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Marvel Cinematic Universe General Thread

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by Andrela, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. KHAAAAAAAN!!

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    Sounds like an excuse to intro Moon Knight before his series.
     
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    What If...Zombies?
    Peter Parker: makes a Zombieland style orientation video of rules for surviving a zombie apocalypse.
    Also Peter Parker: makes the first entry one about covering up as much flesh as possible.
    Also Also Peter Parker: proceeds to not wear his mask for the entire episode. Also doesn't get a jacket for Happy or Bruce, letting them go bare-armed.
     
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    They were pretty good, up until this one, maintaining some semblance of logic. But this shit was pure crackfic.
     
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    Well okay then.
    ...
     
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    Finally got to see Black Widow (didn't manage to get to see it in the cinema because of self-isolation stuff, and refused to spend stupid money on Disney+ for a chance to see it a few weeks early). It was okay. Definitely should have been released after Civil War. Everything felt supremely pointless due to how out-of-order it was.

    In general, I liked the characters and the ideas, but the execution left me a little cold.

    For a spy adventure it was just far too linear, with no real mystery or tension. The 'can you even trust yourself' angle was set up when Yelena was so insistent in questioning Natasha about her hit on Dreykov, but they didn't really do anything with it. The whole central thing of mind-control, and the possibilities that affords to twists, betrayals, and interesting storytelling was almost completely ignored. All we got was the pheromone thing stopping Nat from harming Dreykov, but even that the characters went into with full knowledge. It was always part of the plan.

    Perhaps I'm looking at it wrong. Maybe it wasn't meant to be a spy adventure. Maybe it really was intended to be a kind of found family light drama, set on a backdrop of explosions and Marvel CGI. If that was the plan, I guess it was fine, but it's a strange decision for Black Widow's send off.

    Or maybe it wasn't Black Widow's send off. Maybe it was meant to be New-Black Widow's origin story. If that's the case then they really didn't do enough to convince me that Nat can be Yelena's Yinsen, despite having an entire movie to do it. Sure, they love each other, but there wasn't that same feeling that Nat had altered something fundamental in Yelena's world view.

    Some of the little notes also didn't really land with me. So the Budapest that Nat was joking about to her friend in an upbeat way was the same event that drives much of her self-doubt and loathing in this one? That seemed very strange. Probably would have preferred it if they'd left Budapest as a noodle incident. Not everything needs to be a call back.

    Still, while it didn't light a fire in my loins, it'll probably end up on the list of Marvel movies we occasionally rewatch. I had a pleasant enough 2 hours.
     
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    I was oddly annoyed that Nat never mentioned her friendship with Hawkeye leading to the set up at the end where Yelena jumps to all the wrong conclusions.

    I get why she might not have but it felt like it was left out purely to set up future drama instead of for a real reason.
     
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