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Netflix Original: The Old Guard

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by Mordecai, Jul 22, 2020.

  1. Mordecai

    Mordecai Drunken Scotsman –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Just watched this now in the recommendation of a friend, I hadn't been planning to as the teaser clip on netflix didn't inspire me.

    100% recommend it though. The first 20 minutes or so are wobbly, but it steadies out and becomes an excellent film after that. My biggest criticism of it is that they decided to make it a film rather than a miniseries. Would have loved to have it done over 8 hours rather than 2.

    Its an engrossing action film, with some excellent writing and some really solid performances.

    Spoiler lite but not spoiler free plot summary:
    Basic explanation of the plot without giving too much in the way of spoilers is "What would happen if immortals existed in todays world and PharmaBro found out about them.

    They teased a sequel at the end, and the Charlize Theron has tweeted something about a sequel as well. So fingers crossed that goes ahead.
     
  2. Zeelthor

    Zeelthor Scissor Me Timbers

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    Definitely should've been a series. Honestly, the couple's story alone would've made an insanely awesome movie.
     
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    I'm gonna be honest, I saw this and pretty much jizzed my pants cause I thought it was about the Order of the Phoenix back in their heyday.
     
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    Just finished it, and it was pretty excellent.

    It was a compact little story that worked well for what it was. I do wish there was more, though, a whole series would've allowed them to delve into the lore and such.

    I wanted to know why the immortality was failing. I was kind of speculating that it might have something to do with their current view on life. Like how Andy was just too tired of everything, and so her immortality started to fail her, and then there could be the possibility of gaining it back once she was made aware of all the good she'd done.
     
  5. Mordecai

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    @Rehio

    Completely agree, I wish that had been explored a bit. Even if it had been by throwing a few extra immortals into the back story and using them as an excuse for how Andy knows the answer. The "everyone has a time to die" thing was a bit hand wavy. Hopefully it gets explored in a sequel.

    @Zeelthor best gay couple I've seen in a film in a long time. Would love to see their story get explored.
     
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    Man I didn’t like it at all. 2/5

    The coolest part of the movie is that one of the immortals is eternally drowning in a cage beneath the sea. The dynamic between the immortals is probably the strongest facet of the story (including the one relationship)— they all feel like they’ve known other for lifetimes. The fight scenes were decent too. Everything else sucked though imo.

    Andy, the main character, is probably the worst part. She whines about how the world keeps getting worse and worse no matter what they do— which seems like a fine conflict for a newer immortal (like even 300 years old or something). But she’s over 2000 years old? This seems like angst she should’ve had centuries ago.

    I also hate the side villain (the guy that sold them out to the pharmaceutical ceo). He’s so dumb. “What do you mean Big Pharma is more focused on turning a profit than improving people’s lives??? I never would’ve given you the immortals if I knew that! You tricked me!!” The corporation is repeatedly called out as Big Pharma in the movie, and the ceo has the charisma of a walnut. I guess you can point to the side villain’s grief over his wife for his lack of reasonability but it’s so poorly done. At least make him insane or something. His mind-bending realization that corporation = for profit makes me want to head desk.

    When the side villain explains how great Andy is to the soldier girl, he goes on about “she saved this guy, whose grandson cured polio, whose daughter went on to free 1000 people from slavery, etc, look at how many people Andy’s actions saved!” Instead of detailing all exact things she’s done to save lives (of which I’m sure there are many) he gets all excited over the butterflies she had no control of. And that’s the part that convinces the soldier girl that Andy’s so great.

    I could go on forever.

    The whole movie felt like a patchwork of other movies. I went in wanting to enjoy it. Unfortunately not even my crush on Charlize Theron could overpower my hateboner for what my eyes witnessed on the screen.
     
  7. KHAAAAAAAN!!

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    Yeah, I thought it was pretty meh. Not awful, but it didn't impress me much either.

    The whole premise of the dude "revealing" to Andy and co. how positive their role in the world has been just made me roll my eyes. These fucknuggets just spent an entire movie flat out murdering Dudley's goons. And don't get me started on the statistical probability that their influence caused just as much bad in the world as it did good.
     
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    It's pretty disappointing to see a comic with such a distinct and cool style get turned into a movie that's shot like NCIS or generic MCU #3. Digital cinematography can look beautiful but so a lot of movies and TV end up just looking bland and smoothed out.
     
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    Gonna give it a try. Maybe it's a hidden Netflix gem like 6 Underground.
     
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    This was a bangin' good time. I want a sequel. I agree that their motivation and especially the ending scene were silly as fuck, but as a twist on a superhero movie, I enjoyed it. Now let's have an immortal supervillian. Maybe Jack the Ripper is immortal too and they pretend they don't know him because he's a huge douchebag.
     
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    Lmao there's an immortal who's been drowning alive for centuries in an iron coffin and you believe anyone else could be the supervillain.
     
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    That was so obvious I hope it's too obvious.
     
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    Me too. It feels inevitable but I'll be pretty disappointed if they go down that route.

    wanting revenge for not being rescued out of a metal box on the seabed is just a bit ehh as far as motivations go
     
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    Did you also love Extraction?

    I watched and thought both of them were decent, and fun. They're guilty pleasures more than anything for me. I expect this movie will be the same when I get around to watching it.
     
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    Thought Extraction dragged, way too long. I didn't see anything really attention-grabbing or worth my time in the talky scenes, so I just skipped past everything that wasn't action. Action was badass. Kinda John Wick-y like. Funny, that basically what I think of the John Wick movies too.

    Extraction seems like it tried to be Zero Dark Thirty. Could've at least done like Michael Bay and given me some humor. I didn't really care about Hemsworth's character and I don't even remember the name of the kid he was protecting.
     
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    Interesting, I see 6 underground and extraction to be basically the same movie. Though I can see your distinction, in that extraction was less... bombastic. More gritty. But I enjoyed both about the same.
     
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    Nah.

    1) Extraction is a kid escort mission
    2) Extraction has no humor
    3) 6U has Deadpool
    4) 6U is funny (though not everybody's kind of humor)
    5) 6U has a merry crew of misfits, Extraction has Chris Hemsworth Not Being Thor
    6) The opening of 6U immediately lets me know I'm in for a good time in a F&F kind of way
    7) MAGNETS
     
  18. Mordecai

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    Rewatched it with some friends last night when I was drunk. I had completely missed that PharmaBro is Dudley!
     
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    For shame, Mord, for shame. I had to point out Dudley to you in HDM too. Learn your HP celebs.
     
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    Really? If I saw enough of HDM to reach the part google tells me he's in, then I've blocked the whole thing from my memories. I know I wasn't impressed with episode 1, but I thought I'd stopped watching it at that point...
     
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