happy that you listened to me and shot outside of your 3, but well... I was hoping you would go for Sloth. --- Post automerged --- I think the scumteam were mainly counting on him shooting Grape. I need to look back at Day start and see if someone was...
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    So @Waco you think ignoring the gun going to miner and just let him shoot one of the people mafia knew he would shoot is the correct town approach then?
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I’m not fully townclearing Keldeo and Seratin, they are my lean towns. As I said, I think miner is wrong about at least 2 of his scum reads, maybe all 3. And I don’t think it’s impossible that it is all 3. Especially because they chose miner.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Not much, no. I got townvibes early on, but again an old read now. And apparently I’ve been misreading stuff she said. Now? You’re probbaly right. YesterDay EoD? I had Sloth/tom/Fluff. Miner had Grape/Keldeo/Seratin. Completely different names. I think chances were good that that world existed. --- Post automerged --- Falling asleep now. I’ll do some iso’s tomorrow.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I don’t like talking about connections without flips before lylo, I don’t think I’ve ever mentioned what I saw there. Fluff made a weirdly timed vote on Sloth, which is a typical “I don’t want to be seen voting town eod” vote.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Fluff because of the connection to Sloth. I will have to re-evaluate that read if Sloth flips town, but I’m pretty sure he won’t. Cobalt because miner had Seratin on his list yesterDay.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 4, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  24. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Mafia dies. Shooting town kills you instead if that town.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 3, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    No, that’s why that’s why they are there. My reads on them are old. I will make work of that tomorrow.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 3, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I guess Grape can weigh in, but I can tell you that if you’ve seen me tunnel in a mafia game, that is because I was trying to mimick my town play.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 3, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I am around but not much longer. Getting close to 1am here.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 3, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  28. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Town Grape M7 Keldeo Seratin (Cobalt) Cuthalion Waco Fluff Sloth Scum
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 3, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  29. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    It’s giving me a hard time. My guess is that the feeling I get from your posts is me having trouble with your play style rather than you coming from a mafia mindset. I know I have played with you before, but I can’t remember how you play. --- Post automerged --- I guess that also explains what M7 was missing from me with Keldeo. I see him as mechanically town and then get scum vibes. That’s weird to respond to.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 3, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  30. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Nice. Now compare those names to miner’s scumreads before getting the gun... I’m pretty sure my assessment is correct.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 3, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  31. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Emotion or urgency? Why do you need those? Neither am I. He doesn't feel like he's trying to reach conclusions. He actually feels like he's town reading me with what he posts, and then puts me on the bottom of his readslist. It's icky. Because Keldeo asked me about that. Are you telling me miner was not a possible mislynch then? I was probably wrong about tom. I had him as quite likely scum and I thought that was a general feel of the thread, which it apparently wasn't. But I'm sure I'm...
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 3, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  32. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    You should read that paragraph again. I’s Umami he’s townreading there and he agrees with them. You’re asking me a lot off stuff about my reads and somehow it feels hollow. Like you don’t really care about my answers.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 3, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Why are you considering being scum yourself as an option Grape? lol And it’s not all wine. I’m pretty sure scum isn’t going to go all “let’s pick someone who is scum reading us and convince him he’s wrong”. That’s just ridiculous play. Miner must be wrong about at least 2 of his top suspects.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 2, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Miner I don’t think scum would give you the gun if those reads were correct. It costs them a mislynch candidate and very possibly one of their own. That makes no sense.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 2, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    No I didn’t think it was w/w theatre from Grape. Tom is considered one of the strongest players on mtgs. And Grape (no offense) sees himself as mediocre. I would be extremely surprised if scum!Grape would gun for tom off the bat. --- Post automerged --- Seratin is 286. I mainly liked the Umami read there, but looking back at it now, Seratin lands on Gemma / tom at the end of that post. Which at the time I thought was 1 out of 2, but now we know they’re both town. So yeh, not solid towncore...
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 2, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I don’t think there’s a point in timing that shot? Just when he’s ready. why were you looking for pre-flip connections anyways? Vote Sloth --- Post automerged --- Gemma wrote things while she was thinking them. She evolved naturally and wrote it all out. And she voiced my thoughts about fonti. Grape seemed to really believe in his early tom read and scum!Grape would not risk tom’s pushback. Waco’s reaction to Grape felt natural. Looking back at the post where I marked Seratin as town, I’m...
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 2, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I love this automerge thing. This actually confirms my Sloth read more. tom also mentioned he did not want to lynch Grape. So this would mean, if mafia thinks the way I think they do, that Sloth is mafia and at least two out of Keldeo, Grape, Seratim town, likely even all 3. That towncore I was talking about was Gemma(miner) / Grape / Waco / Seratim / Osi. I will look into eod next because I’m upset y’all lynched Osi. --- Post automerged --- I don’t think there’s a point in timing that...
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 2, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  38. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Yeh miner has always been in my town block because of Gemma. The reason I start reading without flips is that I can detect town better without knowing them. I use mindmeld as a tool, and if you have knowledge about alignments, mindmeld doesn’t work. I’ll get to Sloth later when I’m on my laptop. Now I’m going to have a look at tom and miner. Tom was a possible mislynch, so mafia must have been afraid of his reads somehow. And miner has to be wrong in his to receive the gun. I’m going to...
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 2, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  39. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Sorry I disappeared yesterDay. My husband can be a big drama queen sometimes. Things kind of exploded. But all is fine again now :) just woke up, gonna do my caffeine/nicotine and then dig in.
    Post by: Rhand, Apr 2, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  40. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I had a virtual café night with friends and woke up late with a hangover lol. I’ll read up when the painkiller kicks in. It’s amazing how well that worked. You should all try it :) --- Post automerged --- Why? It's a tone vs facts thing. I like his tone, he feels pure. But I don't trust that without having any meta on him. What I don't like is that I keep disagreeing with him. His reads are mostly different from my own and that bugs me. @M Plus 7 can you elaborate on why you have such a...
    Post by: Rhand, Mar 31, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  41. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I think so? Not sure. But the general idea was to reach a lynch. I'm quite convinced he could have pushed it on Mine. The problem is he didn't even try.
    Post by: Rhand, Mar 30, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  42. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    I’ve seen things that I like and (a bit more) things that I dislike in M7. I would place him towards the scummy side of null.
    Post by: Rhand, Mar 30, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    So. Sloth. @everyone please look at sloth's ISO. Take a good look at the oldest page. Sloth is posting mainly fluff, throwing some softball questions and keeping any reads he has for himself. This is textbook scum play: look active, look involved, but wait out how the thread evolves before committing yourself to reads. When he does commit, he votes Grape and calls Umami town, right before the Gemma/fonti stuff happens. You would think that he then starts grilling his suspect, but what he...
    Post by: Rhand, Mar 30, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
  44. Rhand
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    No, are you tom?
    Post by: Rhand, Mar 30, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Vote Slothful I’m caught up with D1. I have a pretty big town core. I read a big part of Day 1 without knowing the flips, and I am amazed how strongly Fonti was being town cleared and how Umami became a wagon. I had a light scum read on Fonti and a very strong town read on Umami. With the Gemma / Miner slot being massively scumread, the Umami push almost must have a mafia near it’s base, I’m thinking tom. When I finish my catch up I will case Sloth. I already had a scumread on him, and...
    Post by: Rhand, Mar 30, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Is an aggressive tone part of Sloth’s normal meta?
    Post by: Rhand, Mar 30, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    300 posts read but too tired to continue now. Will read on tomorrow.
    Post by: Rhand, Mar 29, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #3: Desperate times, desperate measures

    Hi, replacing Fire here. I’m from mtgs, never played here before. lots of familiar faces though. Is tom the mtgs tomsloger? --- Post automerged --- I will catch up tomorrow. Almost 11pm here now. --- Post automerged --- Why do I have to see that word every time I play with you? Lol. It’s the ugliest word in the universe. I just got told deadline is 48ish hours, so started the catchup now.
    Post by: Rhand, Mar 29, 2020 in forum: Little Italy
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