So, the basic idea behind this thread is as a simplified canon character personality definition repository. Mostly for the sake of Fanfic Writers who are having a hard time with a character, and/or to seperate Canon from Fanon. DLP-community maintained, debated, and updated.

I know that The Harry Potter Lexicon is a great resource for straight up facts and figures from inside the books. But from what I've seen, there is very little to do on Personality, Tendencies, Habits, etc etc. I figure for the sake of expediency and so that we don't get bogged down in verifiable non-personality, etc facts the Name of each Character's entry will be a link to their Harry Potter Lexicon's (or some other heretofore agreed upon resource's) entry for said character.

The idea is that no definition could be called 'complete' for the purposes of admittance to the 'Definitions Thread' without at least a majority of interested/participating parties showing their agreement with or at least acceptance of the current character definition on the table.

For the purposes of expediency, once the character currently under review/definition has been without updates or action for a period of time (say, five days?), they'll be put up for completion and added to the First Post of the currently Too-Be-Created 'Definitions Thread'. Add a secondary Five-Day period of time for the opportunity to reveal disagreements or further adjustments to be considered and once a certain set period has passed without such, add them.


As a very brief, and by no means complete or entirely correct example We'll start with..

Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore.

-Optimist "We must try not to sink beneath our anguish, Harry, but battle on."

-Chessmaster "In fact, being - forgive me - rather cleverer than most men, my mistakes tend to be correspondingly huger."

-Forgiving "By all means continue destroying my possessions. I daresay I have too many."

-Socialist (Needs of the Many Before the Few) “Harry must not know, not until the last moment, not until it is necessary, otherwise how could he have the strength to do what must be done?”

Etc Etc.

The Hope, of course, is to avoid Character Bashing as much as possible, And the expectation would be that if you cannot keep your dislike of a certain character from coloring your participation in regards to that character's entry?

Don't participate in their entry.

All of this, is, of course, as a community project, up for change or tweaking for purposes of streamlining, accessibility, management or style.

As is obvious, I am not a respected source or expert on either Harry Potter, Fanfiction or even within DLP's community, my personal hope is that the more experienced/knowledgeable members of DLP will take an interest in the project and shape it into a much better, more acceptable form.

 

In hopes of short-circuiting the otherwise inevitable bitch-slapping that will ensue as a result of your post, I'd like to recommend that we instead revive the

Awesomize a character!

thread.

Because that shit should have been stickied.

 

In all seriousness, this could serve the purpose of separating canon personalities from fanon stereotypes. That said... consensus probably won't work here. If the higher powers agree to let this be, I might contribute, but as it is...

 

That's exactly what I'd like, more experienced/respected/knowledgeable folks to take the idea and the shape I've tried to give it, then make it better, more workable. Really, if you (or anyone) have a (serious) idea or thought on how it might be better done, feel free to post it.

Thanks for the intentional thread derail there, bud, proving your own point about rude actions, are we?

 

That was rude? Here's me being nice:

Drop the attitude, dick dribble. Considering he had a valid point, and has been long enough that you're about to be bitch slapped for this, you should really consider giving a thanks to him.

But considering the answer I got when I asked wtf the Enyclopedia Persona Potteronicum was with all of the facepalms (consensus being 'that guy who goes on absurd nonsense rants in politics), I can see how you might have missed it.

I'd have let slide if you hadn't been a douche to someone questioning the existence of the thread.

So fuck off. Canon ended four years ago and "Enyclopedia Persona Potteronicum" Is quite possibly the single most retarded name to come out of DLP member in ages. Enjoy your aids.

 

After seventeen years of reading Harry Potter fanfiction, I believe I have the definitive knowledge set to contribute to the Ad Perigrine Personaifica.

Ronald "Won-Won" Weasel

• Hungry - "Ron looked up, his face covered in sauce."
  [*]Jealous - "Ron spit in Harry's face, then kicked him between the legs."
  [*]Whore - "Ron stuck his tongue down Lavender's throat, then tweaked her arse."
  [*]Ginger - "Ron realized his hair was still red, and broke down in sobs."
  [*]Awesome - "Ron growled and smacked Malfoy right in his ugly face."

And now, the rest:

• Malfoy the "Weasel" - "Malfoy shagged a ferret, you know."
  [*]Hermione the "Beaver" - "Bloody hell, don't you ever shave?"
  [*]Daphne the "Owl" - "Who?"
  [*]Lavender the "Swallow" - "Gulp!"
  [*]Snape the "Snail" - "He leaves a trail of slime behind him."
  [*]Parvati the "Mink" - "I'd like to wrap her around my neck."
  [*]Fleur the "Blonde" - "Oui, zat is 'orrible!"
  [*]Neville the "Bond" - "Who's Longbottom? He's the guy who's killing you."
  [*]And who can forget good ol' Harry the "Prongslet Pup" - "Call me that horrible nickname again and I will murder you."
  

 

I think most canon characters are sufficiently 2D to not need a discussion. The few characters who are ambiguous are controversial and no agreement will be reached.

E.g. Dumbledore.

We see 2 Dumbledores in the story. Dumbledore in books 1-6: kind, forgiving, smart, powerful, grandfatherly, trusting, fearsome when angered.

Then there's the Dumbledore we get a peek of in DH, through his interactions with Snape: capable of hating a person; not nearly as forgiving as we thought but rather willing to use people; a war leader capable of doing anything to achieve victory, including sacrifice a 17 year old boy; arrogant and occasionally cruel.

Lots of people, upon reading DH, immediately took the "new" Dumbledore to be the real one and confirmation of all of their indy!Harry manipulative!Dumbledore stereotypes. I think it's a lot more ambiguous than that. We know that Dumbledore didn't expect Harry to actually die - that was the look of triumph at the end of GoF, when Voldemort took in Harry's blood. But he needed Harry to think that he was going to die - thus the memories and the manipulation of Snape.

So it's not clear at all which persona is the act and which one is the true Dumbledore - if that's even the right way of framing it. I don't see why they can't both be aspects of his character.

 

I fail to see how this thread is fundamentally different from this one, which is still on the first page, and thus not at all difficult to find.

Not that either thread is worthwhile anyway.

 

Wait... isn't this pretty much the same thread as that 'Character Tags' bullshit? I think it's still on the first page, but I can't be fucked to look for it. -edit- Ninja'd.

@Taure: While I certainly agree with you about Dumbledore's character, I do think Snape is possibly one of the most biased viewpoints in the series. I don't weight his evidence particularly high on anything. It seems to me that Dumbledore had a good handle on Snape; he treated him like the puddle of puke the greasy git was. He appeared to treat everyone else fairly, so it follows that the way Snape was treated had something to with him being of slightly less value than a necrotic sore on the inside of a Rhino's crusty, syphilitic cunt flap.

 

You'd be better off creating a thread of fanon stereotypes. That way you can see what not to do in fics.

 

Agreed, 100%.

 

Because the idea isn't just to tag. The example given wasn't, as stated complete or entirely correct. The first post was something I pumped out in about 30 minutes while the idea was still clear in my head. And the 'example' itself took about ten (five of which were just looking up the right quotes).

That's actually.. a really damn good idea. And should be considered. Hummm. Though it's somewhat subject to what Xiph0 said as well, that being that alot of folks won't remember perfectly what is canon and what is fanon, by this point.

Still, it bears thought.

This is true, but such a trait, being able to shape one's persona and outward actions depending on the situation at hand is a definable trait, something that could be expressed appropriately I think within words.

However, most folks don't seem to think that the idea would work, for various reasons. And as such I'll simply bow to greater wisdom and let it die.

Thanks anyway, folks.

 

Fixed. Also, it took you thirty minutes to write out that post? Jesus, what took the time? Was nine out of ten 'research' minutes taken up with trying to insert that 'socialist' joke?

 

Because It's not like there isn't already a fair amount of flamage on my ass already, right? And it's done soooo much to deter me from doing what I was already, right?

 

Oh please. This is the first time I've seen the guy be reasonable and get the hint. Don't be a cunt when he's finally getting something right.

 

It should have. But you are either retarded (very possible) or a masochist on the level of mknote (even more possible). Or both (most likely).

I can't think of a worthwhile post you've contributed yet. And not only is your shit pointless, you can't do 15 seconds of research to find out if someone else already posted the same pointless shit.

Just GTFO already.

 

Yes. Aside from the fact that I don't care if the internet thinks I'm a dick, this guy is annoying enough that a good spot of cunt-y behavior is just right.

 

Pointless thread is pointless.

 

Pointless reply to the pointless thread is pointless.

inb4 Pointless reply to pointless reply to the pointless thread is pointless.