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Controlled Fusion? Yes please.

Discussion in 'Real Life Discussion' started by Taure, May 22, 2009.

  1. Taure

    Taure Magical Core Enthusiast Prestige DLP Supporter

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    Not a fusion power plant yet, but still awesome:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8044620.stm
     
  2. Link

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    Nice, that reminds me of the BBC's documentary from Horizon series "Can We Make a Star on Earth" a couple of months ago which is was awesome, and it did talk about those lasers which could create conditions similar to inside a star for a tiny amount of time.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00hr6bk

    It's easily found on any torrent tracker for those who can't watch it because they don't live in Britain.
     
  3. QuixoticStoic

    QuixoticStoic First Year

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    This reminds me of Spider Man.
     
  4. Dr. Strange Lulz

    Dr. Strange Lulz Denarii Host DLP Supporter

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    This reminds me of We're All Going To Die!

    No, but really. If they can make this work and harness it, yay, clean energy for the world.

    If they somehow kill us all, eh could be worse.
     
  5. Taure

    Taure Magical Core Enthusiast Prestige DLP Supporter

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    It's already been planned for it to go supernova. How more dangerous can it be than that?
     
  6. The Lord of Chaos

    The Lord of Chaos Slug Club Member

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    Well shoot, mad science is trying to destroy the world again. Oh well, here's hoping we can become less dependent on fossil fuels.

    The Lord of Chaos

    :mid3
     
  7. belleradh

    belleradh Murder Princess DLP Supporter

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    We need more practical application of apocalyptic events. All this simmering threat of terror gets tiresome. It's like watching porn with all the good bits cut out, then having your aunt visit for dinner. Every. Fucking. Day.

    Hate teases.
     
  8. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Well, if it goes nuclear, the US West coast is fucked. Hopefully, it doesn't and the scientists somehow manage to harness the physical/nuclear energy released from the bang.
     
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    Innomine Auror Prestige DLP Supporter

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    Jesus, wtf? What size is this thing supposed to be?

    Unseeable?
     
  10. Othalan

    Othalan High Inquisitor

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    In order for it to "go nuclear", you'd have to have far more hydrogen/deuterium, and it would have to be more densely packed. The only way fusion bombs (H-Bombs) work is by encasing the fusionable material in a shell of Uranium/Plutonium. The fissionable shell is detonated, creating the pressures and temperatures necessary for a mass, near instantaneous chain reaction.

    Fusion is a very ponderous process. It takes a shit-ton of energy input to produce, and once achieved, it needs a constant supply of fuel and energy, at a relatively constant density, to maintain itself. If any one of these conditions falters, the reaction simply stops. Even if containment is breached, all that would happen is an outpouring of rapidly cooling plasma. Without the proper density of materials, the fusion reaction couldn't continue. It would, in essence, fizzle out.

    Sure, you'd have a pile of slag where a massively expensive reactor used to be, but there would be no devastating explosion.
     
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  11. Teks

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    Where the hell is Perspicacity to explain the inner workings on how (non)dangerous this shit is for us?
     
  12. Mercenary

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    Well... I guess you can kind of think about it like a car. To start the car (fusion) you have to put a key into the ignition and well... ignite the gas in the cylinders to get that process going. Ie. Set off the fission to set off the fusion. No gas(fuel) no process. The car stops.
     
  13. Dr. Strange Lulz

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    I'm no physicist but I know that there are definitely situations, especially situations dealing with any sort of combustion, where reactions are not necessarily linear and depending on the materials involved you can have a completely runaway reaction.

    So really who knows whats going to happen? This is the kind of shit that people can theorize about all day long, but when it comes time to put it to the test we can never really be sure that its going to happen the way we expect it to.

    Fucking scientists and their rancors.
     
  14. Taure

    Taure Magical Core Enthusiast Prestige DLP Supporter

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    Er, what? The entire point of the experiment is for it to "go nuclear". What they're doing is nuclear fusion. Making a mini-star. You know that a star is pretty much one giant H-bomb, yes?
     
  15. Perspicacity

    Perspicacity High Score: 3,994 Prestige DLP Supporter

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    I've worked in precisely this field for the past eight years. I know it better than most areas of science.

    That said...

    Right. I don't think I'll bother. Figure it out for yourselves or ask me in a PM.

    Couldn't have said it better myself.
     
  16. Blaise

    Blaise Golden Patronus

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    This is insanely awesome. The scale they're running it on doesn't make it sound too dangerous (read the article, fags), and the benefit of being able to run the same experiment over and over....

    I know science for science's sake is a worthy pursuit, and the NIF scientists are probably slighlty annoyed at the people frothing at the mouth about the energy applications, but I can't help but think of the energy benefit. Too bad it'll take a while to reach us, though.

    And metallic hydrogen sounds awesome.
     
  17. Evan Tide

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    You never know. They might do something wrong that causes a chain of failures. I'm just saying, worst case scenario, it goes fission and booms instead of fusion and star. But, the size does make the damage that might be possible seem very small.
     
  18. Immolo

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    A. Worse case scenario involves the reactor getting fried. It does not involve a large detonation because that only happens in movies.

    B. If you magically made all the deuterium and tritium fission without trying you would produce almost no energy especially in comparison to the amount of energy generated by the fusion reaction.
     
  19. Zombie

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    Rofl, Pers. I lol'd. When has what anyone said stopped you before?

    Why do I have the image of Doc. Octavius or whatever from Spiderman. Then I get this image in my head about the largest mirror in the world, which used to be California.
     
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    Sexiest avatar every Zommie.

    Also: All hail the future republic of the mirror! *stakes claim to SFBay area*