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Peace Talks Release Date

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by LittleChicago, Dec 16, 2019.

  1. Agayek

    Agayek Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    Murphy's roughly the same age as Dresden, which as-of Skin Game was mid-late thirties. Dresden's in his early-mid 20s in Storm Front (I wanna say 23, but could be wrong) and it's at most 15 years between Storm Front and Skin Game, likely closer to 12.

    Both Dresden and Murphy should be somewhere in the 35-40 range.
     
  2. Ched

    Ched Da Trek Moderator DLP Supporter

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    Murph is one of the best characters, you all suck. Can we kill Molly permanently instead? :p
     
  3. nahbutualright

    nahbutualright DA Member

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    How about Butters, so we can pretend the goddamn Lightsaber of the Cross never happened?
     
  4. Joe

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    I don't care what and of y'all say, I'm excited and looking forward to sinking into two new Dresden novels.

    @Lindsey thanks for posting that short story. I hadn't read it before now, but it made me happy.
     
  5. Zeelthor

    Zeelthor Scissor Me Timbers

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    Main argument for Murphy dying is the sheer amount of plot armour she's had over the course of the series, honestly. She's a great character (sometimes a shitty person) but I just feel like it's the sort of thing Butcher would do. Let Dresden/Murphy have some nice, cutesy, domestic bliss and then right before the big Peace Talks, she dies. Probably due to Fomor Fuckery. ;)

    Butters can also die because there's no way he beats Nicodemus and nothing will convince me of otherwise.

    As for Molly @Ched I am deeply troubled to hear such heresy from ya. :D

    Either way, two books. TWO FUCKING BOOKS YA'LL! :D
     
  6. Ched

    Ched Da Trek Moderator DLP Supporter

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    I wasn't a fan of Ghost Story. Cold Days was meh. But I did enjoy Skin Game. I'm hoping that those three will mostly encompass the "Changes" from the first half of the series to the second, and I'm greatly looking forward to these next ones.

    I haven't done a full re-read in a while. I think I read Books 1-4 twice. Books 5-11 though? At LEAST 3 times each, with some of them having been re-read half a dozen times. I'm contemplating doing a full re-read before the new ones come out or at least just 12-15, since I've only read Ghost Story and Cold Days once each.

    Fingers crossed we're back into badass territory from here forward... though I think I'll always miss some of the earlier books when Dresden was primarily a detective and secondarily a wizard. In hindsight it seems a bit like that's one of the fundamental things that Changes, well, changed. By the time Turn Coat came up, sure, the 'detective' part was centered on 'who killed the bigwig wizard' but still. I never quite realized that might be where the focus shift occurred until now - since Ghost Days he's been more a wizard/magical than a detective, for all that Ghost Days was about solving his own murder.

    Or am I just waxing poetic and seeing what I want to see?

    Looking forward to these books. If he can keep up a once-per-year release going forward he'll regain a lot of his momentum I think. One 'long' delay is one thing, but more than one will be exponentially harder to recover from, imo.
     
  7. soczab

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    I'm with you on ghost story. COuldnt care about that. I enjoyed Cold Days a good deal though. TBH ive not seen any decline in Butcher's work. Just the opposite actually. With the exception of Ghost Story (again meh) I actually feel like his books steadily improved over the series. The first couple like Storm Front or Fool Moon were ok but nothing special. I think his writing continued to improve with every book, hitting a peak somewhere around Proven Guilty and its pretty much stayed at that level since (again with the exception of ghost story)
     
  8. Zeelthor

    Zeelthor Scissor Me Timbers

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    This goes over a lot of the old established stuff such as how he came to write the books etc, but it also has him explain what happened to Peace Talks/Battle Ground.

    TLDR: Book ended up well over 300k words, with a hard-left turn at the middle, and the publishers went "uh dude, this is way too long." Hence the split into two books.

    On an unrelated topic, I am digging the beard.
     
  9. Seratin

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    Okay so turns out Murphy is 43/44 but still.
     
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