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Old 05-19-2017, 06:29 PM   #3641
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So you think Jarizok is less of a witch for WITHHOLDING Fonti's cards? lmao

You're his partner. Enough. Just concede pls.
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:42 PM   #3642
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Okay, so 1) you're putting words in my mouth, 2) if something is a witch claim then I'm not going to do it as a witch because I like not losing, 3) I've conceded in much less dire circumstances, 4) you're being annoying, so back off. Regardless of alignment, you will never ever ever get a person to scumclaim, unless you want them to troll you.

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Like you trying to rush us to endgame under the guise of "oh no I have a game on Monday" is making me paranoid. I'm in that game too, I work long hours too, and you don't see me trying to rush everything.

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My point is that Delphine/Miner can be scum together and Jarizok can be town if Miner used his hunter shot to snipe fluff. That makes the whole "three dead witches confirmed" thing a lot less certain, which means there's an unknown witch running around.

I am voicing this now so that I can be reassured this scenario is mechanically impossible.

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Like I don't know if you were around for WH6 but uh, I've started taking "mechanically one hundred percent confirmed witch" checks with a huge grain of salt.

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Sorry, it was WH5. Man I can't keep them straight.

Anyway yeah witches faked a ~confirmed~ redcheck on me and I'm still very, very salty about it, so.

Let's talk things out.
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Old 05-19-2017, 07:52 PM   #3643
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My point is that Delphine/Miner can be scum together and Jarizok can be town if Miner used his hunter shot to snipe fluff. That makes the whole "three dead witches confirmed" thing a lot less certain, which means there's an unknown witch running around.

I am voicing this now so that I can be reassured this scenario is mechanically impossible.
If Delphine/Miner are scum, Jari is town. Jari flipped Owner, Kalas, and Rubicon scum, so if Delphine/Miner were scum, there could not have been another member unless you believe Delphine the scum Judge saved town Miner over her own teammate.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:04 PM   #3644
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[colro=red]lynch jarizok[/color]

Vira's right.

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rip typo.

lynch jarizok
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:26 PM   #3645
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:27 PM   #3646
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:32 PM   #3647
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What on earth was Jarizok's plan yesterDay? His choices were concede, or get town to lynch Miner and then immediately get lynched next. I don't get it.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:33 PM   #3648
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What on earth was Jarizok's plan yesterDay? His choices were concede, or get town to lynch Miner and then immediately get lynched next. I don't get it.
He has a partner and needed to stall. It's you.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:38 PM   #3649
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:44 PM   #3650
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We could lynch both vaimes and cobalt, then jarizok.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:54 PM   #3651
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Yeahhh, I'd rather be leeroy'd if it came to that.

I don't get mislynched anymore.

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Also if I had to choose between killing Jarizok or killing Cobalt, I'd kill Jarizok a thousand times. Even if Cobalt's push on me feels slimy.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:57 PM   #3652
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Yeahhh, I'd rather be leeroy'd if it came to that.

I don't get mislynched anymore.

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Also if I had to choose between killing Jarizok or killing Cobalt, I'd kill Jarizok a thousand times. Even if Cobalt's push on me feels slimy.
Well, Jarizok is confirmed scum at this point.

So there has to be his buddy in you / vira / cobalt.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:02 PM   #3653
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Then we lynch Cobalt, because 1) I think we're screwed if it's Vira, 2) he's the only one in the PoE pushing an agenda, and 3) http://game.fantasystrike.com/forums...57#post-431677
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:10 PM   #3654
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That was the the earliest I've been killed by witches in a long time.

What a great game.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:21 PM   #3655
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:30 PM   #3656
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I mean, I guess it wasn't really that great overall but getting killed early by witches is always nice.

Also it gave us the extra witch role rule in postgame (thanks ericf).
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:41 PM   #3657
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We could lynch both vaimes and cobalt, then jarizok.
Why.

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Old 05-19-2017, 09:48 PM   #3658
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Prevents the last witch in Jarizok+1 worlds from using last stand, since we'll kill them before Jarizok.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:26 PM   #3659
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Do want to apologise to Delphine and to a lesser extent Miner given its confirmed they're both town and I'm a large part of us ending up spending three lynches between them; certainly something I'm ready to face the music about when the game ends.

Pretty worried that lynching Jarizok here doesn't end the game and we are indeed dealing with a +1 world which doesn't put us in the best of situations, in a world where Jarizok is alone the game would have been over by this stage I'd think. We should be all taking today a little slower and evaluating the possible worlds a little more just in case the game doesnt' end on Jarizoks lynch here.

Game not ending upon Jarizoks death means that both Waco and Fontisian were town and leaves us in only four possible worlds;

1) Jarizok/Vira
2) Jarizok/Vaimes
3) Jarizok/Kai
4) Jarizok/Cobalt

I plan on rereading and leaving some thoughts behind on these worlds in case I die tonight, most specifically want to look at the viability of Jarizok/Vira as well as look into Jarizok/Cobalt & Jarizok/Vaimes some more given I've not really given either much consideration thus far this game.

I'm also...not entirely sure if it's even best for me to leave 'hard town reads' behind here given it just gives mafia information how to best make their night kills. It's probable we're going to be relying on some angel saves to win this game.

Either way I think just reading and trying to work out who's actually scum is the play right now. I'm preeeeeeeetty hungover so likely won't get around to it till tonight.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:54 PM   #3660
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It's things like this that make me not want to listen to you.

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I'm town.

Kai won't be allowed to survive F3.

I really don't think Vira was coached into faking multiple townslips, or that she randomly decided to add that to her scum meta.

I will be lynching Cobalt if Jarizok's death doesn't end the game. But I'm not gonna be an annoying clown and goad him into scumclaiming.
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