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Old 11-14-2014, 07:53 AM   #1
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Finally 17! by 9876grpc - M

Title: Finally 17!
Author: 9876grpc
Rating: M
Genre: Romance/Drama(Family Drama)
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Pairing: Harry Potter/Rose Weasley
Chapters: 44
Updated: Oct 27, 2014
Published: Aug 30, 2011
Status: WIP
Summary: Rose is FINALLY turning 17 and she can't wait to seduce that older wizard she's had her eye on for years...
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Alright...this is a very cute fluffy romance that some might not like, but for me, its one of the best. Harry is a divorced 42 year old man with three teenage children and Rose is a horny, newly turned 17 year witch who has had her eyes on him for years. She accosts him in her birthday party and hilarity ensues.

There is loads of family drama as people slowly get to know about their relationship and the family itself is a shitty one. Watch out for Lily in this one! The situations the author creates are hilarious and I personally feel sorry for Harry sometimes. He is sometimes a drama queen especially in the last chapter, but comes around fast.

There are some sensitive topics but I don't want to give away much.
Harry himself doesn't take shit from anybody and actually doesn't back down from punching and kicking anybody who harms Rose, even if its her own father. Rose herself is cute, funny, caring and horny as hell.
We get to know Al, James, Lily, and a host of other characters.
Sex is present but it is not porn.

The story is mostly dialogue driven. The author doesn't seem to have a beta but still there are only a few mistakes which doesn't distract from the story.

I was searching for a nice fluffy romance for a long time and had given up but I finally found this and its great. This is the only story I've seen with this pairing worth reading.

Fo me, 5/5.
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Old 11-14-2014, 08:03 AM   #2
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Just wut.

Describing this as a fluffy romance is somewhat disturbing. To be clear, it's not the age difference per se which is the problem (given that Rose is old enough to consent), but rather that Harry is Rose's uncle. He has watched her grow up, probably helped take care of her when she was younger, and there's a massive imbalance of life experience.

The relationship is just massively fucked up, about as far away from fluffy as you can get. She's developed a childish crush on him, and instead of playing it down and encouraging her to engage in healthy relationships with an equal, Harry abuses the power imbalance that exists between them and takes advantage of a girl who doesn't know any better.

The idea that we're supposed to cheer on Harry as he "doesn't take shit from anyone" is absurd lol. If anything we should be cheering on those trying to make Harry see sense.

And don't even get me started on Hermione basically telling Harry to fuck her daughter.

If the narrative recognised this and presented it as a subversive romance the story might manage to get a 3/5 as a kind of failed attempt at a HP Lolita (albeit with a different kind of victim). But as it is, being presented completely earnestly, as a comedy, the story is completely unrealistic and lacks the depth required when you're playing with themes like these. 2/5.
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Old 11-14-2014, 08:29 AM   #3
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Wow, Taure. I am a great fan. Especially, your avatar is amazing.

That said, Harry does try to stop her till she drags him to the bedroom but a male can do only so much when a beautiful girl less than half your age throws herself at you. It isn't taking advantage if its concensual, that's what age of consent really means.

Harry isn't actually her Uncle and she never saw him as such. Later in the story, it is explained that Harry wasn't present much for his own children when they were younger, let alone their friend's daughter.

And really, who can tell who your equal is other than yourself. If someone dreamed of being with someone but isn't able to do so due to societal rules, its not their fault if they pounce on the first opportunity they get.

It isn't a childish crush if you are 17 and you are ready to go to such lengths for someone. She just saw something in Harry and she wants him. Really, its that simple. And if you read a little farther, you'll find it adorable and fluffy.

Hermione is just letting her daughter decide what she wants and for once, keeping her nose out of where it doesn't belong.
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That said, Harry does try to stop her till she drags him to the bedroom but a male can do only so much when a beautiful girl less than half your age throws herself at you. It isn't taking advantage if its concensual, that's what age of consent really means.
This is what make me think you're a massive idiot.


Moving on:

As for the story, I tried to read the first chapter but it's really not that good. The prose is lacking in wit or mien. The Flow of the plot is atrocious and it just doesn't read like anything I'd want.

It's basicall trying to toe the line of a YA style writing and a paperback erotica novel, both used styles are even in the same scene which is jarring and unwanted. It basically reads like a shittier 50 Shades (which I can't believe I just used as a reference) but with no BDSM.

That said, it's technically not poorly written, there's a few grammar errors and maybe one or spelling errors that I can see within the first chapter.

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Old 11-14-2014, 09:35 AM   #5
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This is what make me think you're a massive idiot.
I really don't understand this. Can you please elaborate and help me gain a little amount of intelligence by pointing out what was wrong in my statement which you found so idiotic.

Moving on:

As for the story, its not everyone's cup of tea. I understand this and I mentioned it above.

The strong points of this story are the situations and the family drama that ensues after these two get together and you really can't see that in the first chapter.
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Old 11-14-2014, 09:58 AM   #6
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Er, yes he is. Rose is Ron's daughter, Ginny is Ron's sister, Harry and Ginny have kids together and were married.

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Ask a One Direction fangirl what she'd do to be able to sleep with Harry Styles, then say this again.

Anyway, the point you're missing is that there's a difference between being a good person and keeping within the law. That Rose is legal doesn't mean much at all, because the issue here is one of morality not legality. Rose isn't just younger than Harry, she's of a completely different generation and stage of life. There's no way there can be true understanding between the two of them, and their different levels of maturity would be the death of any realistic depiction of any such relationship.
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I really don't understand this. Can you please elaborate and help me gain a little amount of intelligence by pointing out what was wrong in my statement which you found so idiotic.
A phrase like "...a male can only do so much when..." implies a Harry with no core of strength or sense of morality, no filter between his hormones and his actions. Whether or not it's legally deemed incest if the uncle and niece don't share genes (such uncle-niece marriages are legal in some states of the U.S., such as New York), it's still wrong and a betrayal of his family, friends, and values. Seeing a bit of cleavage isn't going to suddenly make it happen.

Rose's seduction of an older wizard can be done right if in the hands of a talented author. This isn't the case here.
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I'll add this to what Pers said: there's a massive difference between being old enough to consent and being old enough to understand.

Also, the idiocy part stems from your generalization that no male could withstand the advances of a teenaged girl simply because she's young and willing. It's people like you that make this kind of statement that frustrate me.
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-I am already skeptical at this point as the story's quality, but I have been proven wrong before by the odd pairing.

Summary: Rose is FINALLY turning 17 and she can't wait to seduce that older wizard she's had her eye on for years...

-Warning bells begin to ring...

"very cute fluffy romance"

-...what?

Chapter 1 - Hermione tells Harry to fuck her daughter.

-Suspension of disbelief set to high, simply because no mother would tell their best friend/brother-in-law to have sex with their daughter. Will try to finish at least three chapters in the hopes that it might get better.

Chapter 1: They start having sex right away.

-Yeah, this plot progression is shit.

Chapter 3: It does not get better. Final notes: technical writing is decent, but characterizations are poor. Plot is poor. Dialogue is ok-ish. Requires a ridiculous degree of suspension of disbelief to properly enjoy. Lacks depth for the issues being tackles.

2/5 - average ff.net, really guilty pleasure at best. Definitely NOT library worthy.
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Read the first couple of chapters a while ago and dropped it out of disgust. Perhaps this story could have had some promise if it showed Rose being disgusted with her attraction to Harry but being unable to help but be even more attracted to Harry the more she interacts with him. Harry feeling the same way could have lead to some really interesting interactions between the two and with their family. Taking a significant amount of time for the two to even get together would have been far better than what the author did. Which was taking the way easy route.

It doesn't help that the other situations in the story further my dislike of it especially the crap with Lily.

2/5 - Not the worst story I've read but not something that I would recommend to anyone.
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Old 11-14-2014, 11:24 AM   #11
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Er, yes he is. Rose is Ron's daughter, Ginny is Ron's sister, Harry and Ginny have kids together and were married.
WERE being the decisive word. But I get your point.

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Ask a One Direction fangirl what she'd do to be able to sleep with Harry Styles, then say this again.
Correct, but she doesn't come out as a fangirl and she doesn't want to only get hot with Harry. Tell me, if Ginny were to suddenly know, Harry had a mistress for ten years, what would she do? Kill him. It doesn't happen here. The girl actually loves him and wants to marry him.

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Anyway, the point you're missing is that there's a difference between being a good person and keeping within the law. That Rose is legal doesn't mean much at all, because the issue here is one of morality not legality. Rose isn't just younger than Harry, she's of a completely different generation and stage of life.
I concede this point.

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There's no way there can be true understanding between the two of them, and their different levels of maturity would be the death of any realistic depiction of any such relationship.
Not this one, though. Exceptions are always there. Otherwise there wouldn't be a single happy married couple with age differences.

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A phrase like "...a male can only do so much when..." implies a Harry with no core of strength or sense of morality, no filter between his hormones and his actions. Whether or not it's legally deemed incest if the uncle and niece don't share genes (such uncle-niece marriages are legal in some states of the U.S., such as New York), it's still wrong and a betrayal of his family, friends, and values. Seeing a bit of cleavage isn't going to suddenly make it happen.
As for Harry's morality, you really have to understand he just doesn't fuck her and leave her or even try to hide his relationship with her. He doesn't force himself on her, rather he protects her. The guy wasn't happy in his 20 year marriage(or before that, for that matter) and when he gets a little happiness in his empty life, how can someone expect him to just turn away from the one who tries to give it to him?

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Rose's seduction of an older wizard can be done right if in the hands of a talented author. This isn't the case here.
Ah, I would love to see more Harry/Rose stories out there if someone can do them properly. Alas, the idea of Draco Malfoy touching her with his dirty hands just kills the vibe for me. Thats where we need morality, since he is ranks just a little below Snape in morality meter.

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I'll add this to what Pers said: there's a massive difference between being old enough to consent and being old enough to understand.
I understand but who would decide this. I assure you, it was not Rose's first relationship and the last one wasn't a very happy one either. Being an adult, one has to take risks.

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Also, the idiocy part stems from your generalization that no male could withstand the advances of a teenaged girl simply because she's young and willing. It's people like you that make this kind of statement that frustrate me.
I am sorry. I was trying to be realistic. There are people who wouldn't do what Harry did but only a few.
And please, what do you mean by 'people like me'. You don't know anything about me brother. I can safely say that my moral grounds are high enough to be compared with those of a saint. Try not to get frustated when people speak truth.
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I am sorry. I was trying to be realistic. There are people who wouldn't do what Harry did but only a few.
And please, what do you mean by 'people like me'. You don't know anything about me brother. I can safely say that my moral grounds are high enough to be compared with those of a saint. Try not to get frustated when people speak truth.
For what it's worth, are you saying that despite being effectively what you would consider a 'saint', you feel you would still succumb, thus the large majority of others would as well?

If so, I'm sorry but that's... flawed in the extreme.
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I can safely say that my moral grounds are high enough to be compared with those of a saint.
I smell a troll. Before I thought him a lost soul, but that sentence is too ridiculous to be anything but the radioactive diarrhea of a challenged monkey.
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I am sorry. I was trying to be realistic. There are people who wouldn't do what Harry did but only a few..
I want you to know that this pissed me off enough to come out of a very long and successful lurking spree on this site.

You sir, are a dumbass.
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What the hell is this...

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can anyone explain?

What the heck has this person been smoking to rec this? Have I missed something and this is a long forgotten work of Chaucer, because that's the only reason why I would read something with that kind of a rec and summary.
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For what it's worth, are you saying that despite being effectively what you would consider a 'saint', you feel you would still succumb, thus the large majority of others would as well?

If so, I'm sorry but that's... flawed in the extreme.
Na, you misunderstood...I meant that me being of very high moral grounds doesn't mean everybody is. Outside world wants to suck you. Few good people can not make much difference. And rest assured, I won't 'succumb' if I ever got a chance.

This does not mean that I am applying Harry in this condition. He is a poor, poor soul and he got his happiness. I don't feel anything wrong with it.
As I said, there are always exceptions.

Just Telling.

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I smell a troll. Before I thought him a lost soul, but that sentence is too ridiculous to be anything but the radioactive diarrhea of a challenged monkey.
Hey, I just don't believe in being too modest. I just wish someone could understand.
Say what, I really am from a family of saints.
Don't believe if you don't wish.

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I want you to know that this pissed me off enough to come out of a very long and successful lurking spree on this site.

You sir, are a dumbass.
Same to you, my dear, same to you. You, son, are in denial.

"Men are pigs" is said for a reason. Not all, but most.

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Read the first couple of chapters a while ago and dropped it out of disgust.Perhaps this story could have had some promise if it showed Rose being disgusted with her attraction to Harry
I really do not understand why people are digusted by this pairing. I mean, come on. There are tons of Harry/Bella stories out there and people enjoy them. Its not as if Bellatrix Lestrange is Harry's next door neighbor cum girlfriend. She's fucking 30 years older than him.

Hell, there are so many Harry/Lily stories out there. That is incest. People forget about morality there. And yes, it doesn't matter how well a story is written. If it is morally wrong, then you shouldn't read, period.

This seems really hypocritical.

Poor, poor Rose.
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I'm not disgusted with the pairing, I'm disgusted with how terrible the story was.
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Yes, let's sympathize with the poor fictional character. This is such a trying time for her.
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I'm not disgusted with the pairing, I'm disgusted with how terrible the story was.
Sorry, then.
But you said Rose should be disgusted with herself for being attracted to Harry.
Why, oh why?
Its not as if one can control these things.
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