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J22
08-12-2008, 03:10 AM
Hey, I was looking for something good to read and just wondered what is the best fic outside of HP?
Obviously anything Dresden is usually good and there are alot of good Naruto fics but anyone got any recs for me?
Thanks in advance.

Narf
08-12-2008, 03:14 AM
http://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?t=7244

http://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?t=1102

...

So I'm guessing you didn't search the forums at all, as the Naruto thread is pretty active.

J22
08-12-2008, 03:43 AM
Yeah sorry, wasn't really specific about that but I meant fandoms outside of naruto and Dresden as well as HP. Kinda worded that badly.

headbanger22
08-12-2008, 04:12 AM
Right we will start with Stargate crossovers.

This one is a Babylon 5/Stargate crossover.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2938558/1/Stargate_Thirdspace

This one is a Stargate/battlestar crossover.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/1/Reunions_are_a_Bitch

This one is for Darksiders Spearhead series witch is a Stargate AU.
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/185761/Darksider

That's all the Stargate fic's I can think of at the moment so on to other stuff.

This one's pure Babylon 5, but I warn you that it's over a million words long.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2594689/1/The_Dilgar_War

And last two I recommend are not on fanfiction.net but well worth a look.
"Armageddon??" on stardestroyer.net
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=118771
And Rise Of The Tau on the black library forum
http://forum.blpublishing.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=216&PN=1

If I think of any more I will let you know.

Banta
08-12-2008, 04:32 AM
Yeah sorry, wasn't really specific about that but I meant fandoms outside of naruto and Dresden as well as HP. Kinda worded that badly.

Any specific fandoms?

Robo Jesus
08-12-2008, 06:22 AM
Right we will start with Stargate crossovers.

This one is a Babylon 5/Stargate crossover.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2938558/1/Stargate_Thirdspace

This one is a Stargate/battlestar crossover.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/1/Reunions_are_a_Bitch

This one is for Darksiders Spearhead series witch is a Stargate AU.
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/185761/Darksider

That's all the Stargate fic's I can think of at the moment so on to other stuff.

This one's pure Babylon 5, but I warn you that it's over a million words long.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2594689/1/The_Dilgar_War

And last two I recommend are not on fanfiction.net but well worth a look.
"Armageddon??" on stardestroyer.net
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=118771
And Rise Of The Tau on the black library forum
http://forum.blpublishing.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=216&PN=1

If I think of any more I will let you know.

The author of The Dilgar War has also done a lot of other stories, not including some guest work for other authors. On most forums he goes by the screenname of Lightning_Count, and he is as prolific as he is good.:)

Here are some of his other stories that I can find.

Stargate: Chronicles of the Crusade (http://forum.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=89250)

Iron Star (http://forum.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=136631) (An amusing snippit)

A Matter of Conscience (http://forum.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=66942)

Star Wars: Birth of the Republic (http://forum.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=68346)

The Last Warmaster (http://forum.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=103429) (Dilgar War sidestory)

The Lost Way (http://forum.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=121826) (SW story)

Forged in Fire (http://forum.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=128935) (a very amusing tale involving two 'blood sucking' lawyers, a hellmouth, a demon invasion, nuclear terrorism, the marines from Aliens, and the Governator doing what he does best:D)

Star Trek, The Looming Shadow (http://forum.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=71966) (abandoned due to excessively annoying fanboys who wouldn't shut up, though the story is still interesting)

Abyss (40K) (http://forum.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=131337)

The Last Star (http://forum.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=131847) (Set during the final six months of the Earth/Minbari War)



He's also done a lot of guest writing for other authors as well (A Thin Vineer (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1944628/1/A_Thin_Veneer) as an example). He'll have another story out sometime this October (he's said he wants to focus almost exclusively on that story for a while before he gets back to a few of his other stories).

Taure
08-12-2008, 07:57 AM
Best Stargate/BSG crossover ever:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2644549/1/Derelict_A_Stargate_nBSG_crossover

Sorrows
08-12-2008, 08:55 AM
If your into Buffy the Vampire Slayer then there is a whole website of crossovers http://www.tthfanfic.com/

yak
08-12-2008, 09:49 AM
Here's a bunch of good crossovers:

This is a quick distillation of the pure gold crossovers I've come across over the years. There was a lot of near-gold that didn't make the cut. Often I don't care for the TV shows and books that the following fics are based on. These fics were chosen because they are bloody good; not because "ZOMG! HP/My Little Pony is so *squee*!".

Mhalachai's, Balancing Act. Anita Blake/Stargate SG1.
http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-8996/Mhalachai+Balancing+Act.htm

jAkL's, Far Beyond Normal. Buffy/Stargate SG1.
http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-8322/jAkL+Far+Beyond+Normal.htm

LMouse's, A Slayer of Nightmares. Buffy/Inu Yasha.
http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-11233/LMouse+A+Slayer+of+Nightmares.htm

Gabriel Blessing's, Finishing What You Start. Ranma/Sailormoon.
http://www.geocities.com/ranikkoku/gabriel_blessing.html

John Biles & Rod M's, Children of an Elder God. Evangelion/Lovecraft.
http://www.thekeep.org/~rpm/eva/coaeg.html

WFRose's... Everything. He's a prolific master of Ranma crossovers. Silence of the Lambs, Duke Nukem 3D, Panzer Dragoon Saga, American McGee, Jet Set Radio, Zelda, etc. etc. His story telling is very good. He's disciplined.
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/57925/

Rakna's, Chosen. Evangelion/Elseworlds. Not actually a crossover, though it is very similar to them. The alternate fantasy universe that the fic is set in could have easily come from another anime series like Legend of Lodoss Wars or Rayearth.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/285515/1/Chosen

Other good fics:

Jus Ad Bellum (http://seperis.illuminatedtext.com/movieverse/jusadbellumindex.html), by Jenn - X-men

From the authors notes:2.) If you're a fan of the sci-fi/fantasy/horror genres, the trigger is going to be somewhat familiar to you, though I've done some heavy remodeling since what I read won't work with the storyline I have in mind. The writer was Jack Finney and the book was called "The Third Level". If you get a chance, read it. Spooky doesn't begin to describe. My first reference to it was while reading Stephen King's "Danse Macabre", which utterly intrigued me in how it's the simple things that really take your mind on a major trip. I just wish I could have thrown in some Lovecraftian geometry theory so triangles wouldn't equal 180 every time, but maybe another day.

3.) Research: If I cited everything, this would be longer than the story. Let's keep with the stuff I had on my desk while writing.

"Schindler's List" by Thomas Keneally; "The Prince" by Machiavelli; and "The Defeat of the Mind" by Alain Finkielkraut (VERY quotable book, btw). Specific quotes are cited in the text. More internet articles than I can remember, and all my notes from my WWII in Film and Lit. class.

Warning: This story deals with many controversial themes; racism, terrorism, war, violence, sexual situations, both consensual and non; and mature situations. Adults only, please.

Phoenix Burning (http://www.thechicagoloop.net/yahtzee/insect/insectfic/PhoenixIndex.htm), by Yahtzee - Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Buffy is resurrected into a dystopian future where a corrupted Council of Watchers rules London and the nation is under siege by vampires.

Ill Met By Starlight (http://www.thekeep.org/~mike/imbs.html), by Susan Doenime and Mike L. - Ranma 1/2. This story is even darker than Jus Ad Bellum and Phoenix Burning. If you haven't read Ranma 1/2 then it might not mean much to you. It's been a long time since I read this, and my standards have changed, but from scanning a few pages just now it is still the same high quality that I recall.

Red Moon (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/435276/1/Red_Moon), by Fire - Sailor Moon. It's something of a political satire. While not technically perfect, I found it very amusing. It is certainly far different from any other fic I've read. Sailor Moon is a dyed-in-the-wool commie and is determined to use her new powers to turn Japan into a communist utopia. :D

Unrealized Peacekeeper (http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/oneeyes_fanfiction/), by OneEye - Farscape AU. It's about 1.5MB. It hasn't been updated in years, but it's still well worth reading. John Crichton works for the Peacekeepers instead of fighting them. Sweet holy Jesus, it's been updated!

Author's Note: The following story was born from a single scene in the 4th season Farscape episode, "Unrealized Reality"; those of you who have seen the episode will probably recognize which scene almost immediately. For those of you who HAVEN'T seen the episode, the prologue could be considered a spoiler for the scene in question, and maybe for the episode as a whole.

I got to thinking about that scene after watching the episode, and wondering what small change might have happened to lead John Crichton down that road, to become that man. The answer I ended up with was simple: the wormhole that brought him to the UTs deposited him about ten feet to the right of his original exit point. That's all.

Darkness Rising (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/197914/1/Darkness_Rising) and Rage of the Si'Frant (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/965676/1/Rage_of_the_SiFrant) by Alex Foster - Zelda. I can only vaguely remember the plots from these two stories which isn't that surprising since they're from 2001-02. The author continues to write good, if slightly emo, fanfiction today. He has a good grasp of characterisation and motivations. Both fics were adventure, iirc. Besides writing Zelda fanfiction, he's the only person writing Buffy Season 8 fanfic that I've come across.

The Bitter End (http://www.allaboutranma.com/fanfics/Bitter_End/bitterend.html), by Zen - Ranma 1/2. An epic one shot. Like Red Moon, this may not be brilliant technically, but it is so different to everything else out there that it must be mentioned. It's a dark fic on spousal abuse. Highly recommended. Whenever people in HP fandom make the mistake of thinking that 'one shots' are 'short fics' this is the first fanfic that jumps to mind to dispel that misconception.

Zen's writing style is very good at evoking emotion and characterizations. Zen uses this with great skill in The Bitter End. He makes you involved, making you want to step in and do something, you feel it. It is a testament to his writing skill that The Bitter End is the fic that it is.

Not actually fanfiction, but close:

Sailor Nothing (http://www.pixelscapes.com/sailornothing/), by Stephan Gagne. It takes the 'magical girl' trope and turns it dark. It's an experimental piece of fiction that is mainly, but not entirely, told through text. The author mixes it up in a bunch of different formats. Some of the story is told with 8-bit RPG-style graphics with crude animations, film script, daily planners, and more. Gagne has gone on to create some hilarious Never Winter Nights mods.

Being a sailor suited warrior of love and justice is one of the most miserable, thankless, dangerous, and emotionally crippling jobs ever. A bitter little trip into the darker side of shoujo.
Unreal Estate (http://pixelscapes.com/unrealestate/), by Stephan Gagne. It's full of nerd humour that is seamlessly integrated into the story. If you like jokes about Blue Sky of Death, online multiplayer gaming, and Windows vs Linux, then this is the fic for you. I'll say it again: the nerdy references are very well done, and are not gratuitously shoved in there to annoy you every time you come across them. If you're not, and have never been, a computer and anime nerd, then don't bother.

Just your basic science fiction action comedy original-anime style reality bending love story, with a twist.

As the World Dies (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2552003/1/As_The_World_Dies), by Rhiannon Frater. It's a lengthy zombie apocalypse fic. A female lawyer and a battered house wife escape the city as chaos rises up around them. They struggle to survive in the new world. It's both a dark and uplifting story. The author has since taken it all down except for the first chapter. A revised version is due to be released as a novel in three days, on August 15.

Read the first chapter on ff.n and if you like it enough I might be inclined to send you the remaining 210 chapters. Lesbian themes FTW.

nonjon
08-12-2008, 11:41 AM
This seems like a less than stellar idea and request. One of the biggest differences between fanfiction and original fiction is the audience. Fanfictions are written for people at least familiar with a fandom and its fictional world. Fanfics are for people who are clearly fans of the characters, the universe, and the original source material. (Yes, there's a point where some of the most diehard of fans begin to hate their fandom, but for the most part this is true.)

So identifying the best, let's say, Sopranos fanfiction won't necessarily lead to an enjoyable reading experience unless you are a fan of the Sopranos. Or at least, it won't be as enjoyable to Joe Schmoe as it would be to a big Sopranos fan.

You're better off just thinking of movies, books/comics, or tv shows you like and seeking out the popular fanfictions there.

Fanfiction is like writing the sequel to something extremely popular, only your audience has zero expectations of your sequel living up to the original. They just want to see the world they know expanded on.

But if you've not seen the original or didn't like it, you won't appreciate the truly "Greats of FF" out there.

I'm just saying.

On a more related and completely objective note, I'll say this Superman (Smallville) story is absolutely hilarious: The Incredibly Dense Mind of Lois Lane (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3294180/1/).

Banner
08-12-2008, 11:54 AM
A Buffy/SW crossover:
http://www.tthfanfic.com/wholestory.php?no=7119#chapter1
The Terran Jedi

yak
08-12-2008, 06:16 PM
One of the biggest differences between fanfiction and original fiction is the audience. Fanfictions are written for people at least familiar with a fandom and its fictional world. Fanfics are for people who are clearly fans of the characters, the universe, and the original source material.
I've often been introduced to new fandoms via the fanfiction, rather than the other way around. Fanfiction crossovers are especially good at this. Our collective introduction to the Dresden Files is a case in point.

I'm just saying. ;)

I completely agree with you that there are better ways for J22 to find decent fics in the fandoms he likes. I wrote my post as a scattershot blast of high quality fics across a spectrum of fandoms. It may or may not hit upon a fandom that J22 likes, but I'm hoping that a few entries intrigue enough people that it wasn't a waste.

Also, I wanted to make a post that I could refer back to in the future the next time someone asks the question. It fills that role nicely.

della_couer
08-12-2008, 07:16 PM
Nonjon makes a good point, really you find the best fics in the stories that already interest you. Crossovers always have unique audiences in that respect. You essentially need a fan of two genres, or someone who is enough a fan of one to not mind reading something that incorporates another. But I have great time reading crosses that don't seem to naturally incorporate the others. (Let's face it, there are certain genres that compliment each other or that are more manageable to mix.)

One I found that very well done was a House and Sherlock Holmes cross. The idea of the two genres crossing made me have to check it out and the storyline was actually well planned and, even better, complete.

A Case of House and Holmes
By: Michael Weyer
Found on FF.net Here (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3145416/1/)

If you have any inclination toward the show House I think you'll enjoy watching these two intellectuals solve a crime.

Robo Jesus
08-13-2008, 04:50 AM
I can't believe I didn't post this the first time around.><

This story is one of the greats in the Evangelion fandom. Ladies and Gentlemen, I hereby present, Shinji and Warhammer40k (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3886999/1/).

The name may seem odd, but don't let it fool you. This is an epic story. This takes the Evangelion universe, and shows how it can progress beyond what happened in the original series, progressing beyond almost all of the Evangelion fics seen out there (that only seem to be direct rehashes of the original series). The only other Evangelion fanfiction which even comes close to how entertaining, unique, and utterly epic this story has become is the Evangelion crossover fanfic Children of an Elder God (http://www.thekeep.org/~rpm/eva/coaeg.html), yet even that does not surpass how truly fucking awesome Shinji and Warhammer40k has turned out to be.:D

J22
08-13-2008, 12:24 PM
@nonjon: I know what you mean but the well seems to be drying up pretty quick on anything good I havn't read and that isn't slash. I've only recently started branching out into other fandoms and have read some good ones straight off the bat, could say I'm eager for something new. Also I tend to read new fandoms in the form of crossovers then get into the cannon afterwards.

As for specifics... X-men, Smallville/Superman, SW and anyone know of any good Dark Tower fics?

As for the recs thankyou all. I'm not a fun of Star Trek or Warhammer but many of the other shall be read.

Edit: Oh and House, need some good House fics.

Iztiak
08-13-2008, 04:36 PM
Jus Ad Bellum, by Jenn - X-men

...You have no idea how much I wish there were more X-men stories as good as this.

J22
08-13-2008, 04:52 PM
Sweet, I'll have a look. It was actually world that waits that got me into x-men so thankyou to della-coeur (or however the fuck you spell it).

Robo Jesus
08-13-2008, 05:51 PM
As for the recs thankyou all. I'm not a fun of Star Trek or Warhammer but many of the other shall be read.

I'm sorry, but Warhammer40K makes everything better. That fic is the fundamental proof of that fact!:D

Imagine Calvin and Hobbes. Now replace Calvin with Shinji right after his father abandoned him, and Hobbes with 'Space Marine', 'Chaos Space Marine', 'Eldar Farseer', and 'Ork Warboss'. Now imagine things falling into even greater insanity from there as Shinji grows up.

Read the first chapter at the very least. It really is worth it.

J22
08-13-2008, 05:57 PM
I'm sorry, but Warhammer40K makes everything better. That fic is the fundamental proof of that fact!:D

Imagine Calvin and Hobbes. Now replace Calvin with Shinji right after his father abandoned him, and Hobbes with 'Space Marine', 'Chaos Space Marine', 'Eldar Farseer', and 'Ork Warboss'. Now imagine things falling into even greater insanity from there as Shinji grows up.

Read the first chapter at the very least. It really is worth it.

Hmm... I'm still not feeling it. Might help if I knew who any of those people actually were...

HomicidalPsychoJungleCat
08-13-2008, 06:10 PM
...you don't know Calvin and Hobbes?:eek:

Iztiak
08-13-2008, 06:28 PM
You, poor, poor soul.

Go to Barnes & Nobel, or any big bookstore around. Find Calvin and Hobbes. Read them all. ALL

nonjon
08-13-2008, 06:38 PM
Well, I'd never call him "great" but Agent-G (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/522267/Agent-G) has a pretty big body of work that is generally average to above average. Not spectacular but a decent way to pass the time. (And not pairing or smut-centric which it seems to fester in other fandoms even more than HP). A couple of his longer fics are about Spider-Man joining up with the Justice League (Justice League: The Spider has a sequel ongoing), Spider-X (with spidey and the X-Men evolution crew), The New Teacher (where Peter Parker teaches at Xavier's special school), etc. A number of them are all complete and 100,000+ words.

As far as eye-rolling attempts at romance, Eight Simple Rules for Dating Greg House (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3067268/1/) was a ficlet on livejournal or somewhere that spawned a number of imitators. Fluffy, cute, and good characterization in a short one-shot.

Déjà Vu (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3021435/1/) by htbthomas is a decent long finished fic that follows up from the newest 'Superman Returns' movie. (Don't get me started on what a retarded drama of a movie that was.)

yak
08-13-2008, 07:47 PM
Read the first chapter at the very least. It really is worth it.
Don't despair Robo Jebus!

I'll be reading your favourite Eva/WH40k fic soon. I find it difficult to believe that it could possibly be better than Children of an Elder God. I have to check it out for myself. :p

...You have no idea how much I wish there were more X-men stories as good as this.
I wish there were more fics as good as Jus Ad Bellum in any fandom that I read. I've read some other decent X-Men fics, but this one clearly stands head and shoulders above the rest. The time and research that the author put into it shows.

Poytin
08-14-2008, 09:18 PM
Thousand Shinji (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3946501/1/Thousand_Shinji) Another Eva/Warhammer40K crossover. This one isn't so much about the troops as about the religion.

knothead
08-14-2008, 09:38 PM
Here's an entertaining Vor Universe fanfic I read several years ago (http://www.suros.com/juan/writing/vor.html). I still think it's awesome.

Robo Jesus
08-15-2008, 03:36 AM
One I found that very well done was a House and Sherlock Holmes cross. The idea of the two genres crossing made me have to check it out and the storyline was actually well planned and, even better, complete.

A Case of House and Holmes
By: Michael Weyer
Found on FF.net Here (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3145416/1/)

If you have any inclination toward the show House I think you'll enjoy watching these two intellectuals solve a crime.

I recently got to read a little of this. I'm very much liking it. Thank you.:)


Hmm... I'm still not feeling it. Might help if I knew who any of those people actually were...

Calvin & Hobbes is a very well known comic strip that was in print for a good decade (1985 to 1995 I think). It's about an imaginative six-year old boy (Calvin), and Hobbes, his energetic and sardonic-albeit stuffed-tiger. Very well known throughout most of North America, as well as semi-known in Europe.

Warhammer40K can be explained pretty well HERE. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Warhammer40000) I would suggest you read this if you wish to understand WH40K, as it explains it pretty well. Do not skip over the examples, as even though the list of examples is long, it's probably more informative than the main article (as saying it's a dark grim place doesn't convey what it really is until you start looking at the examples of just how fucked up a setting it really is (and you realize that it's getting worse)).

The rest of the characters are from a very well known, though either 'loved or hated' anime by the name of Evangelion, which is considered a must watch recommendation by a good majority of Anime fans.


Thousand Shinji (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3946501/1/Thousand_Shinji) Another Eva/Warhammer40K crossover. This one isn't so much about the troops as about the religion.

Ahh, Thousand Shinji. It certainly had one of the most unique endings of any Evangelion fanfic, that's for damn sure, but the rest of it was a basic rehash of canon (though it was given the changes needed to actually create the end it had). Characterization within Thousand Shinji also felt a bit... forced. It's sequel though, The Open Door (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4320933/1/The_Open_Door), I feel is a far more entertaining read.:D


Nonjon makes a good point, really you find the best fics in the stories that already interest you. Crossovers always have unique audiences in that respect. You essentially need a fan of two genres, or someone who is enough a fan of one to not mind reading something that incorporates another. But I have great time reading crosses that don't seem to naturally incorporate the others. (Let's face it, there are certain genres that compliment each other or that are more manageable to mix.)

The problem is that most crossovers either #1. don't give the information needed to help you understand the fic you're reading (or the context and universe it's set in), #2. piss on the spirit and or respect of one (or both) series (turning it into a gratification fic, instead of a compelling story), or #3. don't understand the universe(s) they're using in their story.

I'm not going to link to any fic like that, crossover or not, as they're usually shit to begin with.

Shinji and Warhammer40K has set up the story to where the Angels are now essentially in an Arms race with humanity, and they're evolving, changing, and coming up with new and horrifyingly scary shit in the process. For example...Iruel, the Angel who appeared as a small colony of nanites in the anime/manga, and who focused on infecting NERV's computers and getting into the Geofront that way is now, at chapter 30, a floating battlestation over six miles in diameter with a lot of 'other' upcoming surprises as well that make everything that Nerv can bring to bear against it (including fucking Hellbores) almost utterly worthless.

And that's not even touching on how Kaworu has become the 'Eldrad' of this fic.

And that's just an example from the latest chapter. So, the Angels are actually changing and adapting in this arms race, making the entire fic actually evolve into something new and unique in comparison to the series rehashes that are so common in most other fanfics. The fact that the battle scenes are utterly EPIC is just a major major bonus to the major character development, insane originality, and utter uniqueness of Shinji and Warhammer40K.:D

You should see the plot idea he came up with for Bleach. Fuck it, I'll paste it here so you won't have to go looking around for it.:p


I have a hard time swallowing that samurai-love Soul Society would serve the entire planet. No. Never. As far as afterlife ideas go, the mere fact that it looks like the set for a samurai movie marks it as a young concept. China has billions of people, having been conquered and reconquered, people dying in droves. They don't show up on Soul Society. Hell, if they woke up in a Japanese-themed afterlife right after World War II (which of course, HAS to impact any Soul Society somehow) they'd probably burn the place to the ground.

Aizen is devious. Urahara is brilliant. Mayuri is just plain creepy. Think of Soul Society as an IDEA of an afterlife, a shared concept given form. They are impressive characters in their own right.

But how do they compare to, say... Imhotep?

This is the true father of medicine, builder of pyramids, head priest, artist, adviser on matters of state. This was a man so good at what he does that people began to worship him as a god. He didn't need to find the Throne. Those pyramids are big freaking ressurection machines. It doesn't matter that they didn't work in real life. In the context of Bleach' fictional reality, the sheer amount of effort, belief, rituals, pharaohs stubbornly determined to rule in the next life as in this, and those that died constructing the damn things means that they had better do something. It's like Batman and his prep-time. He's older than the pyramids. Given thousands of years and the knowledge of real magic (or at least poorly-diguised kidou) what could he accomplish?

Soul Society and the Shinigami are impressive, but there has to be other Soul Societies out there. China, as already implied, is ancient and has to have its own structure for the afterlife. How about valkyries and Valhalla, where freaking EVERYBODY is like freaking Zaraki? Australia... actually, Australia might not need Soul Society. Dreamtime is not linear, it screws around with your perception of reality. Everything's connnected. EVERYTHING. I doubt Hollows could even remain coherent in the outback (there's also that the Outback is a desert; pitiful poor selection of souls).

India has all those tantric values. You gonna pass that shit up? Yeah, baby, let's fire up that chakra. The dead can feel pain. Surely the opposite sensation also applies.

Note that I'm staying away from the Judeo-Christian/Islamic mythos. Heaven is a vauge concept at best, it's a philosophical minefield, and we'd have to deal with a lot of people who wake up pissed off that they're not in Paradise.


Hollows form from derelict souls. In the show, we see that Orihime's brother turns into a Hollow simply because she stopped paying attention. What? Pardon me sir, but that's just... weak. Try Africa, that over there is not just ancient, it's pre-historic. There might be horrors bubbling in that dark, dreary continent that would frighten the shit out of Hollows. Living people embracing whole-heartedly the ideals of a Hollow; death is as much a fact of life as breathing. Therein lies the roots of man, savage and unflinching. There's no time, no room, no chance for regrets. Survive! Only that.


Now, either Hollows are a relatively recent manifestation (chains? what about peoples who don't have any idea of metal? [mangaka design fiat aside]) or that it changes depending on which Soul Society they are part of. Yes, part of. There's leakage due to the steady intermingling of cultures, but essentially Hollows are but another form of soul; which in itself is a matter of identity. Even Shinigami must change depending on which cultural region they serve.

The gratuitous use of Spanish (well, Mexican) bothers me. Why? How does it fit into the internal reality of Bleach; adding that again, like hell it's the world's only soul society. We need to see more black and brown people otherwise.

Here's the idea. Hueco Mundo is Mictlan. It's been taken over by Hollows. Its Gods are dead, killed by, well... Cortes. Either that or one big massive enHollowment of its populace as they were massacred, raped, and their lands exploited. The death of a civilization, a cultural idea, is also the death of its Soul Society. (This might also spell similar doom to Egypt; except that they were a lot less insular. Greece and later Rome played an important part. These ancient cultures might have mixed together to form something that could stand on its own. The dead over there maintain the cohesion of their realm.)

How does it link up with Japan's Soul Society then? I don't really have any idea. What I'd like to postulate though is that the natural home of Japanese Hollows is not Hueco Mundo but the fringes of Soul Society. That's even how Menos Grandes can get to Earth; using the link between Soul Society and the living world.

Which leads to the Quincy. That sounds British. Why are the last members of that family line Japanese? Once more, no idea. The imbalance of souls doesn't seem to hold water in the fact that there are more and more people on this world than ever before. Are souls being created from somewhere? Or are we instead manifestations of a pool of primal power, given definition only through our separate identity?

Aren't there animals in Soul Society? They're hungry. They've got to eat something. Are those souls, or made out of society's need for food, companionship, or sport?


Regardless, here's the idea.

There's this Ranma 1/2 fic which doesn't have Ranma in it at all. It's set in the Wild West, where a boy is cursed to change sexes when splashed with cold water. It uses the Ranma conventions, but just by being set in a totally different culture it becomes an interesting new story all on its own. Macho Caballo, I think...

What if we apply the same treatment to Bleach?

Or at least present alternate Soul Societies. The incongruity lies in either having a character travel to other society, but that opens up a whole nest of OC problems. Curbstomping, though fun for the writer, don't really make for much good reading (the image of a Space Marine waking up in Soul Society still amuses me, though. That's like 100% distilled spiritual willpower right there. What could his Bankai be like? Purge the unclean! Eat chainsword! WhhhrrraAAANGGGGGHHKK).

This is what I really want to write, though.


There's this young man, right? He's got blond hair. He's got a sword that's basically a big meat cleaver that he can't shrink down. He's in this afterlife that he doesn't really understand, but he's so stupidly powerful everyone either wants to kill him or follow him. He hates the attention. He doesn't remember who he is, or what he should be doing. He has struggled with regret, having a white skull mask that he can pull out and wear. His attack is this blue light that cuts into things. With it, he is determined to put an end to the chaos in the afterlife.

His sword is unleashed by saying "Light my way, Scriptor Lunae!"

He isn't sixteen years old, with no clear goals, and unsure of his powers. He is a man who wants only peace, and will gather others who think the same way. The land is brutal, ruled by those with hollow souls. There are no protectors in death.

He is a protector of man. And he shall do so, in death saving whereas in life he has sent too many into their deaths.

His enemy is Hollow Pharaoh, fueled by the energies channeled into the afterlife by his pyramid. The only resistance so far is a single old man. Stooped over, in keeping with anime convention a little perverted. Then when need arises, BAM! Excuse me? What are you trying to do? I INVENTED that system of spiritual arts you're using against me. He can actually hear people praying, but unfortunately it manifests at odd times of the day as an itch he just can't scratch. He has crafted special limiters for his powers just to keep them at bay.

Hell is what you make of it. Power demands sacrifice. The Hollows took the easy way to it, giving up mortality and morality. The blond-haired hero will, with the help of a crusty old priest, an exuberant giant of man, and a prescient nubian girl craft a civilized society for these helpless souls.

After all, making cities was also part of his job description while alive.


Okay, enough with the pointless teasers. Ichigo takes power boosts and improves ungodly fast. The explanation seems to be that he's born of a shinigami father, he's trained by the finest genius that Soul Society ever produced, and that his enemies are that just that much more experienced and powerful as well. He needs to catch up.

This somehow rubs me the wrong way. He's cool but it still seems like power that's undeserved. Luffy, for example, deserves his power. It's just being a rubber man; but his personality and conviction makes it even more than that. Everything in his life has been given over to one goal; being the Pirate King. Everything. Ichigo just gets even more stupidly powerful because the plot calls for it. To protect loved ones is good and noble reason, true. He does take a beating the meantime. Something still seems lacking, though. That line crossing from hero to truly epic badass.

Alexander the Great as a shinigami-equivalent would be stupidly powerful because he's Alexander the Great. In the afterlife, everyone begins anew. The powerful even lose most of their memories. The only thing that matters is what they can make out of their own two hands. Some take radical personality shifts. Others reach for power, but it has to come from within and their own willpower. The zanpakto are said to be a 'portion of oneself, called for in a time of need'? Abilities and appearance reflect their weilder; Ichigo has mentor-like figure and a brute cutting power. Byakuya gets delicate but deadly, street kid Renji gets a strange amalgam of creatures that stubbornly reforms itself... etc, etc. Alexander's sword is well, identical to Ichigo; but for a different reason.

In personality, Alexander always wanted to know more. He took on the reins of power at his father's death. He was looked upon as the supreme word by countless people. His sword would take on a wise, experienced traveler to give him wisdom. The attack reflects his drive to get it done, quickly and directly. One does not conquer most of the known world in his day by hesitating or taking the long route. He was one of, if not the last general to fight with his troops on the battlefield. If only he had lived, and pushed to the west. There would be less resistance than heading east... Spain would be sporting several Alexandrias by now. What Rome took through might and kept through fear, Alexander would take by the sheer force of personality. He was followed by a veritable city, the power behind his blade was the splendor of his culture.

Blood was not needed.

Just a place to put up a city, token obeisance, and the Hellenic influence spreads further. If only he had an heir. It would make the Pharaohs weep in envy; considering that they already made Alexander a Pharaoh over all Egypt.

Damn. That's what bad-asses in fiction are derived from. Even if we're heading somewhat in yaoi territory; though he was Greek and he did marry an Indian princess he loved very much. At worst, bi. The man could not be contained by limits. He broke them utterly, such was his will.

The incongruity is the conqueror as a protector, a warrior as a renewed innocent and inflicting a variety of humorous, humiliating things upon a figure of awe. In death, make him human again. I can excuse a lot of OOCness upon a. a loss of memory, and b. Alexander's so long dead that he's practically public domain.

^_~


+ Imhotep, like many others, lost much of his memory upon being remade into the afterlife. He is one of the few now who completely remember his life as a mortal. He was living then a simple life, a potter, having taken the name Phanas (as common a name then as Harry is now*). Aimless itching had plagued him for so long, but he attributed it to being so old; even in the shape of death. One day it rose to a fever pitch, leaving him curled up there in his hut.

People were praying to him. He was no god, and their hopes manifested as merely annoying itching. However, he did suddenly remember who he was and in just what proportions he was directly responsible for the fucked-up mess that was the beseiged soul communities.

+ The Hollow Pharaoh was an aggregate of many Pharaohs as stubbornly determined to rule in the other world as they had in the living world. Powered by the pyramids and rituals that Imhotep had built, they were well and true gods by the definitions of their era.

+ Imhotep created the 'demon arts' to aid humanity in destroying the Hollows. Unlike the soul cutters, which are rare and must be coaxed from within, this soul magic could be taught. Destroying Hollows released souls for rebirth, the process of which powers the afterlife itself.

+ The Pyramid, crafted upon souls upon souls, actually holds together a good section of the afterlife. Unfortunately, being a land ruled by Hollows, it was pretty much an eternity of Hell.

+ Hollows don't age. They won't fear ever suddenly keeling over and being reborn. They are truly, immortals. Until cut by an Akselor.

+ Alexander doesn't remember his mortal life. This is why he was so reluctant to accept that name or any fame associated with it. He does however, remember every moment of his three hundred years as a Hollow. There is no Horse and King. Oris Paulum is the mask the Hollow wears, not vice versa.

+ As the first ever Vaizard he was actually 'created' to find and kill Imhotep. Boy, did that backfire.

+ Navitaserii, for some reason, is a 'living' Dead Book. She knows the name of every being that is dead upon the afterlife. So far she's being used for scrying, but if ever the old priest gets around to making a homing spell she's going to mailbomb the crap out of anyone that ever annoyed her 'brother'.

+ Kushado is the most dangerous of Imhotep's guardians not merely because he has a shape-shifting soul cutter but that underneath all that, he's actually a velociraptor.


*oh, I kill me

Palver
08-18-2008, 12:29 PM
Death Note - Redivivus (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4182475/1/Redivivus)

The most important thing Ryuk learned watching Light Yagami was how to follow the rules to the letter and still break them.

Excellently written time-travel Death Note fanfic without slash (!!!) Features detective Kira and L's attempts to find his rival :-/ Pretty amusing.

Star Wars - Son of Suns Trilogy

Into the Storm (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4302076/1/Into_the_Storm)

Part One of the Son of Suns Trilogy. An Alternative Universe which spins off from the end of The Empire Strikes Back, featuring all the main characters. When Luke and his companions are caught over Bespin and taken to Coruscant, Palpatine begins to systematically take apart Luke's life to create his new Sith, turning Luke against his allies, his father and his beliefs with devastating effect.

In Shadows and Darkness (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4344112/1/In_Shadows_and_Darkness)

Part two of the Son of Suns Trilogy. Abandoned by the Alliance and claimed by the Emperor, Palpatine's new Sith is coming into his own. But as Luke Skywalker's former life is forced further from his grasp by the actions of friends and foes alike, he finds new agenda's turn old friendships into unaffordable liabilities

The Dawn and the Darkness - not posted yet

Part three of the Son of Suns trilogy.
A new Empire is emerging as a new Emperor takes center-stage, his contradictions dividing Alliance and Empire alike and pitching allies and enemies into a battle which will question every conviction and test every friendship - and in doing so, change the course of a galaxy

For me it is the best SW fic I've ever read, written by an author whose ability is rivaled by a few in fanfiction. Highly recommended!!

Janus
08-19-2008, 05:54 AM
*Smells burning feathers after reading the bleach idea.*

Wow, damn, okay. I don't have anything revolutionary to post, but I do have a good story. The key to this one is sticking with it, because it is a one-shot and the ending makes the slightly brain numbing parts worth it.

JLA
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3061070/1/Probationary_Member

Taure
08-19-2008, 06:49 AM
http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-14121/becuzitswrong+Life+s+Ending+Life+s+Beginning.htm

A fairly entertaining Buffy/Stargate crossover in which Buffy joins the USAF after highschool, with an alternate ending to season 3.

Janus
08-19-2008, 07:33 AM
*Finishes Ranma "The Bitter End"*

Uh, shit... I... think I really need to go read something ridiculously fluffy right now. ><;

But in all honesty people, go read this one. Darkfics aren't usually so... sad.

Andro
08-30-2008, 03:37 PM
This is probably the best Final Fantasy number 7 story that I have come across.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2707071/1/

The only problem is that without any prior warning, and after 100,000 words, every single fucking character suddenly turns gay. What a waste. :/

Taure
08-31-2008, 03:42 PM
That was pretty good. Even the slash was bearable.

It's not quite fair to say "without any warning" though. There were slash overtones throughout the story. It takes a certain writing style to write slash, and it's instantly identifiable.

Calis Clayr
09-01-2008, 09:25 PM
Here's the most interesting FF-crossover I've seen.


The Gunslinger (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3054771/1/The_Gunslinger)
Vincent Valentine: A hero of legend, sleeping through time. What happens when he wakes up in Spira to find a new terror destroying the land and a new group of heroes asking for his help? Final Fantasy VII x X crossover.


There's a small twist, as Braska is the one to wake Vincent, not Yuna and the others like you'd expect from the summary. The writing and plot are decent, at least at this point. I think it has a lot of potential.
The updates are rather slow, unfortunately.

Also, be warned: his HP/FFVII x-over is crap. Seriously. (Though I wonder if there's any HP/FF that isn't crap...)

Anya
09-03-2008, 02:50 AM
Buffy the Vampire Slayer

To Ride a Pale Horse by Athenewolfe and WeyrWolfen (http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-15088/athenewolfe+To+Ride+a+Pale+Horse+by+Athenewolfe+an d+WeyrWolfen.htm) They say it might be a crossover. Putting it on her because it's one of my favorite stories.
I see no man on a pale horse, yet Death rides for us all. It was the apocalypse no one saw coming. Now, longtime enemies must become allies, friends become foes, and death really is waiting around every corner...

Winter Light (http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-15912/Krisztina+Winter+Light.htm) best Buffy/Dresden files crossover I've read.
A few years after losing her memory in an accident, Chicago socialite Buffy Summers Thorne secured Harry Dresden’s help on a case. At the time, unbeknownst to Buffy, Harry fell for her. Now her husband’s murderer appears to have set his sights on her.


Tempus Frangit Series;
Another Side of the Sky (http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-14447/MoragMacPherson+Another+Side+of+the+Sky.htm) Buffy/Doctor Who crossover.
A portal between dimensions opens and yet another woman materializes inside the TARDIS. Late season three Tenth Doctor.

The Rod of Asclepius (http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-15162/MoragMacPherson+The+Rod+of+Asclepius.htm) sequal to Another Side of the Sky, Buffy/Stargate SG1/Doctor Who crossover.
Another storage closet, another dimension? Set during "Another Side of the Sky," Buffy and the Doctor slip into the Stargate universe and a whole new set of problems.

Time Flies (http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-16512/MoragMacPherson+Time+Flies.htm)
Drabbles taking place in the Tempus Frangit/Another Side of the Sky universe. Buffy/Ten

Better With Two (http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-14532/MoragMacPherson+Better+With+Two.htm)
Great muppety Odin, Buffy misses the Doctor. She decides the time has come to do something about it. Sequel to Another Side of the Sky. Buffy/Doctor
(http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-15912/Krisztina+Winter+Light.htm)

rhiannonfrater
09-04-2008, 09:39 PM
As the World Dies (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2552003/1/As_The_World_Dies), by Rhiannon Frater. It's a lengthy zombie apocalypse fic. A female lawyer and a battered house wife escape the city as chaos rises up around them. They struggle to survive in the new world. It's both a dark and uplifting story. The author has since taken it all down except for the first chapter. A revised version is due to be released as a novel in three days, on August 15.

Read the first chapter on ff.n and if you like it enough I might be inclined to send you the remaining 210 chapters. Lesbian themes FTW.

Thanks for the shout out. I'm glad that you liked the story. The published trilogy will be the story you loved, but it will be revised, edited, and fleshed out a bit more. When I started writing the story it was for fun. Later on, when I realized how many fans wanted the story published, I realized I needed to do a lot of work to make it novel worthy.

The first novel is done and is now for sale on Amazon.com if anyone is interested.

I have several fiction stories up here http://www.scribd.com/people/view/112721 (http://www.scribd.com/people/view/112721including) including a full length novella set in the same world that was the setting of As The World Dies.

My stories are not really fanfiction, but I didn't have many places to post the story at the time and opted for fanfiction.net. The zombies and world are my own take on the undead apocalypse.

I hope you enjoy my works!

P.S. I have vampires, robots, and zombie stories on my Scribed page.

Anya
09-05-2008, 12:42 AM
That looks really interesting. I'm gonna take a look and if I like it I'm gonna beg the parentals for the book. I love apocalyptic stories with zombies ect.
To Ride a Pale Horse by Athenewolfe and WeyrWolfen (http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-15088/athenewolfe+To+Ride+a+Pale+Horse+by+Athenewolfe+an d+WeyrWolfen.htm) is actually on the same wave length with hordes of undead zombies.

rhiannonfrater
09-05-2008, 03:37 AM
That looks really interesting. I'm gonna take a look and if I like it I'm gonna beg the parentals for the book. I love apocalyptic stories with zombies ect.
To Ride a Pale Horse by Athenewolfe and WeyrWolfen (http://www.tthfanfic.com/Story-15088/athenewolfe+To+Ride+a+Pale+Horse+by+Athenewolfe+an d+WeyrWolfen.htm) is actually on the same wave length with hordes of undead zombies.

I hope you like the book should you decide to get it. It was a real challenge to take it from the online version and prep it for publication. The original draft was very rough and reading over it made me flinch a lot. But now I'm enjoying the opportunity to go back and clean up the grammar, typos, misspellings, etc and flesh out the story with new scenes and greater character development.

Plus, I love the two leads and its just fun having them fight off the zombie hordes, bandits, and other nasty characters.

:D

Anya
09-05-2008, 04:43 AM
Looks really interesting. Haven't had time to read it yet. But when I do I'll give you a buzz.

Orm Embar
09-07-2008, 03:08 AM
I just thought I'd share one of the few really good Legend of Zelda stories out there. It's a post TP fic, and focuses heavily on how The Golden Power (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3544959/1/The_Golden_Power) changes its bearers. DBAinsw hasn't updated in nearly 4 months, though...

Andro
09-10-2008, 03:32 AM
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3944275/1/Master_Chief_Saves_Christmas

This has some inexplicable charm about it.

Chief menacingly walked towards it, when a strange green grunt leaped out and screamed. The Spartan simply blew the thing away with his new wrist-shotgun.

It is worth mentioning because the author has ingeniously unraveled the mystery of the universe in a single fell blow.

Santa Claus is a fucking Forerunner

The real Halo greats are

Je Mourrais: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3832639/1/
The End of a War: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2168082/1/
The Great Journey: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2154459/1/

Andro
09-11-2008, 07:02 PM
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2703722/1/Halo_3_Collapse

This one deeply impresses me. The author has a number of OCs, one that I would consider significant to the storyline, but each of them is relegated to their own place and don't overshadow the plot. The scenes are well-placed, and the author can write politics.

Chapter 11 was the most stunning chapter I ever read in fanfiction ever. http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2703722/11/Halo_3_Collapse

No joke. If only he wrote for Harry Potter. :(