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Old 08-26-2011, 08:04 PM   #61
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*Autocorrect on the phone changed the author's name to "Yuck Wang." Fiiiiine by me XD
Know how I know you're gay?

At some time in the past you have written "yuck wang" on your phone.
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Old 08-26-2011, 08:08 PM   #62
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Know how I know you're gay?

"Yuck Wang" means something to you (as opposed to assuming I've simply typed "yuck" and "Wang" on separate occasions) - and that something has gay connotations.
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"Yuck, wang!"

As in, "Oh no, Joe, your wang is yucky!"

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I'll send ff.net a report after dinner.

Also, wouldn't it be better to contact Rowling (the person who has final say in what can and can't be written concerning her works) instead of WB (who's lookin' for someone to rape)? If WB does get contacted extensively, chances are they'd go after the community as a whole, regardless of if they have already tried or planned to in the future. A single email from Rowling would get the story pulled, his account banned, and he'd probably feel even worse than shit for getting smacked down by the original author.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
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Fuck it, I reported it to both FF.net AND Warner Brothers. I want FF.Net to remove his account, and because I'm a bastard, I want Warner Brothers to sue his organization for what he's done here. And by "what he's done here," I mean "write MoR."
Hold your horses, and please listen to Grinning Lizard. I dislike MoR for its rather ridiculous interpretation of Harry, but I really don't think succumbing to vehemence is the best option. Violent reports/PMs won't solve anything, since the ff.net admins probably want to wipe their hands clean of any shitstorms. Alerting WB is only worse. I do not want a repeat of Anne Rice.

Think about this rationally (xD) and restrain yourself. I repeat: we don't want another Anne Rice, or a variant thereof. The best option atm seems to be sending carefully worded reports to ff.net, not reviews. We can proceed from there.
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I'd assume that he'd need a highschool diploma/a bachelor's degree to go to grad school.

However, as you're the one with the PhD, I'm inclined to assume that you probably know better than I do about this topic.
It's not unheard of for people with nontraditional schooling to matriculate into graduate school without a high school diploma and/or baccalaureate degree. When I was in physics grad school, I was good friends with two people who had a similar background, both wunderkinds who didn't fit the traditional scholastic mold. Stephen Wolfram (MacArthur Award winner, inventor of the Mathematica software, and Professor of Physics at Caltech at the ripe old age of 20) is perhaps the most famous example in recent years. He and my thesis advisor were classmates at Oxford before Wolfram bailed sans Baccalaureate to enter the graduate program in particle physics at Caltech.

Yudkowsky is no Wolfram (who is?) but he wouldn't exactly be forging new ground were he to go straight to grad school. While I might find him a distasteful personality and while I might doubt that he's anywhere near as smart as he thinks he is*, I won't deny that Yudkowsky is brilliant nonetheless and fully capable of graduate study.

* Something I might suffer from as well.
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What's with these pacifist views that are being propagated by GL?

It's fun to bash deserving LessWrong-like noobs on DLP.
You can read virtually every other post I've ever made to understand how little I'm a pacifist. And I think you missed the 'think about more than yourself' part of everything I have posted thus far in this thread.

Bash him all you like. This is somewhat a seperate issue.
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:15 PM   #68
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Please ignore all the reviews suggesting that my offer to do the moral equivalent of shaving my head on Youtube if a charity meets its donation goals will bring about the downfall of all Harry Potter fandom everywhere. This is not a real backlash. It is being coordinated by a troll forum called Dark Lord Potter, whose shtick is pretending to be snooty exclusive Harry Potter fanfiction critics (yes, really), and which hates hates hates MoR for being higher-status than them. Helping a charity would predictably set them off. And while I do thank everyone who jumped to this fic's defense, having these sorts of arguments in the reviews is not the way I want to increase my review count. Thanks to Dark Lord Potter for helping to keep this fic #1, though.

(Dark Lord Potter specializes in concern trolling, messages which start out looking serious and helpful to lure you into the start of the argument. Be extremely wary if you get a private message suggesting that your fic has promise but could benefit from the critique at Dark Lord Potter. I got one of those early on and then later discovered that the sender, Silens Cursor, had been bragging in the DLP chatrooms about how he was going to bring me to the DLP forums so they could all bash on MoR and crush my soul. Yes, really.)

Needless to say if anyone at Fanfiction.net or JKR & co. does object, the request will be immediately removed with apologies, but I see nothing in FF's guidelines or any published comment by JKR which indicates that it should be prohibited. JKR said no commercialization, which if it doesn't prohibit FF running ads, certainly doesn't prohibit accelerating a publication schedule if a charity meets donation goals. FF's Community Guidelines say nothing on the subject at all.
Jesusmotherfukkinchrist, he's like a self-opening pinata.

I am honestly at a loss for words. Crazy comes to mind. Deluded and narcissistic also pop up. But somehow I don't think they quite describe the level of bugfuck-insane Fantasyville this guy lives in. It's like he skews everything in his mind so that he's cast as the victim.

Never read his story, have no inclination to read his story, and I certainly want nothing to do with MoR after reading this.

Edit for Sesc: :P

Edit 2: If this is his version of rationality, I'd wager his grasp of the real world is tenuous at best. That's not exactly a glowing recommendation of his own work.
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:18 PM   #69
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LessWrong felt he needed to review his own story.

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Please ignore all the reviews suggesting that my offer to do the equivalent of shaving my head on Youtube if a charity meets its donation goals will bring about the downfall of all Harry Potter fandom everywhere. These reviews are from a troll forum called Dark Lord Potter, whose shtick is pretending to be snooty exclusive Harry Potter fanfiction critics (yes, really), and which hates hates hates MoR for being higher-status than them. Helping a charity would predictably set them off.

(Dark Lord Potter specializes in concern trolling, messages which start out looking serious and helpful to lure you into the start of the argument. Be extremely wary if you get a polite-looking private message suggesting that your fic has promise but could benefit from the critique at Dark Lord Potter. I got one of those early on and then later discovered that the sender, Silens Cursor, had been bragging in the DLP chatrooms about how he was going to bring me to the DLP forums so they could all bash on MoR and crush my soul. Yes, really.)

I'm grateful to everyone who jumped to this fic's defense - thank you - but your previous defenses should be enough, and having these sorts of arguments in the reviews is not the way I want to increase my review count. Thanks to Dark Lord Potter for helping to keep this fic #1, though.

(Needless to say if anyone at Fanfiction dot net or JKR & co. does object, the request will be immediately removed with apologies, but I see nothing in FF's guidelines or any published comment by JKR which indicates that it should be prohibited. JKR said no commercialization, which if it doesn't prohibit FF running ads, certainly doesn't prohibit accelerating a publication schedule if a charity meets donation goals. FF's Community Guidelines say nothing on the subject at all.)
There are six mentions of DLP or Dark Lord Potter within the four paragraphs. Thanks awfully for the advertisement. And now I'll report the story for no other reason than that this is one of the more funny things we've done lately.

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Wow, that's hilarious. Anybody who cares to come over here and look will see that he's misinterpreting at best and outright lying at worst; we're hardly conducting a smear campaign and his institute is not a "charity".

And oh yes, DLP is apparently the root of all evil - seriously, "concern trolling"? What a retarded accusation. Why would we want to bother with bad fics in the first place? That's just beyond stupid.
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:25 PM   #71
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I don't no how he can sit on his high horse and talk about how were bad mouthing him for helping a charity, I mean its not like its trying to cure cancer its a bunch of nerds sitting around talking about how cool it would be if we had AI.
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Is it really a charity? I thought it was just a non-profit, and one is not the other.
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The funny thing is that LessWrong couldn't be More Wrong. The TOS of FF.net clearly states that

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I don't see how that leaves any wiggle room at all for what he does.
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I don't know how he can sit on his high horse and talk about how we're bad mouthing him for helping a charity, I mean it's not like it's trying to cure cancer it's a bunch of nerds sitting around talking about how cool it would be if we had AI.
Ahem.

In any case, I just don't see how bashing him helps anyone: clearly, he's the kind of person who believes any attention is good attention. Thus, the only way to really do anything to him is to ignore him: let the voices of superiority in his head keep him company.

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I think it might be able to get away with being called a charity because it gives away grant money.
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There are legal definitions for a charity, and even if it is (which I doubt) I'm not sure it gives him license to do this anyways.
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Ahem.

In any case, I just don't see how bashing him helps anyone: clearly, he's the kind of person who believes any attention is good attention. Thus, the only way to really do anything to him is to ignore him: let the voices of superiority in his head keep him company.
I think that the entire internet is helped by the removal of his stupid ass and anything he's touched from the history books.
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...I actually feel sort of sorry for him.

He must have some serious mental health issues if he has a superiority complex that large.
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There are legal definitions for a charity, and even if it is (which I doubt) I'm not sure it gives him license to do this anyways.
This. I couldn't just pirate a few thousand copies of a movie and start selling under the excuse that it was for a Charity.

And what he is doing is easily defined as a service. He is writing more and faster for money. I don't think there should be any debate about whether this is illegal or not.

As to why FF.net is allowed to post ads, does anyone know why? I'd assume it's because they're technically not making money from other people's copyrights, just from people visiting their site. I wouldn't say I know a lot about copyright law though - does anyone know for sure?
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FFN posting ads is pretty iffy, I'm pretty sure they're allowed to make enough to cover their costs for hosting etc, but not to actually profit beyond that. I'm not an expert on IP law though so...
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