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World Politics thread

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Erotic Adventures of S, Aug 1, 2017.

  1. Agayek

    Agayek Half-Blood Prince DLP Supporter

    Mar 20, 2009
    Well yeah, but that's different from the Republicans kowtowing to the Tea Party and Democrats capitulating to progressives how?

    It's at worst on par with what we've currently got, and in the general case significantly better.
  2. deyas

    deyas Seventh Year

    May 4, 2009
    New Mexico
    Much as I think I overall agree with you, @Zerg_Lurker, you are taking Chengar's next to final paragraph fairly out of context there. It seems fairly clear to me that that was a tangent on some of the (exceedingly well documented) failings of democracy, rather than any real desire for a dictatorship. You don't have to look for very long, or very far into history, to see many examples of a dictatorships being more skilled at thinking long term than the average democracy is.

    Yes, there are of course examples of dictatorships acting counter to their own best interest, that being staying in power in the long term, but they will tend to trend towards a direction of maintaining power, which means effective long term planning; much as democracies will tend to trend towards focusing entirely on short term political gains, at the cost of any type of long term, centralized planning, with regards to anything from diplomacy, to infrastructure.
  3. Chengar Qordath

    Chengar Qordath The Final Pony ~ Prestige ~

    Apr 12, 2008
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    Pretty much this. Long-term planning is hard when all the top people could get replaced in the next election, and if they're replaced it will be usually be by people who want to tear down everything the last guy built and go in a radically different direction. Trump's a great example of how much of a problem this is for diplomacy: every election the government could potentially reverse course on all it's previous agreements.

    (And just to be clear, the number 1 problem with just about every non-democratic form of government is making sure the person in charge isn't a shithead, and if they're not making sure that their successor won't be one. If monarchy or similar systems could consistently produce a stable line of competent leaders they never would have gone out of fashion.)
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2019