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Incantations as verbs

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bishop Bone, Jun 28, 2022.

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Can incantations be used as a verb?

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  1. Bishop Bone

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    Is there a reason for using them this way? I've been seeing it used more lately and it's quite confusing. As far as I'm aware every spell has a common name as well that people use to refer to it. It's mostly the killing curse. Harry Avada Kedavra'd Voldemort. It's starting to become a pet peeve of mine.
     
  2. aAlouda

    aAlouda High Inquisitor

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    Using incantations to refer to spells is fine, hapens often enough in the books, but actually using it as a verb itself isn't.

    Like you can say 'I used the Avada Kedavra curse on him' or "I used the killing curse on him", but not "I Avada Kedavra'd him".

    Though that doesen't mean no character can use it like that, people using words differently than they're supposed to is a thing after all, and lanuage does evolve. But I'd personally still find it a little annoying.
     
  3. zugrian

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    'Lockhart Obliviated himself' works fine as far as I'm concerned. It's not something that bugs me nearly as much as other stuff I run into regularly.
     
  4. ScottPress

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    I think this one's canon, no? Ministry has obliviators, non the memory charm squad.
     
  5. aAlouda

    aAlouda High Inquisitor

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    Obliviators as term for members of the Accidental Magic Reversal Squad is canon, but the name of the spell is never used as a verb.
     
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    Yeah, and look what's quoted in my post. Just the instance of the memory charm. And I wrote "this one". This specific one.
     
  7. haphnepls

    haphnepls Seventh Year

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    I don't think obliviated is ever used, though it does roll better off the tongue than other more popular ones such as imperiused or cruciod. I took a quick look and it's always his memory charm backfired or her memories were modified etc.

    So I think you'd be better off avoiding them altogether in writing for the sake of consistency alone. Even Obliviator as a noun is more of a exception, really. The number of incantations used in ff is way over the top sometimes when you look how rarely they're used in the books. Well, rarely as opposed to ff, anyway.

    So as for the reason, it's either lazy writing, or people thinking it sounds cool, no idea, all I know is that I as well am not a fan.
     
  8. Thaumologist

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    As always, I was trying to think of real world similarities of this, to see what popped to mind. After all, you don't say "he was glocked to death".
    Although "machine-gunned" is a term I'm sure I've heard

    Maybe not always an exact match, but websites, especially now that the web is much more centralized. You don't always look something up, you 'google it' (or 'bing it', maybe?). You can tweet something out. I've been asked "Are you okay if I facebook this pic?". So I can certainly see some spell names being used this way, obliviated sounds quite a lot smoother than memory charmed, for instance. But crucioed sounds (and looks) a bit of a mess.

    Another thing to consider is genericide - where the brand name becomes the thing name. Jacuzzi. Hoover. Photoshop. So Mister Curse invented the Cruciatus Curse, slapped his name on it, and now all powerful dark magic is known as a curse because he was an absolute shit.
     
  9. aAlouda

    aAlouda High Inquisitor

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    That one isn't used either.
    This is how Lochkart's memory charm is talked about in the books
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  10. arkkitehti

    arkkitehti High Inquisitor

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    From DH, chapter 10, the trio discussing what Regulus might have done with the locket:

    So yes, using the incantation Obliviate as a verb is canon.
     
  11. Drachna

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    I don't see why they wouldn't slip into colloquial language, though I'd say that it would be taboo to explicitly use dangerous incantations as slang, e.g AK'd instead of Avada Kedavra'd.

    'You should have seen it Draco, he Avada Kedavra'd him so bad that he... Draco, Draco!'
     
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