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The Trumperium 2: Caesar by the Pussy

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jon, Jun 15, 2017.

  1. Wildfeather

    Wildfeather The Nidokaiser ~ Prestige ~

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    Isn't Obama like actual Satan to those people? So the fact that Obama did it mean Trump should do the opposite?

    Idk I'm just old fashioned I guess. There's a giant statute with a big plaque on it. It's kind of famous. Anyway the plaque doesn't say "give me your well rested, well educated masses".
     
  2. Arthellion

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    Yeah my response to tthat is usually:

    "So you agree it's wrong and Trump should stop it?"
     
  3. Oment

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    At which point you probably get a lot of backpedaling and stuff.

    Trump is expected to use an EO to get the citizenship question in the 2020 census. This, by the way, comes after the courts ruled that no, the government cannot swap their lawyers out. (Except for those who have actually left the DoJ/relevant division.) From the order:

    This ongoing saga is teaching me that there's a surprising amount of snark in judicial writing...
     
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    Little curious about how the bolded is racist, just because it's not obviously so on its face.
     
  5. pbluekan

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    Alex Acosta, the secretary of labor, is resigning. No details on why.
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    Most people dealing with userous rates on payday loans are lower class. Most Black or Hispanic people in the US are in the lower and lower middle classes.

    It’s more of a ‘fuck you’ to poor people, but I don’t doubt it has racist or, at best, classist origins.
     
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    By circumstance, I assume. OTTMH: The loans in questions are disproportionally used by black people, the employment structure being what it is. And as the regulations was intended to protect people from ending up underwater, revoking presumably then does the opposite.

    Edit: Ninja'd.
     
  7. Oment

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    I believe the term is 'an untenable position', given what he was responsible for in the past and the increased scrutiny this has brought over the past week since Epstein was arrested. Mostly the second, given that the first obviously didn't change.

    It's only been four months since the entire thing broke into the public consciousness if you paid attention. Better late than never, probably?
     
  8. Oment

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    Meanwhile, as Trump tries to deflect attention away from the Epstein investigation / onto himself (because any publicity is good in his book) by being almost cartoonishly racist, and as the GOP stands by and furrows brows at best (sparsely and often ineffectively to boot), Roger Stone's found himself barred from all social media because he violated his previous gag order.

    Now, I'm not a betting man/woman/skeleton-lich-hellbent-on-world-domination, but it seems more likely than not that Stone's going to break this restriction as well at some point. I'm going to say... End of August.
     
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    You have far more faith in the man than I expected. End of July at the latest.
     
  10. Oment

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    You've got a point, but I'm assuming his lawyers (and family) are going to be like "[insert form of address], no!" for the first month.
     
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    You know what the sad shit is? This kind of stuff used to be news we’d talk over for a day or two. Now it’s just a short post and a comment or two.

    The desensitization is remarkable.
     
  12. Oment

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    It's treaded ground. Most of us will condemn it, there's a 32.333 % (repeating, of course) chance of someone doing a 'well, acksually' or 'muh both sides' post that ends in Xiph having to (threaten to) get his hammer out of storage because someone was goddamn wrong on the internet (with natural escalation), and all that good stuff.

    There's now a third Acting SecDef, though this time, it's because the previous one is being nominated for the actual job. The better part of a literal year with a caretaker in place in what I'd argue is one of the most sensitive positions in the world; it still amazes me.

    Kellyanne Conway defied a House subpoena yesterday as well, by the way. Something something Hatch Act.
     
  13. pbluekan

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    I’m all for innocent until proven guilty, but there’s a certain point where it’s just obvious you’re hiding something.
     
  14. Darth_Revan

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    She wasn't exactly subtle about it; she did it on live TV. And then said "ha, you and what army" also on live TV.
     
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    I’m honestly nervous we will see Trump test the boundaries of war powers if he is re-elected
     
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    I actually doubt that, tbh. It's one of his few good instincts, being skeptical and wary of interventionist military engagements.

    The problem is when that runs up against two of his other traits, those being 1) the overriding desire for a "win", and 2) his tendency to double down and get in over his head before he can pull back.

    If he were to get into a foreign war, with (let's just spitball) Iran, say, I think it'd be despite him and more because of those around him (Pompeo, Bolton, etc.).

    On a purely theoretical sense, though, how exactly do you envision the War Powers being tested any more than they already have been over the last 20 years?
     
  17. Erotic Adventures of S

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    Attacking a conventional Ally.
     
  18. Arthellion

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    ^ though I’d count Saudi Arabia in this as a potential.

    Honestly though I see him testing it in the opposite way. For example, using the president’s authority to control the military to blatantly refuse to follow through on treaty obligations.

    Like removing all our troops from Germany or something.

    On the other hand, using that power to secure the border, remove immigrants eyc

    Or if roe v Wade gets overturned use it to control states that refuse to comply

    Theoretical worse scenarios
     
  19. Oment

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    The Office of Special Counsel (no, not Mueller, the permanent organisation) did find that she had repeatedly violated the Hatch Act. I believe - but US-based DLPeople can probably be more accurate on this - that this is as high as it goes because nobody is ever dragged into actual court for violating it. Ergo, it's not exactly a stretch to believe that your phrase doesn't apply in this particular instance because, well, the evidence is apparently enough for the organisation responsible for investigating breaches of and maintaining the Hatch Act.

    Today's (well, yesterday's) prize for blatant lying has been snatched out of Trump's awaiting arms, by the way. Rep. Scalise, on never disrespecting Obama's office.
     
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