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Old 04-18-2017, 09:38 PM   #101
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Through the lens of the original trilogy only, yes you are correct.
Well, frankly, that's all that should really matter.
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Old 04-19-2017, 12:56 AM   #102
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Well, frankly, that's all that should really matter.
I wholeheartedly agree. I'm just saying it is what it is. Lucas incorporated all that crap into prequels and clone wars about how A) dark side was not strictly about evil but also about emotionality and attachment to worldy shit, B) light side was not strictly about good but also about detachment from emotions in order to dispassionately and selflessly pursue order and justice, C) light and dark were two halves of a whole.

Disney certainly seems to be continuing that trend in Rebels, what with the introduction of the bendu, referencing the ashla and the bogan, bringing back the owl thing from the Father/Son/Duaghter forcewielder arc.

I'm not saying it's not bullshit, I'm just saying the balance between light and dark schtick has been around for a good long while.
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:10 AM   #103
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That sounds well and good if you consider 'the dark side' this edgy and rebellious concept that all the cool kids choose, but not so much when you realize that it's by and large a bunch of homicidal maniacs that would be classified as deranged and/or evil in literally any other setting. 'Dark side' and 'necessity of balance' does not excuse one's actions or the repercussions they have for the greater whole, nor does it make rising against such people any less right and morally obligatory.

Basically 'dark side is necessary' is -and has always been- a heap of steamy, edgy bullshit.

I'm not necessarily advocating the stance of the old Jedi Order, mind. I'm just highlighting my above tl;dr.
Yeah, as I recall the usual argument in favor of Grey Jedi is not so much that the Dark Side is as valid as the Light, but that the old Jedi Order's definition of the Light Side and how they trained Jedi to follow it was severely flawed. Namely, that Jedi should not feel emotions, care about other people, or try to interfere with "The Will of the Force."
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:25 AM   #104
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'Old Jedi' is a really broad term, you need to specify which era, unless you're talking purely disney canon. Because there was a specific date for a lot of the bullshit Jedi ideas being introduced and implemented.
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'Old Jedi' is a really broad term, you need to specify which era, unless you're talking purely disney canon. Because there was a specific date for a lot of the bullshit Jedi ideas being introduced and implemented.
Right, as I recall it was shortly after/in response to the whole Exar Kun thing.
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Old 07-16-2017, 03:32 PM   #106
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi Behind The Scenes.

There were some other cool videos presented at D23 ([like Infinity War trailer and the "live"-action Lion King Circle Of Life scene), but only few found themselves on the Internet.
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi Behind The Scenes.

There were some other cool videos presented at D23 ([like Infinity War trailer and the "live"-action Lion King Circle Of Life scene), but only few found themselves on the Internet.
Not going to lie, I welled up a little when Carrie Fisher started talking at the end.
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Intrigued by that white wolf thing. If the theories about Ahsoka's fate in rebels are anything to go by, it could be pretty important.
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Intrigued by that white wolf thing. If the theories about Ahsoka's fate in rebels are anything to go by, it could be pretty important.
Dave Filoni already said that theory is bullshit.
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