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Old 11-09-2011, 07:01 PM   #5101
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Go up to the line and use his wand?
Still wouldn't be able to put the paper in the cup. The only reason this worked in canon was because Crouch was not under 17...
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:08 PM   #5102
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Why doesn't he just get someone to enter his name, under a school with no other candidates.
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[Harry] knew next to nothing about this Triwizard Tournament, but the image of him, standing in front of his old peers in Ravenclaw as the Durmstrang champion was intoxicating. He could practically see their shocked faces as he was announced, the most talented student at Durmstrang – a school that far outclassed Hogwarts.
Getting into the tournament is not an end all be all for Harry. One of his chief motivations is to show everyone at Hogwarts just how much better he is than them. He wants everyone to see him as the Durmstrang Champion.

Harry wouldn't consider entering himself under a different school because that's tantamount to admitting he's not good enough to be Durmstrang's champion.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:09 PM   #5103
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Still wouldn't be able to put the paper in the cup. The only reason this worked in canon was because Crouch was not under 17...
Except that if Harry could confound the Goblet, then floating the paper over the line and into it would work.
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Except that if Harry could confound the Goblet, then floating the paper over the line and into it would work.
No, it wouldn't. Confounding the Goblet would only increase his chances (to 100%) of being chosen, he'd still have to place a piece of parchment with his name in it somehow. And we already know that floating it over the line doesn't work.

@Santi: never thought of that, but it makes sense.
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Still wouldn't be able to put the paper in the cup. The only reason this worked in canon was because Crouch was not under 17...
Krum is 17?

I thought Harry would be able to approach the Goblet, since the Age Line is tied to the object itself? If not, then the aging potion would at least allow him to get close enough, perhaps at night using stealth, to Confound it and have a friend enter his name.

But Santi's point stands above that.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:38 PM   #5106
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Krum is 17?

I thought Harry would be able to approach the Goblet, since the Age Line is tied to the object itself? If not, then the aging potion would at least allow to get close enough, perhaps at night using stealth, to Confound it and have a friend enter his name.

But Santi's point stands above that.
Fred & George managed to get close enough to the Goblet to throw their names in (although they were spat out later), so if it was Krum who entered Harry's name after Harry confounded the Goblet it could work, I think. But that way you'd have to dismiss Santi's point.

All canon champions (except Harry) were 17 at the point of entering their names.
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The only way I could see to refute Santi's point in this would be to argue that as long as Harry was actually in the tournament, magically bound to compete and all, with a chance at victory, he wouldn't care what anyone thought, as long as he knew with certainty that that strategy would work. He might reason that victory would prove him more than worthy in the end, regardless of the means he used to enter.

I know that I personally would have no qualms about using that loophole, since the age limit is somewhat broken in the first place. Santi's point really hangs on how much legitimacy Harry is willing to assign the idea of having an age line there. If he thinks it's unfair, he might not have any compunctions about subverting it in any way possible.

But Santi's point is quite reasonable, and these are only various ideas and suggestions.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:44 AM   #5108
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So....where is this Daphne we were promised, or am I misinterpreting something?
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Chapter 16 isn't done yet, but tbh I am clueless as to how Daphne is going to play a role. Good find, though.
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Nice snippet. At first I thought that Harry was going to fail to get his name into the Goblet, only to find that Calypso had entered his name without his permission. But it looks like this new plan is going to work.
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Nice snippet. At first I thought that Harry was going to fail to get his name into the Goblet, only to find that Calypso had entered his name without his permission, or that Nathan would be the only minor to be a champion of the Triwizard. However, after reading your new update, I think that this new plan is going to work.

In the end, Ivan's trick is to count for something positive for Harry.

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On-topic: It says something about the state of my life that anytime I find an update to this story my day is 10x better. Good stuff as usual, Santi.
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On topic, I really liked the bit with Nathan it'll be nice to see he and Harry getting more page time together.
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Yes, I also liked the interaction between the brothers.
How Nathan just wanted to hang out with Harry, but is willing to spend the day in the library researching to help him (as opposed to first year when he always went with Ron).

Hermoine seemed a bit in over her head in the discussion, it will be quite amusing to see the "cleverest witch" and know-it-all being outperformed by Harry and possibly Calypso as well.

When Harry was still in Hogwarts Hermoine was completely shocked that he earned the top spot in exams. When Harry went to Durmstrang she lost her biggest competition and now he is back and the intellectual difference between them is even more obvious.

The interaction between characters, their development and the subtle tensions are done extremely well and the best thing in this story, really great work Santi!



I just noticed something else, the beginning of the chapter is the evening of october 31st, the next section "when at first you don't succeed" is also set on oct 31st, but it beginns in the morning. Shouldn't this be the next day, nov. first?

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Old 11-10-2011, 01:02 PM   #5113
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Overall, I like how the Goblet stuff is working out. It makes sense, and I think what Dumbledore said regarding it is interesting.

I'm curious, though; from the Goblet's POV, how does Harry now stack up against people who are of age and simply entered normally? Clearly Harry is expending great intellectual and magical effort to enter the Tournament. Is he now better off in the eyes of the Goblet because he was arbitrarily prevented from entering and got around that in an impressive way? So hypothetically, the rules/age line meant to prevent underage people from entering could have the opposite effect.
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So....where is this Daphne we were promised, or am I misinterpreting something?
You can actually remember that far back in this thread? There are over 5141 replies to this thread, and you remember one in the first two hundred?

Great update, as expected. Kira isn't going to remain Krum's girlfriend for more then three chapters.

Am I the only one that is really looking foreward to Harry's eventual confrontation with the Ravenclaws?
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You can actually remember that far back in this thread? There are over 5141 replies to this thread, and you remember one in the first two hundred?

Great update, as expected. Kira isn't going to remain Krum's girlfriend for more then three chapters.

Am I the only one that is really looking foreward to Harry's eventual confrontation with the Ravenclaws?

Churchey linked to the third 'Almost Recommended' thread, not this one.

I doubt there'd be a confrontation at all, really. The Ravenclaws were painted as nuisances from day one, and a nuisance isn't something that warrants an 'epic showdown'.
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I'd still like to see Harry kick them magically in the nuts, though.
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You can actually remember that far back in this thread? There are over 5141 replies to this thread, and you remember one in the first two hundred?

Great update, as expected. Kira isn't going to remain Krum's girlfriend for more then three chapters.

Am I the only one that is really looking foreward to Harry's eventual confrontation with the Ravenclaws?
I was searching Almost Recommended for something to pass the time and came across that post. After checking Santi's FFN profile for any other fics he could have been referring to, I assumed he actually meant TBWL and decided to bring it up since we are 2/3rds through chapter 16.
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I'd guess that in the time since he posted that his outline for the story has changed a bit as far as "what goes where." Daphne might still have a big role somehow, but I wouldn't still expect it to be in Chapter 16 -- unless she does something that accidentally helps Harry enter the Tourney, but that seems a bit out there.
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Actually, this may be the perfect timing for any bloodpurist!Daphne, Now that they are at Hogwarts, as a bloodpurist, she recognizes Rosier?

Ignore if this has been previously over-processed on this thread.
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Why is Calypso so set on there being no way to retrieve Harry's original memory? It seems to me there is a very obvious way for Harry to find out what really happened in that detention. He just has to get powerful enough so that he can take it back from Ivan.

Can you really see Harry letting the one person who bested and so thoroughly humiliated him go unpunished? I can easily see Harry around 6th year torturing Ivan as payback and finding out what really happened.
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