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Oneshot Undrentide by ExcentrykeMuse - T - [Harry/Astoria]

Discussion in 'Almost Recommended' started by Sesc, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    Title: Undrentide
    Author: ExcentrykeMuse
    Rating: T
    Genre: Romance/Supernatural
    DLP Category: Romance
    Pairing: Harry/Astoria
    Status: Oneshot, Complete
    Word Count: 15,456

    Link: http://harryhetbigbang.livejournal.com/6374.html?nojs=1

    Summary:
    AU. Chamber of Secrets never happened because Lucius Malfoy never slipped the diary into Ginny Weasley's books. Instead, it remained in his library, half forgotten ... until Astoria Greengrass found it.


    A darker variant of the diary idea, and one I quite enjoyed reading. It focuses on the characters, so don't expect any action; even the outside world is reduced to the bare necessities, though the small glimpses that were given are nice, including the by-the-way dismantling of both Daphne's name and the Fanon version of what arranged marriages are supposedly like. The end gets at least half a point extra.

    4.5/5


    Checked August 10, 2012:
    Story was removed from ff.net but is still available on the author's livejournal (thx to T3t)


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  2. T3t

    T3t Purple Beast of DLP ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I remember reading this, and liking it a lot more than Amortentia. Until the ending, which I hated. Still, probably library-worthy.
     
  3. Nuit

    Nuit Dark Lord

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    Eh, I couldn't read it all the way through. I had to force my self to even make it as far as I did. Well written though it may be, it just didn't catch my interest. 3.5/5
     
  4. Selethe

    Selethe normalphobe

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    4/5. It was pretty good, but I admittedly skimmed over some of it because of a lack of interest. A small thing that ticked me was how Astoria described Harry/Voldemort as having "Pureblood cheekbones," or "Muggle green eyes." I don't really see how muggles have their own colors in this case.

    3.5/4 rounded up because it was well-written, and the fitting end.
     
  5. yak

    yak Moderator DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    It was an unusual story. It's biggest fault is that it's uninteresting. There's little to keep the reader hooked.

    I'd ordinarily give it 3/5, but given that we don't have much like this in the library, I'll bump it to 4/5.
     
  6. Christinathewitch

    Christinathewitch Second Year

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    Didn't find it interesting at all. The fairy idea did nothing for me. While I admit there wasn't anything bad there was actually nothing that I liked though I skipped most of it as the style was uncompelling.
    The only thing that I found ok was the writing itself so imo this deserves: 2.5/5 rounded up to 3.
     
  7. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    It didn't catch my attention, more it fought me off from reading. It's a style of writing which is only an absence of bad things, with nothing inherently there to draw your interest.

    It took me a while to recognize the songfic element, but that definitely doesn't help either.

    It's an idea that hasn't been done before, but that the same time it isn't an idea that excites you.

    I'll give it a 3/5.
     
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  8. Euro

    Euro Sixth Year DLP Supporter

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    It's too plain, a hogwash of the Diary plot and worse; it's meant to be a tragedy and fails spectacularly. Even Romeo and Juliet had some fighting at least. Harry is totally OOC with his 'heroic' efforts.
    The whole story left me feeling like I hooked a fish while fishing and then I let it reel itself out to sea all the while crying for the the drama of it all. Waste of cyberspace and total tease with the pairing. I hate it.

    -1/5
     
  9. Richard

    Richard Supreme Mugwump

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    Boring as hell. I didn't like it, and the ending was disappointing as shit. 2/5 from me.

    Edit: Forgot to mention that there's basically no friggen pairing at all. Lame ass story.
     
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  10. Portus

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    You prettied up the gist of it a bit, Sesc. The top of the page has this:
    but that wasn't the worst part. This was the head-scratcher for me:
    Seriously? You "warn" us about mentions of prostitution, then cop out with the quasi-spoiler of possible character death and an ambiguous ending??

    Fuck you.

    BUT - I decided to give it a try, seeing as it's a one-shot and not a multi-chaptered monster I'd have to commit loads of time to reading. More after I address some other posts.

    I'll go ahead and tell you that's no reason to vote it into the Library. There are exceedingly few slash stories in the Library and if anything, the bar is set far higher for those kinds of stories because they're slash.

    IMO, fics involving character development (or whatever you want to call this one) should be voted based on merit and merit alone. The idea that DLP would have an affirmative action policy on its Library is pretty damn lulzy, now that I think on it.

    Wat. In case you haven't actually *read* the HP books, heroic!Harry is canon!Harry. Are you saying that the *way* he tries being heroic is OOC? Because that I could maybe agree with.

    ...

    So about the story. I liked it and I didn't like it. I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned how very creative the setting is, with the tree grafting and the kidnapped girl being placed in an enchanted sleep, etc. That right there impressed me more than any other part, and I applaud the author for it.

    As for the writing - meh. It was certainly good in that there were few spelling or grammatical errors. Nonetheless, the author was trying too hard to show how us what we already know (assuming we're not retards), and that is that the souls are merging or being consumed, etc.

    I mean, when the author goes to the trouble to point out to me that Astoria's thoughts on Harry called him into the dream, I go to the trouble to point out that I'm not a moron who needs to be hit over the head with explanations, thank you very much.

    Does anyone think that Harry knows trees well enough to notice that parts of one tree are different (other than wildly different leaves or bark color), or that he'd ever recognize a yew tree, FFS? Shit like this is mentioned in passing, but it's info that Harry would never, ever have picked up on so pointing it out in Harry's POV is just forced and dumb.

    That whole segment told from Tom's POV could have been left out completely, and if the author felt it so damned important to see that Diary!Tom might feel some smidgen of regret? Well show that somewhere else; don't write a whole overblown segment on it and cause my already terrible eyes to start bleeding.

    The entire "Draco fancies Astoria so-o-o much!" angle was unnecessary and reeks of either Mary-Sue self-insert or horrid slash leanings, and I can't quite decide which is more likely. I mean, Draco's internal thoughts contain this gem:
    And this one:
    And of course this one:
    :facepalm I mean really, would any reasonable approximation of Draco Malfoy be thinking ANY of that? Especially during sixth year, when he's supposed to bring Death Eaters into the school and, oh yeah, kill Dumbledore on the side.

    Then we have the aspect of sensitive!Draco being the only one who notices Astoria's deteriorating health, and I'm reminded of the worst kinds of Hurt/Comfort shit that populates Dramione and Snarry stories and whatever it's called when Draco rescues Harry from "that brute Vernon."

    I'll give the author credit for not writing a happy ending, but in all honesty, s/he probably couldn't decide whether her Astoria's savior should be Harry or Draco, and just decided on the "ambiguous" route.

    As I said, it has some creative parts and I'm actually glad I read it if for no other reason than the Olde English folk tale aspect. However, it was far less than it had the potential to be, and it could be cut approximately in half without losing anything. And the pairing is useless, since Astoria could literally have been anyone at all. I could do a find/replace using Susan, Hannah, even Ginny or Daphne, and this story would be workable. Hell, you could sub in Pansy for Astoria.

    Oh, and did anyone else notice that "undrentide" seems to come from a video game but apparently also means twilight? Seems like a bad omen, though the author doesn't have any Twilight fics (though she writes slash almost exclusively).

    One last thing: So the premise is that CoS never happened, and yet everything following it - PoA, GoF, and OotP - all happen just as in canon, right? How the fuck can that be?

    If Ginny never gets the Diary she never needs saving, and the Sword never becomes a Horcrux-killing Basilisk-venom-repository. More importantly, Harry never kills said Basilisk, which I view as one of his most defining moments - alone against a 50-foot killing machine, triumphing over almost-Voldemort, clueing Dumbledore in to Tom's Horcrux knowledge, freeing Dobby. You know, taking a huge step toward becoming a real hero.

    So if little Ginny never needs saving she needs a vacation even less, so there's far less chance that the Weasleys end up in Egypt and therefore on the cover of the Prophet. BAM! No reason for Sirius to escape and so no reason for Peter to be revealed and have to flee. Oops - so there's no reason for Peter to seek out Volde-wraith and so Crouch Jr. remains under his dad's control and not delivering Harry to baby-mort for the re-birthing.

    So-o-o. Harry is never entered into the Triwizard, Cedric is peachy, and there's no reason for anyone to think Voldemort's back, because he fucking ISN'T.

    All I'm saying is: If you're going to excise a major plot point (a whole book and all it entails and sets up, in this case), please PLEASE do us all a favor and at least TRY to explain why the FUCK everything *after* that missing element is still the goddamn same.

    I'm giving it a 3/5 because of the creativity (the Orfeo stuff, not that hand-wave shit of no CoS) and because I was interested enough to actually finish it.
     
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  11. Anarchy

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    I don't particularly like it. I'm way past the stage of upvoting a story for the pairing. Some parts of the story were too blatant and heavy handed, while some felt vague. The overall story telling was just plain and kind of uninteresting. And the plot itself... well, some people just don't get that being original doesn't necessary make a good story. There's a difference between being creative, and being good, And I don't think this story was particularly good,
    2.5/5
     
  12. Thaumologist

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    2/5

    It was readable, and I felt no urge to close the page, but I wouldn't have read more if it was a multi-part piece, and lots of the ideas were just used badly.

    We don't need this fairy stuff added. I assumed it was sort of meant as a red-herring, but only to other characters. Oh wait, they can't all read minds, so it doesn't matter. The references to the fae just seemed like an idea she'd read somewhere else and wanted to add in, but kind of wrecked in the doing.
     
  13. Starwind

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    The plot at the top of the page had me interested. The story fell short.

    2/5.
     
  14. Churchey

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    Great plot but huge problems in execution, most of which have already been mentioned.
    1 for being readable.
    1 for creativity.
    -.5 for using "If I Die Young" as songfic-esque time skip dividers. Because, realllllly?

    1.5/5, rounded down.
     
  15. Dark Syaoran

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    Basically, this. Started off well enough, then got boring. Never recovered.
     
  16. Jormungandr

    Jormungandr Prisoner

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    Seems like it has been removed from FFn.
     
  17. T3t

    T3t Purple Beast of DLP ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    The author is one of those "authors" who can't deal with FFN drama and took all her stories off. Fic can still be found here.
     
  18. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    If anyone wants to keep this, they should back it up. The author's livejournal account was just deleted and this story is pending removal.

    Or at least that's what this page says when I clicked on the author. Maybe I'm missing some part of livejournal or something.
     
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