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Old 06-14-2016, 04:06 PM   #1401
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But you don't have that correlation. In recent years, the number of households with guns has been increasing yet violent crime has precipitously declined.
Yeah, and if throwing two variables together without any attention paid to context was enough to establish correlation, I'd be promoting piracy to combat global warming.

In any case, this is the thread to derp about this subject and proclaim the infallibility of your position after stripping said situation of all context. Not the election one.
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Old 06-14-2016, 04:41 PM   #1402
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In any case, this is the thread to derp about this subject and proclaim the infallibility of your position after stripping said situation of all context. Not the election one.
Oh get off your high fucking horse, you were in the election thread posting about guns too.
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Old 06-14-2016, 04:49 PM   #1403
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Oh get off your high fucking horse, you were in the election thread posting about guns too.
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Uh, yeah? I responded to his post and said " ...that said, we have a sticky for this." He responded to me in the election thread itself, so I brought the quote chain over here - in retrospect, sure, should have done that from the start. Then Sesc came in and said stfu.
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:27 PM   #1404
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I don't generally bump quiet threads, but there is an interesting judicial development in the gun rights arena today that will doubtless provoke opinions from anyone with the stake in the matter.

To whit: a panel opinion from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco has ruled that the Second Amendment does not protect the right to carry a concealed weapon. While the Court's decision in Heller et al. may protect your right to keep and bear arms, the 9th Circuit writes, it does not protect your right to do so in a concealed manner. Link to the NY Times coverage.

I can practically feel Scrubb's outrage brewing...
Naa, that court isn't known as the 9th circus court for nothing. As Wildfeather said, either you get to carry them openly, or you get to carry them concealed. The courts can't ban both, or they're violating the Second Amendment and stare decisis on its interpretation.
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I do not believe that gun ownership is a constitutional right under the 2nd Amendment.
Do you think that it is not a right, or that it shouldn't be a right? There's an important distinction there.
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That it shouldn't be a right under the 2nd Amendment.
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