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Avitus
09-15-2005, 04:47 PM
Title: Prodigy
Author: jmcgk6
Rating: T (PG-13)
Genre: Action/Adventure/Romance
Status: WIP
Summary: Some say Prodigies are born, others say they evolve in the proper enviroment. What if Harry Potter had such an Enviroment? PreHogwarts and Beyond!
Original is on author's yahoogroup: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jmcqk6_fic/files/OLD%20Prodigy/
REWRITE can be found at: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3349611/1/

Very good, even if the guy's profile is kind of random...


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SlytherinDamian
09-15-2005, 05:18 PM
Also, if you think my stories are the worse ever, let me that too.

This guy is in college and owns a company?? :shock:

Anonymous
09-15-2005, 08:34 PM
He never said it was a good company (I think this is it I am not quite sure.)

http://www.yggdrasilsolutions.com/products.php

RagefulLlama
09-15-2005, 08:54 PM
sigh me^^

SlytherinDamian
09-15-2005, 08:58 PM
I tried reading it, but the author mentioed Dumbles being like a mentor, blah blah blah. Then Hedwig magically finds Harry... yea, no thanks.

Dark Syaoran
09-16-2005, 02:50 AM
Thanks for the warning Slytherin, I cant be fucked wasting my time right now.

Lord Ravenclaw
10-17-2005, 04:58 PM
Its a decent story so far, give it a whirl.

Avitus
10-17-2005, 05:03 PM
i really do like this one... except for the M-Machine... its a horrible plot device in my opinion. the chapters are a shade too short for me (meaning they seem like quarter chapters), but i like how he surprised Dumbles in the latest chapter.. it made me giggle

Dark Syaoran
10-18-2005, 02:42 AM
Had a whirl and it isnt bad. I can get passed the Hedwig thing, it isnt too bad. The computer that he's made (M-Machine) is crappy though but I can over look it. Its something original and when you do things like that, its all trial and error.

Necrule Paen
10-18-2005, 03:20 AM
This story uses the cliche "Harry can do anything because he doesn't know he can't" but is probably the most believable out of them all because Harry literally knows nothing of other people's limitations so I am all for it.

Dumbledore is NOT Harry's mentor. From the way things are going Harry will be Dumbledore's mentor if there will be mentoring at all. I think what got you confused is that Harry is contacting Dumbledore to see about this 'destiny' business is about, but Dumbledore's help will be minor all things considered, Harry knows now that he is alot more progressive than the majority of.

Hedwig did not magically find Harry, the author has a decent backstory as to how Hedwig got to the house and frankly it is far more believable then all of the other cliches out there about Harry getting a snake or whatever.

There is alot of good and orginal ideas in this fic to ignore it out of hand. Remember that much that is said in this forum is criticism and while this is great guide to make a good fic it is horrible for promoting a fic because very little of the good parts of a fic is spoken of compared to the bad.

Dark Syaoran
10-18-2005, 09:00 AM
Like I said, didnt mind the Hedwig thing. It wasnt that had.

I dont even mind it if Dumbledore did mentor him. Some of those stories are alright, its just when its all lovey dovey crap and he learns shit all. Mine has implied Dumbledore mentor so yeah, dont mind it if its done right.

Your right that this is one of the best 'Harry can do anything because he doesnt know he cant' story. No one is around therefore he thinks he can just do it. Maybe thats why Merlin was so powerful? Had no one to teach him and he just did his thing, thinking that all magical people could do things like him because for the first half of his life he knew no other magical people or something... who knows. Meh.

SlytherinDamian
10-19-2005, 03:33 AM
This story uses the cliche "Harry can do anything because he doesn't know he can't" but is probably the most believable out of them all because Harry literally knows nothing of other people's limitations so I am all for it.

Dumbledore is NOT Harry's mentor. From the way things are going Harry will be Dumbledore's mentor if there will be mentoring at all. I think what got you confused is that Harry is contacting Dumbledore to see about this 'destiny' business is about, but Dumbledore's help will be minor all things considered, Harry knows now that he is alot more progressive than the majority of.

Hedwig did not magically find Harry, the author has a decent backstory as to how Hedwig got to the house and frankly it is far more believable then all of the other cliches out there about Harry getting a snake or whatever.

There is alot of good and orginal ideas in this fic to ignore it out of hand. Remember that much that is said in this forum is criticism and while this is great guide to make a good fic it is horrible for promoting a fic because very little of the good parts of a fic is spoken of compared to the bad.

I don't want him to get a snak, but I kinda hate Hedwig. So him getting Hedwig, regardless of if there is a believable or creative backstory (that I missed), isn't winning me over.

If you mean Dumbledore is more progressive than other witches and wizards, that also doesn't warm me up to it. I hate Dumbles, and I'm not fond of so called 'progressives' in any context I know of. The fact that they sound like Harry has any sort of relationship with the professor that isn't merely Dumbles being used and discarded when he is of no use takes yet more points off.

The not knowing the limits of magic thing... I think its a lame concept, but considering the inconsistancy of JKR concerning wandless magic and underage restriction, I can let that slid. I'll give it another chance, but I'm almost certain I'll still hate it.

ip82
11-14-2005, 09:33 AM
Good story. I like this smart Harry, instead of a little imbecile JKR is serving us. The whole theory of magic thing is good too.

That god-like lady of magic is a bit lame. I mean, it's like a standard sellotape when you need to connect bits of story and don't know how.
"Haaaary, to acomplish your destinyyy, you muuust fiiind the Amulet of Tolkien Ripoff!"
"Yes, my lady, I'll get right on it"

I'm also little afraid for the future of this story, since it seems like all bits about theory of magic and Harry being smart are over, and all that remains is Harry being a misfit and trying to figure out what to do with Hermione's holes.

Nevertheless, it's good for now.

Lord Osiris
11-15-2005, 01:04 AM
I'm kinda like undecided on this story, i dont want to read it but i've stuck with it!? Hate those stupid computer things he makes! for God sake WTF, can't stand how he just suddenly appears next to this mythical book that has been gone for thousands of years! What i like though is how he made Harry's first kill early on. Not liking how he has made Harry's thoughts revolve around the mudblood granger, it's truly upsetting! Anyway yeh im undecided on if i like it or hate it meh *shrugs*

Lutris
11-17-2005, 04:47 AM
this fic is amusing.
its funny how he is only 10-11 and hes suddenly coming up with this M-machine crap, and all the while, Lily wasnt like a IQ200+ genius woman, and neither was James. It's inconceivable that Harry would be that intelligent now isn't it? I mean, come on he's a bloody walking dictionary by age 7 goddammit! Like THAT's gonna happen! I could have maybe stomached it if he was hogwarts-level, well, maybe not 5-7 year level, but hey, that just means he has an accelerated education. Now in Prodigy, he's a fucking I-came-up-with-a-bloody-elements-chart-for-potions-and-invented-a-computer genius! What kind of kid has that kind of intelligence, eh!?
and you know what? THEN there's the effing HHr.
pfeh. :puke:

of course, his theories are wonderful. They actually make sense, unlike some other crazy idea of magical-level-sorcere-mage-high mage crap. The presentation of these was pure and utter bull tho.

Redeye
12-10-2005, 11:11 AM
I like this one smart harry is great.

But i would perfer more interation with other teachers about harry's theories instead of just snape dumbledore and sirius.
mainly i wont more interaction between harry and nicholas.

hopefully the author brings out more smart harry instead of harry trying to be friends with everyone. not to mention the hinting at harry befriending malfoy if he can get malfoy to stop listening to his father. or something along those lines on how his mother tried to raise him right blah blah blah.

jmcqk6
01-31-2006, 09:08 PM
Hello All,

I was surprised to see a discussion about my story going on here. I want to respond to just a few things about this that a few of you have seemed to miss.

If there is one theme that will be present throughout the whole story is that Harry does what he does to *solve problems.* Some of you have expressed distaste towards the M-Machine. Harry didn't make it simply because it would be cool (he has no concept of that) - he made it to solve the problem of the amount of data he was collecting.

Yes, this story is going to be H.Hr, mainly because the pairing works extremely well for this. There will hardly be any weasley presence, except for perhaps the twins.

Dumbledore is going to mentor some, but he is also going to be learning some too. This is going to be a true friendship of equals. If you don't like that, this story is not for you.

The Lady - don't make too many assumptions. She's not quite what she seems. Think of her as a natural nuetralizer. Her powers are very limited, though you haven't really seen how yet.

I dislike the word "Progressive" as well. To me that means "Socialism." I'm a hard core libertarian, and that is going to be reflected in this story.

As to chapter length, I'm writing as much as I can, but with starting a new company (that link is old), and working full time, my spare time is very limited. I try to go no more than two weeks without an update, even if it is a bit short.

Thanks again for all your comments. I appreciate your thoughts.

Josh

ip82
02-01-2006, 01:41 AM
Hey, glad you decided to drop by.

As for "Prodigy", I'm ok with both HHr (actually, I couldn't imagine any other pairing in this situation, especially if you make both of them remain ultra-bookworms) and M-Machine. Kid creating all these things isn't very realistical, but it doesn't really matter in a story about magic. As for that lady that's guiding him and saving his arse, I still don't like it, but I guess I can live with it.

My biggest problem with this story at the moment is slow update rate. Yes you always had short chapters, but I remember that back when I started reading this, you were updating each day. But I guess that's justifiable what with the new business starting and all...

Violent Seas
02-01-2006, 09:49 AM
Welcome to DLP!


:GDie1

Tinder
02-03-2006, 04:51 PM
I was quite enjoying this story up to a point - but eventually it just became too difficult to stomach because the author is clearly letting his politics influence the story and characters - politics that I personally find distasteful.

The kind of obsessive Ayn Rand-ish ultra-capitalist libertarian theories put into practice here actually don't work too badly in terms of the story, but every time I read them I can't help but think about what would happen in the real world if they were put into practice. Obviously I don't think 'what would happen to the world if Voldemort took over oh no I can't read this fic about Voldemort' - but with the rise of neo-conservatism and right-wing evenagelicals in the USA... well, this just cuts a little to close to the bone.

Hopefully jmcqk6 will go back to his Azkaban fic (which was enjoyable despite being cliched) or he will leave the politics out when he writes his next fic.

nonjon
02-03-2006, 05:06 PM
Hopefully jmcqk6 will go back to his Azkaban fic (which was enjoyable despite being cliched) or he will leave the politics out when he writes his next fic.

While I may not agree with the politics I'd rather a different voice in the fanfic, even if I disagree with it, than no influence at all.

I suppose if you're writing K/G-rated youngster friendly fics then imposing your political views into your product is a bit dirty and disgusting. (Unless you're VeggieTales in which case God is on your side, so it must be okay.) But in fanfic? I'd much rather see an author's personal feelings and biases reflected in the story than ask them to keep them out. If they want to write one from a subjective POV that's fine too, but I prefer a fic I disagree with saying something over a cliched fic that doesn't stand out from any others saying nothing new.

ip82
02-03-2006, 05:15 PM
I really have no idea what politics are you talking about. If it's about backward wizarding world who needs to modernize itself, than that's nothing new - many independant fics have this as Harry's goal for fighting Voldemort.

nonjon
02-03-2006, 06:32 PM
I'm not sure to be honest, but if I were to guess I think he was referring to the freedom of information with the goblins and the general idea that if someone else can take your idea and make it better, they should be allowed to go into competition with you and make more money than you.

No copyrights or ownership of knowledge essentially. We all exist and have equal say in concepts/ideas/practices.

Hopefully someone will correct me and point out to what he *was* referring to.

DGD
02-03-2006, 06:57 PM
Welcome to DLP!


:GDie1

. . . Wrong thread.

jmcqk6
02-09-2006, 01:03 AM
I was quite enjoying this story up to a point - but eventually it just became too difficult to stomach because the author is clearly letting his politics influence the story and characters - politics that I personally find distasteful.

The kind of obsessive Ayn Rand-ish ultra-capitalist libertarian theories put into practice here actually don't work too badly in terms of the story, but every time I read them I can't help but think about what would happen in the real world if they were put into practice. Obviously I don't think 'what would happen to the world if Voldemort took over oh no I can't read this fic about Voldemort' - but with the rise of neo-conservatism and right-wing evenagelicals in the USA... well, this just cuts a little to close to the bone.

Hopefully jmcqk6 will go back to his Azkaban fic (which was enjoyable despite being cliched) or he will leave the politics out when he writes his next fic.

I wondered when I would recieve my first criticism about the political side of things. I should say that I'm a reformed Randian who still hold Atlas Shrugged as his favorite book, but with the realization that the theory was outdated and hypicrytical. This story will be about reforming a backwards wizarding society, but not as much as it will be about defeating Voldemort.

The common theme: freedom. I find Rowling to be very hypocritical in her fight for freedom from Voldemort while ignoring the un-free portions of the society she has created. I guess it's realistic, though, because it's extremely similar to what is going on here in the States.

Harry will be working to create a free society. Without giving away too much of the plot, I will say this: Utopia will not be achieved in this story, so you can lay to rest any fears about that.

I realize you didn't accuse me of being a neoconservative, but having it mentioned in the same review will leave that impression on people's minds. I'm a Libertarian by party, but an individual in reality. My beliefs are my own, and I do not force them on anyone (except my fanfic characters, when it works.)

Thanks for your thoughts, and I do hope you will continue reading. It is your choice however :)

Josh

jbern
02-10-2006, 10:27 PM
Josh,
I am learning very quickly this lesson. Write the story the way you want to write it. You will be happier that way. I am really enjoying your story even though I don't usually go for the super powered fics. Just do it well and the rest will follow.

Jim

Giovanni
02-10-2006, 10:45 PM
Good to know that you like personal freedom's and don't mind putting them into your writing. Although personally I disagree with the pure capitalist market structure set up by Adam Smith in The Wealth of Nations because it lends itself to obscene abuses...

But I digressed a little bit there didn't I...

Oh and for the record, I really am annoyed with Americans because of their outright intolerance of almost anything Socialism related(this is coming from a "progressive"). But honestly, I am glad that you didn't make a Socialist! Harry. It just wouldn't work in the wizarding world, to radical of a change.

Also I will say that although I disagree with parts of your politics I hope you keep writing the fic the way you have been doing. Writing isn't any fun if you can't look at your finished product and say "I'm proud of that piece."

Black Man Walking
02-17-2006, 11:35 PM
this story im reading because theres excellent writing style but ff.net just really sucks these days there are almost no good stories and the good stories the writers disappear. and the bad stories their updating like crazy but let me stop ranting i llike this story because its one of the only moderately good stories out there.
theres my input :roll:

Israfel
02-17-2006, 11:57 PM
I don't know, I liked this story initially and I guess his amazing intelligence that some of the others have complained about can be summed up by the title "Prodigy" but I felt it got a little bogged down when he got to Hogwarts as up until that point he had been almost entirely consumed in his work to the exclusion of most of his emotions and while it's not entirely feasible for a grade school age child to live his entire childhood by himself I can live with that. What I didn't like though was that you had established his character as one type then when he went to Hogwarts he did almost a complete 180 and spent a few chapters stuck in his emotional quagmire. And while I understand that it can be explained that it was because he was suddenly around so many people after living in exclusion for his entire life but as opposed to actually accepting and dealing with all of these feelings I think that in real life he would have most likely just tried to ignore all these new outside stimuli and just bury himself further in his work to ignore these new emotions that he doesn't want to have to deal with. But I do like the H/Hr pairing as I seem to be one of the few supporters of that ship out here in fanland but oh well keep writing, listen to what I say, don't, whatever. It doesn't really matter in the end anyway.

fatal
02-19-2006, 12:30 PM
its better than some retarded Harry fics that I've read. I like it.

tridentwatch
04-14-2006, 12:15 AM
An 11 yr old kid becoming a prodigy, ok fine. But not an ultra smart one like you did. Maybe if the kid was a few years smarter than his age it would be fine but this kid here is so smart its turning into one of those super harry cliches.
Checklist:
No slash -- H/Hr
Decent novel length -- yup
Interesting ideas -- yea..
Original and exciting plot -- nope, not in this lifetime
cliches -- supersmart harry = super powerful harry not much difference

Rating out of 10: 8/10 mainly for effort.

Yarrgh!
04-17-2006, 05:25 PM
Original and exciting plot -- nope, not in this lifetime
Rating out of 10: 8/10 mainly for effort.

I really don't understand what the hell you're on about.

Not an original plot? Where, pray tell, have you seen genius!Harry before...and even if you have, i don't see how you can put this down when its an excellent fic.

The plot IS exciting...you have the savior of the wizarding world rearing himself. Not only did he write those parts well, but the psychological effect...the introvertedness...was also done very well.

And how do you rate it 8/10 purely on effort? I find that to be a rather odd way of rating things...even the crappiest fic out there would net a 4/10 by that scale solely because the author put in the effort to write it.

jmcqk6: well done. This story isn't exactly my cup of tea...i don't like genius!Harry, but you HAVE written it very well, and in a very believable manner.

LINKed up
04-17-2006, 05:46 PM
Hey, trident, why are you rating this story like that when yours isn't even half as good? Super smart does not equal super powerful. There is a huge difference between being really smart and really powerful, at least magic wise. This super smart Harry is completely different from those other super powerful Harry fics because this Harry actually took a lot of time to figure out how to do stuff. Also, this Harry still doesn't have the power that a super power Harry would. And how is the plot unoriginal? How many stories can you tell me right now that have Harry accidentally warping himself to his parents's house and then learning magic? How is that plot unoriginal? And how can you give something a good rating based on EFFORT alone? That just doesn't work, unless all stories that seem to have decent effort put into them deserve an 8/10. Okay, I'm done now.

Patrik f
04-22-2006, 05:41 PM
this fic is amusing.
its funny how he is only 10-11 and hes suddenly coming up with this M-machine crap, and all the while, Lily wasnt like a IQ200+ genius woman, and neither was James. It's inconceivable that Harry would be that intelligent now isn't it? I mean, come on he's a bloody walking dictionary by age 7 goddammit! Like THAT's gonna happen! I could have maybe stomached it if he was hogwarts-level, well, maybe not 5-7 year level, but hey, that just means he has an accelerated education. Now in Prodigy, he's a fucking I-came-up-with-a-bloody-elements-chart-for-potions-and-invented-a-computer genius! What kind of kid has that kind of intelligence, eh!?
and you know what? THEN there's the effing HHr.
pfeh. :puke:

of course, his theories are wonderful. They actually make sense, unlike some other crazy idea of magical-level-sorcere-mage-high mage crap. The presentation of these was pure and utter bull tho.

I agree with Lutris, while it in unbelivable that he is so smart at such a young age so do I love all the theories and even the computers.

thapagan
06-28-2006, 10:05 PM
ah, an update, yea!

:D bonus: prodigy harry quiddich omake

I have re read about half of the posts on this thread.
Has anyone seen a story were tom riddle is the bump in the road,
and the wizarding world (political/cultural) is the real problem?

Once harry puts his mind to beating Tom would be easy,
but not while he is being pecked to death by different factions
of wizarding england?

I think this could turn into a nice potboiler intrigue kind of thing
if the author wanted to steer it that way.

Xenon
06-29-2006, 01:48 AM
I think that the fact that you have to skip over the authors politics(if said opinions offend you) INSTEAD of mindless filler/Ginslut fluff/Clichés/Plot Holes etc. speaks volumes for the quality of writing in this fic.

Yes, I will admit it that this whole 'oh hello I'm Harry Potter! Nice to meet you, would you like a cup of tea? Oh and by the way, I've just now solidified the theory of quantum gravitation and found a cure for cancer (while juggling a 7 tuba’s).Pass the Scones would you?’ thing gets a little old.

But for God’s sake it’s Original! If taken a few chapters (or not) at a time it’s highly enjoyable. The only real complaint I have is the wait between updates but that’s just customary bitching. Keep it up Josh!

Myst
06-29-2006, 03:44 AM
Only thing that annoys with me with this story is his political views being put into the characters and the WAY to smart kid.


Other than that. It's fine. I suppose.

Olfrik
06-29-2006, 09:10 AM
I liked this story initially very much, but now I start to wonder what the plot will be, it seems to me that Harry has no real challenge anywhere but with his social skills.

He is still in the second term of his first year and allready the H/Hr starts, I like to see Harry work for what he achieves. It all seems to easy for him there. And how will he want to make politics if the author developed a main character that has social skills as his main/only weakness? Thats as if I wanted to study maths at uni if I get best marks everywhere and regularly fail in maths in secondary school. And every character needs weaknesses as much as strengths. The only weakness he would have left would be being whipped by Herman.

These objections aside it is very well written and the Hr character is luckily not the uber-boss type.

I look forward to see how you want to make Harry think like a politician. He will need more then sympathy on his side to make such big changes.

jmcqk6
06-29-2006, 08:12 PM
Let me start by saying thank-you to those who have spoken up about enjoying this fic.

Now just a few quick replies, mainly addressing things that will not be addressed in the story itself. I know people are probably not going to like this, but when you think about it, it makes sense. Harry is showing signs consistant with a development disorder called aspergers, which is a form of autism. I actually didn't even realize it until another reviewer pointed it out. However, Harry does fit the bill for being a type of Savant. It's different isn't it?

Also, if you look at historical child prodigies, you will notice that Harry pretty much fits the bill. The claim that he is smarter than he ought to be, may hold a little water, but I think you should familiarize yourself with RL prodigies and rethink your opinion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_child_prodigies

As to my politics, I suppose I could apologize for bringing them into the story, but I'm not really sorry. Your religious beliefs (if any), your philosophy, and your politics should all be reflected in how you live your life. This is a basic belief for me.

For the record: Harry Potter is making mistakes, you just have not seen them in the story yet. We are still building up to the action, and I'll tell you right now that it's going to be full of it when it hits - there will be a jihad of epic proportions. This is necessary.

Harry will never be a politician. He doesn't care about politics at all. To him, he would likely agree with Mal Reynolds who says that a government is just there to get in the way, which is absolutely true in his case.

I am confused as to why social difficulty is being portrayed as Harry's only weakness. Do I need to work harder in pointing out that his dueling skills absolutely suck? That being as smart as he is can be a burden as much as it is a gift because he ends up over-thinking things? Please let me know.

You all will probably hate this fic after this post, but that's ok, I guess. I'm writing this for myself, after all :)

jmcqk6
06-29-2006, 08:23 PM
Excerpts from the wikipedia list of Child Prodigies:

Akrit Jaswal India's youngest university student. He did an operation when he was 7.

Tathagat Avatar Tulsi - Undergraduate degree at age 10

Song Yoo-geun-Physics prodigy who entered university at age 8.

* Murray Gell-Mann - Nobel laureate who taught himself calculus at seven and went to Yale at 15.* - Harry did it at around 8

Steve Wozniak - Started developing complex electronics while still in grade 5. Went on to develop the worlds' first screen and keyboard desktop computer - Apple I.

William James Sidis - Corrected E. V. Huntington's mathematics text galleys at age of eight and entered Harvard at 11.

Srinivasa Ramanujan - Indian autodidact in mathematics, particularly number theory

By looking at some of these, Harry is actually a bit behind...

vanna
06-29-2006, 10:27 PM
Do I need to work harder in pointing out that his dueling skills absolutely suck? That being as smart as he is can be a burden as much as it is a gift because he ends up over-thinking things? Please let me know.


This became very clear in the most recent chapter, and was very believable. It was my favorite part of the chapter, too. I was getting a bit bored with genius!Harry :) Can't wait for some action...

f77
07-07-2006, 06:31 PM
I did not expect much when I started reading this. I thought it would be full of politics, and things that hold no interest to me. Well, I am wrong. Not only is this story the BEST smart/super Harry fic I have ever seen, but I just love how it is written. Keep it up, it definately has a place in my top tens.


I felt that computer bit was wierd though... Magical computers, what next magical toasters and spaceships. But aside from that, and Severus being a mentor/friend to Harry, this is a great fic.

Dark Lord Shabranigdo
07-12-2006, 11:44 PM
Actually, I think this by far the BEST technomancy story I've read. The others are absolute rubbish. While this one is slightly unrealistic with the whole age to genius ratio, it still does a better job than others.

The ones I really don't like is when he decides he's had enough, and proceeds to really apply himself. Where the hell did this potential come from?

Anyway, I hope it moves along, with more action. After all, brilliant invention start to get boring after about 50,000 words.

Vincent V
07-17-2006, 10:35 PM
Its alright. Never did get the technomagic shit, but hey.

Brooklynight
07-17-2006, 11:37 PM
I liked this fic when it first started out, smart!Harry was definetly appreciated adn well written. As this fic progressed the quality of the writting didn't go down but this fic started to get boring honestly. There seems to be a lack of conflict as there dosn't seem to be anything that the Harry can't find that answer to. No matter how smart it is he's still 11 and dosn't have any real life experiance and this dosn't seem to be reflected in the fic.

Technomancy can be well done but honestly I don't really like the way that its developed in this fic. Harry constructed a computer in a matter of months by himself, while it took some of the best minds of the muggle world years to develope the original technology.

Another thing that bugs me in this story is Sirius and Remus getting comming into play so soon, I don't see the point of them coming into play so early into the story. Also Harry accepts them very readily, the kid really hasn't had any human contact until he was 11 so I was expecting him to have more difficulty accepting two people into his life that he has never met before.

Harry and Hermione seem well written, the two book worm personalities seem to match up nicely. If that author dose it well it could turn into a nice romance in a few years.

Overall I enjoyed reading this fic but it smells like one of the dime a dozen Harry/Ginslut fics DLP loves just that Hermione replaces Ginny and Intelligence takes the place of the magical inheritance.

Mordac
08-29-2006, 03:05 PM
I must say that when I first started reading this fic I liked it.
Then I came to the sorting scene, and the independent study turned me off quite a bit--but after a while I was able to cope with it and continue reading it.
The only main qualms I have are the Magical Woman and the Sorting. THe politics are actually an added bonus to me, since I too am a hardcore libertarian.

Hadoren
09-03-2006, 03:15 AM
I liked this fic when it first started out, smart!Harry was definetly appreciated adn well written. As this fic progressed the quality of the writing didn't go down but this fic started to get boring honestly. There seems to be a lack of conflict as there dosn't seem to be anything that the Harry can't find that answer to.

I agree completely. Stories without an enemy to fight are boring. Of course there's Voldemort, but he seems unimportant.

Tarnum
10-18-2006, 06:15 PM
Nice plot, but the author is a incredibly naïvè. I think he should rewrite the story... after he grows up.

jmcqk6
11-22-2006, 01:49 PM
I wanted to post some replies and a few explanations to this board, as the author to this story.

I'm coming back from about a six month break from writing, and have picked this story back up. I realize that the last few chapters have gotten bogged down with unnecessary details, and that will be corrected in the next chapter.

I've been speaking about the future of this fic with a few other authors out there, and we are all quite excited about where this fic is headed. There are several ideas I've not seen in any fanfic anywhere, so if you stick with it, I promise you'll something you've never seen before.

To those worried about this fic diving into the depths of horrible "Harry/Ginslut", I could very easily ease your worries on this, but I don't know the policy here on giving out spoilers. I will say that the original outline called for Hermione's death, though that has been altered a bit. So all I can really say is 'don't worry about it.'

To the person who commented that I needed to 'grow up,' I'm not really sure what to say, other than check your goddamn premises.

Finally, if you are religious in any way, you should probably cease reading this story. At least if you cannot stomach religious cricticism and mockery, quit now - don't read the next chapter.

Or go ahead, it doesn't matter to me.

Have fun. See you around!

The Dark Lord Squash
11-22-2006, 03:47 PM
It is nice to see a Author defend their story.

Personal I never could get into this story just because I have never liked the idea of tech magic. I guess some people like that kind of thing but I have feel that whole point of magic is to not use technology that much. Some can do it well, but when it is a main point of the story I just can’t stomach it.

DreamRed
11-26-2006, 01:25 PM
I enjoyed this story a lot, especially your ideas for technomancy. I did, however, find it a bit strange how easily Harry managed to create things like the M-Machine with such ease. I understand he struggled quite a bit with it, but like Brooklynight said, it seemed just a little too simple for him to do what Muggles had struggled for years to do.

Burn
11-26-2006, 02:25 PM
Really, the story itself has some great ideas. The presentation just seems somewhat rushed, and Harry seems to be a little too friendly for a person who pretty much grew up on their own. Then again, it may the naive nature of youth that makes him so open to other people (I can't do the accents on my keyboard, never learned how).

That said, the story presented excellent ideas that I would love to see used in a longer story. I always found Technomancy to be interesting, like a new frontier of magic that can be used to expand the wizarding world's concept of magic. But technomancy as in magical computers, not uber spell guns that can fire a hundered AK's a second through some alien crystal found at the site of a meteor crash. Or a sword made of invincible material that Harry gets but never uses and only carries around for image.

Overall, a 3.5/5

Lunarian
11-27-2006, 01:41 AM
The technomancy and genius aspects never mattered much to me when reading this. The thing I like most is Harry's total absentminded approach to everything and how he just detatches himself from the common reality when working on his projects. That is a rare mindset to find Harry in for stories.

jmcqk6
12-06-2006, 10:11 PM
I've edited this a couple times now, changing what I've said. Basically, I'm going to rewrite this fic and get rid of all the shit in it. I've had to go back and reread since I took a long long break and damn, was there alot of shit. It was painful to read. I can't live with that, so I'm going to go back and do it right.

Basically, no hermione, no hedwig, cut down on the filler, rework magical theories, redo Lady of Magic idea to fill out my current ideas (they've never been done in fanfic that I know of, even though it might seem like it on the surface), and the like.

Sorry for the number of edits here.


I would greatly appreciatte it if someone from DLP would want to Beta the rewrite, and act as a sounding board for some of the ideas I have. iF you're interested, please mail me: josh.charles@gmail.com

deathtehfluffybunny
12-06-2006, 11:52 PM
I enjoy this story and I am glad to see that instead of giving up when you don't enjoy your own story, you change it so that you do. The intelligence is understandable if Harry is a certifiable prodigy and I found some of the theories you created for magic plausible and realistic, without completely keeping you from expanding on them. I do think it slowed somewhat upon reaching Hogwarts though and hope that is some of the filler you plan to edit out.

jmcqk6
12-07-2006, 12:57 AM
Thanks. I'm going to go back and really clean it up. I've alread got the first chapter almost halfway redone. It's going to clear up a lot of problems. There were issues with whether or not Dumbledore knew the Potters had switched Secret Keepers, and how the Fidelius got back into place. And the problem of Fudge being Minister. Harry was too accepting of his new situation, and this time it will be more difficult for him. The first time around it was too easy, and that made sense to me at the time.

This time, it needs to be better, and while I know it's a lot of work ahead of me, it'll be worth it to have a story I can be proud of. I'm not really proud of it in it's current form. I'm proud of it's ideas, but the implementation is emberessing to say the least, especially because I know I can do better.

The story really fell apart at Hogwarts; I can see that now. I think I've learned from those mistake, though, and can avoid them this time around.

So if you don't like this story now, please give it a second chance when I begin reposting the new version. I can see how some of the criticism was right on, and I hope this next version will be leaps and bounds better.

dragonyoko
12-07-2006, 01:11 AM
Not a bad story, a few sticking points where it quirked me but not many. Didn't care for the age of when Harry built his computer. I can admit that i had a computer when i was that age, and i was lucky if i figured out how to get to the games. Other than that, i look forward to the rewrite.

Mordac
12-11-2006, 04:21 PM
Since I get the change to provide dynamic feedback for a re-write, I ask you this--scrap the independent study thing. It was awkward, and almost threw me off of wanting to read the story. And, if I may speak frankly, the conversation with "Miss Hat" was kinda silly. I really enjoyed the rest of the story though, and I hope all goes well with the rewrite and that it comes out even better!

The_Banisher
12-16-2006, 05:09 PM
The story so far has been quite good. The bit with the hat was a little akward but the independent study I can understand. Excellent work with Harry's ... aptitude ... for dueling.

jmcqk6
01-20-2007, 03:35 PM
The first chapter of the rewrite was posted yesterday:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3349611/1/

Some important differences that you might find so far, if you remember the beginning of the original is that there is no Prometheus, the Lady of Magic did not make an appearance, the Fidelius still being up is explained.

If you look at the summary, you'll see it now says "No Pairings" so those of you who didn't like the story becuase of the HHr might be pleased by that. Hermione will not be in this story long, and won't even make it through her first year at Hogwarts. Not that she dies. What should have happened after Hermione faced a troll and other dangers will happen. That said, she will make an appearance in the sequel to this story.

Harry will not be 'sorted' as an independent study, so that might please some of you.

I'm very pleased with how the rewrite is progressing. I'm toning down most everything to make it more credible, and not trying to rush through things. Toning down might be the wrong phrase, because I have many very unique things planned for this story. So don't equate that with 'not exciting.'

deathinapinkboa
01-20-2007, 07:26 PM
I enjoyed it the first time round--though I didn't like the M-Machine.

I'm happy to say that this rewrite looks even more promising.

I do hope he keeps the indepent study; having Harry go to classes, despite being bloody brilliant, has always urked me.

jmcqk6
01-20-2007, 11:58 PM
Well, i never said he'd be going to classes... Well, he'll be going... sometimes... The circumstances of his time at hogwarts is going to be very different, though, than the independent study of the first time around

nezza88
01-21-2007, 12:30 PM
dude have you tried dumbledores army by bodmin? thats another harry can do anything type story and its a lot better explained than this one is, my only bad point about it is a redeemed snape but the authors explains why they did it too. it may already have been posted on here but i dont have a lot of time right now to be certain any way check it out its a good read.

jmcqk6
01-21-2007, 05:24 PM
Wow, I'm surprised that you are able to pass such a judgement after only one chapter.

Dumbledore's Army was a crappy story. Let's send Harry a letter from his parrents telling him that he's in love with Ginny. Let's let Harry become a phoenix animagus without any explanation. Let's give Harry a bunch of powers and figure out how to defeat Voldy from a dream. Let's fill up the story with a bunch of pointless and shitty pranking. You have to respect bobmin's ability to crank out super long fics and stick with them to the end, but I can't go much beyond that. I simply can't stand it.

Xantam
01-21-2007, 06:14 PM
nezza88, have you ever heard of a spelling and grammar check? jmcgk6's story may have gotten a little screwy, but that's what the rewrite is for.

Also what's with your name? Are you an incredibly bad Shezza knock-off?

Darius
01-21-2007, 06:25 PM
Yeah, there is really no comparison. Prodigy > Anything by Bobmin.

jts360
12-08-2007, 06:51 PM
Seems im100HPGWandRWHG is writing/posting another rewrite of this, though given the old versions of no longer on fanfiction I am unsure just how much what is up currently differs if it does yet at all.

Warlocke
12-08-2007, 11:02 PM
Seems im100HPGWandRWHG is writing/posting another rewrite of thisWell, if it's being written by someone who is 100% for HP/GW and RW/HG (so much so that they make it their name) then it has to be good. :puke:

Edit: Actually, taking a closer look at this person's profile, they really are that rabidly pro-Harry/Ginny.

In fact, they're pretty much rabidly against anything but the canon pairings. Or, to be more accurate, anything but what was in the books. Makes me wonder why they bother writing, or even so much as reading fanfiction. They do, however, seem to enjoy licking JKR's ass.

Prodigy was originally H/Hr but obviously this 'author' is changing that. Sigh... I'm signing off before I start flinging around terms like 'douchebag' and 'mindless JKR apologist'.

Aerin
12-30-2007, 08:15 AM
*Snickers*

Whilst I don't enjoy HP/ GW stories, it is easy to appreciate a good plot and storyline.

This story has that in spades.

Aerin

jmcqk6
01-31-2008, 09:13 PM
ugh, finished skimming the new version. Can't say I like someone corrupting my ideas like that, but I stand by what I said... Anyone can do anything with my stories that they want to.

I told the author I planned on offing hermione in my original outline and he/she should do the same with ginny in this one.

I've got a new story completed that is scores better than prodigy ever was. I'm going through the revisioning process, because I want to make sure it's the best it can be, but hope to post it soon.

Duke of Rothwood
02-01-2008, 12:12 AM
Nice, will you give any hints as to what the new story is about?

Blaise
02-01-2008, 12:52 AM
Just read the new version; fine ideas, i guess, but what really detracts from it is the lack of beta. I doubt I'll read anymore of it.

Schwing
03-02-2008, 11:20 PM
anyone know why neither links seem to exist anymore?

Lokesin
03-06-2008, 07:48 AM
Well, while after going over this topic again, I'm fairly certain both stories were removed from FF.net. On another subject, you should make an introduction thread, over in the Introduction sub-forum, and try to avoid necro-posting like this, as it typically makes some people rather irritated.

Perhaps this question should go in the Forgotten Fics thread, as well as the question of where Jmcqk6's new story is and what it's title is?

yak
03-06-2008, 08:53 AM
anyone know why neither links seem to exist anymore?

It looks like the author has removed them from ff.net, deleted his yahoo group, and even his one Portkey fic I googled.

"Prodigy in on the shelf, and I don't imagine that I'll ever pick it up again. I hear others have done so." - http://www.fanfiction.net/u/595124/

On another subject, you should make an introduction thread, over in the Introduction sub-forum

Don't try to censure noobs, noob. Intro threads aren't required.

and try to avoid necro-posting like this, as it typically makes some people rather irritated.

Library threads are immune to necro. This thread started in 2005. It's been regularly necroed over the last three years. Schwing brought to our attention that the fic seems to have disappeared.

where Jmcqk6's new story is and what it's title is?

Your question fails for two reasons.

1. Jmcqk6 posted his new story Introduction, Theme and Variations (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4102847/1/Introduction_Theme_and_Variations) on his ff.net page (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/595124/). The same page he's been using since 2004.

2. If for some reason you didn't think to look on ff.net, then his username is obviously unique enough to drop straight into google. You don't even have to add any modifiers.

http://www.google.com/search?q=jmcqk6

From there you can find his ff.net account, blog (http://www.joshuamcharles.com/blog/), etc. The guy is prolific, he gets over 2000 results from google. There are no excuses for google failure, Lokesin.

From ff.net: Introduction, Theme, and Variations - Voldemort's greatest deception is revealed during the final battle, and Harry Potter loses, only to disappear the next day. While the world goes crazy, the name Harry Potter turns into a curse. AU, TimeTravel, Harry/Fleur

On his author page he says: Introduction and Variations - This story gives me the opportunity to explore many of the things I wanted to with Prodigy, but in a more 'believable' setting, and one I'm much more comfortable with. I will be using several of the ideas I had for Prodigy in this story, technology wise. Of course, the main idea of Seven Voldemorts was ripped right from my Prodigy outline. It struck me as such a good idea, I couldn't pass it up.

Why is this story called 'Introduction and Variations?' The first two chapters set the Prelude and Introduction. After that, time travel occurs. In this story, they'll go back to one of the seven years of Hogwarts.

I'm planning on writing several companion stories starting at that point (timetravel) that are a variation on this theme, set in different years. We'll see what happens.

Yak
there are no excuses for google failure

Lokesin
03-12-2008, 01:28 PM
You know, I see other folks get blasted for necro'ing and not posting in the introduction thread all the time, and so I thought "Gee, maybe I should try to be friendly and point him in the right direction."

As for the google question, I guess I made a mistake there. No need to make a multi-paragraph post about it, when you could just recommend:

"Hey, try google more often, he showed up easily with his story on there."

I tried searching for jcmqk6 on FFN's search feature, but I didn't get anything, maybe that's just unreliable. I had assumed that meant he had a different FFN screenname.

Whatever, this is the last time I try to be helpful if this is how folks are going to react.

Edit: Huh, figured out why I didn't find him on FF.N, I had the c and the m backwards. Explains a few things. Leaving the typo as is.

yak
03-12-2008, 02:09 PM
You know, I see other folks get blasted for necro'ing and not posting in the introduction thread all the time, and so I thought "Gee, maybe I should try to be friendly and point him in the right direction."

Eh, my bad. I thought you were attacking him.

As long as you're adding something noteworthy to a Library thread, necroing is a-okay. Encouraged, even. In other places, necro at your own risk.

Noteworthy, like these posts aren't.

Yak.

bornagainpenguin
03-13-2008, 02:28 PM
Copy of chapters 1-31 of the original and only one chapter of the original author's re-write in the DLP.net archives.

--bornagainpenguin

mfoolen
03-17-2008, 02:06 PM
yes well very nice and all but i can still find the story in the dpl archieve.
who could help me.

Andro
03-17-2008, 09:07 PM
yes well very nice and all but i can still find the story in the dpl archieve.


Then there's no problem.

mfoolen
03-18-2008, 06:00 PM
sorry i still can't find the dammed storry.
who can download this and sent it to me?
please let me know.

or an other way to get the story.

yak
03-27-2008, 07:39 AM
You've already been told how to get it. Prodigy is in the DLP.net Archive. Search for it. I downloaded the archive a few weeks ago, it's a little under 100MB. Prodigy is stored in the same place in the archive as it is here on the DLP forums.

\Independent Harry\Prodigy (original) - jmcqk6
\Independent Harry\Prodigy (rewrite) - jmcqk6

I'm not going to send it to you. You can get it yourself.

Yak.

mfoolen
03-27-2008, 09:12 PM
Copy of chapters 1-31 of the original and only one chapter of the original author's re-write in the DLP.net archives.

--bornagainpenguin



how can i go the the archives?
can someone please discribe it for me because it can't find it.
the only thing i can find is the follow link on google.

http://forums.darklordpotter.net/archive/index.php/t-311.html

and there i only see the dialoge.

cam someone please help me.
by sending a link or detailed instructions.
my englisch isn't that great so please be detailed.

Andro
03-27-2008, 09:16 PM
If your English is as bad as it appears, then you won't be able to enjoy the stories in the Archive anyway. Take that as a consolation.

Korisovra
03-27-2008, 09:20 PM
Dude....Just when I think people on the intraweb can't get any stupider, someone like mfoolen comes along......

And this story gets a 2/5 from me.

yak
03-28-2008, 05:59 AM
how can i go the the archives?
can someone please discribe it for me because it can't find it.
the only thing i can find is the follow link on google.

http://forums.darklordpotter.net/archive/index.php/t-311.html

and there i only see the dialoge.

cam someone please help me.
by sending a link or detailed instructions.
my englisch isn't that great so please be detailed.
Alright. I give in. I'm only helping you again because you made the effort to use Google, even though you're doing it wrong.

Look at the top of this page (Dark Lord Potter). You'll see a row of links: User CP, Donate, Rules, etc. Click Search. Type in dlp.net archive. Go!

Somewhere about ten results down the list is: Sticky: RESSURECTION! DLP.Net Archives 03-15-08 Version...

Click that link.

The very first post in the thread contains half-a-dozen links to current copies of the archive. You only need to follow one of these links - they're all identical archives.

The archive is compressed in a .rar format. You'll need to download WinRAR (free trial), or 7zip (completely free) to open the archive. You can find them easily with google.

Yak.
/Yak caves

Dark Belra
03-28-2008, 06:55 AM
Or, you could go to the general section and look at the stickys. Just saying.

yak
03-28-2008, 07:05 AM
Yeah, obviously. ¬_¬

I was demonstrating an efficient, learn once; use anywhere, technique. If I was a DLP noob who hadn't read through every sticky in ever forum on the site, then basic search skills is what I'd turn to.

I was schooling the mofo. :)

Yak.

mfoolen
03-29-2008, 09:05 PM
Yeah, obviously. ¬_¬

I was demonstrating an efficient, learn once; use anywhere, technique. If I was a DLP noob who hadn't read through every sticky in ever forum on the site, then basic search skills is what I'd turn to.

I was schooling the mofo. :)

Yak.

quit nice to know that.
i am downloading the file at the moment.
this makes it realy easer to find it.

Korisovra
03-29-2008, 11:36 PM
*starts slamming his head into the desk* Learn capitalization, goddamnit!