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Spanks
07-06-2007, 04:12 AM
I have seen this kind of thread for Harry Potter, so how about one for Naruto. Luckily, the world that Kishimotto created is very expansive and any author can do almost anything in the Narutoverse. Unfortunately, the authors in the Naruto fandom are content with using the same old plot lines, and old boring plot points. So, please, come up with some stuff that would be original in the Naruto fandom.

Here is mine...

1) In the Wave Arc, Kakashi explains that a Hunter-nin disposes of a missing-nin because the enemy can learn secrets from their village from the corpse; jutsu, kekkei genkai, etc. I don't think I have EVER seen a fic where Naruto does that to someone he kills. I want to see Naruto dissect his opponent and learn his secrets.

2) Jiraiya becomes Hokage. No one ever seems to have him become Hokage, it is always Tsunade.

3) Danzou is chosen as the Third and not Sarutobi. Knonoha becomes a dictatorship, they want war more than peace. Would be an interesting environment for Naruto to grow up in.

4) Orochimaru is chosen as the 4th instead of the original Yondaime. (I refuse to call him Kazama Arashi until it is specified in the manga.)

Jon
07-06-2007, 04:33 AM
:| -points to A.D.D-

I've seen all of those done except number 3, which is only because he's a relatively new character,

5. Naruto backhands Sasuke the moment Sasuke starts to annoy him.

Darius
07-06-2007, 05:21 AM
Don't be pimpin' that shit in here Jon ;)

Jon
07-06-2007, 05:24 AM
Don't make me pimpslap you Darius :D

Robo Jesus
07-06-2007, 04:20 PM
6. Nosebleeds do not exist due to sexy images.
6a. Nosebleeds cannot knock out anyone due to 'bloodloss' unless they have the medical condition Haemophilia A (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemophilia_A) (a condition that routinely affects males).
7. Ninjas are shown to kill innocents, even the smallest of children, so as not to leave witnesses.
8. The 'good' guys as well as the bad use civilians as bait.
9. The civilians don't survive.

Verse of Darkness
07-06-2007, 04:23 PM
11. Hunter-Nin wtfpwning Genin who get all emo and decided to leave the Country.
12. A full detailed Shinobi War.
13. Someone whose skilled at battle scenes show a Kage vs. Akatsuki or Kage vs. Kage fight.

Spanks
07-06-2007, 04:51 PM
14) Naruto's mom is part of Akatsuki

Robo Jesus
07-06-2007, 06:50 PM
Since you guys missed a number here.:p

#10. The Fourth Hokage wasn't some reluctant hero, but a manipulative bastard who had planned on making Naruto a jinchuuriki all along like the Fourth Kazekage did to Gaara, only the Yondaime Hokage's plans on capturing the Kyuubi backfired with the Kyuubi coming to Konoha looking for blood over the leafs failed (first) attempt at capturing him.

SmileOfTheKill
07-06-2007, 11:04 PM
15) Kyuubi being evil, not like Naruto, and not a girl.

Spanks
07-07-2007, 12:51 AM
I really like the idea Robo Jesus came up with for the Yondaime Hokage.

Even though I hate the Naru/Hina pairing just as much as I hate Harry/Ginny...

16) The roles of Hinata and Naruto are reversed. With the emotional strain of being rejected by his village, Naruto grows up timid, shy, and has a crush on Hinata. While Hinata is loud, arrogant, semi strong, and doesn't even know he exists. She is out spoken against her clans traditions etc etc.

17) Naruto time travels to an AU like Harry does in an alternate dimension fic. Maybe he goes to one where Yondaime lived and he died during the sealing process.

18/ Naruto signs a contract with slugs or monkeys.

19) Naruto has a single Byakugan eye like Kakashi has a single Sharingan eye.

Robo Jesus
07-07-2007, 03:34 AM
#20. The entire world as it is in the Naruto-verse was shaped by a bunch of demons playing the role of 'gods' for their own benefits. The entire social system, the history, everything. The 'gods' knocked down civilization, built it back up how they wanted, and then, made deals with various peoples, creating the elemental nations and the histories within those nations (the First's Hokage's necklace being a token of the gods to the First as a sign of his right to 'rule' the shinobi villiage within the Fire Nation as an example). Now that things have gone as the 'gods' want them, they now want a united nation, a united people, for their ultimate goals. Too bad the 'gods' choose the wrong young man to carry out their goals. A Conquerer!Naruto type fic.:p

A good type of fic if you want lots of political action and Machiavellian type scheming. Lots of major battles, with actual emphasis on the more important things going on behind the scenes as well. This type of storyline would also give some explanations for the technological descrepincies in the Naruto-verse, with an easy way to introduce very powerful technologies unto the scene due to the 'knowledge' of the 'gods'.


#21. Long ago, the most powerful demon of all had progeny. Lillith gave birth to Humanity. At a young age, Naruto finds out about the Kyuubi, and seeks him out (as he has no one else). In time, Naruto gets the Kyuubi to tell him about the greatest of the great demons (with lots of ego-feeding by the Kyuubi on his role in things). What happens when the Kyuubi ends up telling a very young Naruto about the Bound Demon Lillith? What happens when Naruto decides to seek her out so that she can help make him into the greatest and strongest person ever so that the villagers would respect and worship him? What happens when he gets exactly what he wants after finding her?

Basically, this fic is just a way to fuck with things. Unfortunately, I know that most writers who would pick up this plotbunny would turn it into a mary sue type fic, which this isn't mean to be. It's meant to be dark, with a young Naruto constantly wandering for at least two or three years into the west in search of where the demon Lillith has been bound. Lillith, too weak to actually escape or leave, either takes possession of Naruto's mind, or takes Naruto into herself (innuendo galore with that wording:p) and starts to alter him so that Naruto can fulfill her goals in her stead.

Devin Cybrus
07-20-2007, 07:00 PM
How about Naruto actually acting like he's portrayed in the series; a hyperactive, annoying, attention-starved kid who isn't that bright.

Naruto's personality always seems to do a complete 180 from this in fics.

LT2000
07-20-2007, 07:05 PM
One reason would be that few people want to read about a hyperactive, annoying dipshit. If we wanted that, we would just read the manga or watch the anime, DATTEBAYO. Fanfiction is largely about wish fulfillment. Most readers want Naruto to be stronger and smarter than he is in the actual series.

Solomon
07-20-2007, 07:10 PM
I have to agree with LT2000, here. When I read fan fiction, I don't read it to see Naruto like he is in canon, because canon's Naruto pisses me off. I read it to see a badass that isn't afraid to kill, one that actually learns something worthwhile other than Kage Bunshin and Rasengan, or uses the former's knowledge retention to its greatest.

Then again, I also read fan fiction to see Naruto paired off with either one of the sound girls or a female Haku (as Haku should have been female in the first place).

Quick note: I have seen Naruto sign the Monkey contract, and one where Naruto has a single Byakugan eye. I don't remember the names of either fic, though.

Oujou Akaash
07-20-2007, 07:43 PM
One reason would be that few people want to read about a hyperactive, annoying dipshit. If we wanted that, we would just read the manga or watch the anime, DATTEBAYO. Fanfiction is largely about wish fulfillment. Most readers want Naruto to be stronger and smarter than he is in the actual series.

I am sorely disappointed in you, mate. You guys underestimate naruto way too much. Okay, so he is a hyper active, drivin character but out of the whole damn manga/anime series he only lost one battle. ONE BATTLE and that was against sasuke and even then it was close because naruto didn't want to kill someone who he considers precious. You of all people know that naruto is a quick thinker , driven, motivated and number one most unpredictable ninja when he is battling.

Just look at Soul of Fire fic. A crossover with warcraft and naruto. The author made naruto character fully canon version and that is one of the reasons why i like his fics. A character of naruto's nature is fun to write and read coming. But meh i like the canon version the best and thats my opinion and you have yours.

Though i do understand where Demon and LT2000 are going with this and i completely understand. Still...it kinda pisses me off that calling naruto weak and an idiot because you guys are acting just like the rookie nine.

I have to agree with LT2000, here. When I read fan fiction, I don't read it to see Naruto like he is in canon, because canon's Naruto pisses me off. I read it to see a badass that isn't afraid to kill.

....Why in the hell do you even read naruto manga in the first place? And when you say afraid to kill...what do you mean. He isn't afraid to kill because from what i see, naruto used rasangan on itachi look alike completely killing him. He didn't even bat an eyelash. The only thing i saw was anger.

Solomon
07-20-2007, 07:55 PM
Oh no, of the many things I will call Naruto, I will not call him weak. Even without the Kyuubi, Naruto is a very strong character, and I admit, he is quick on his feet.

I never said that Canon Naruto wasn't afraid to kill, I was just stating some of the things that I look for in a fic, and the ability to kill without much remorse is definitely one of them.

Also, to be quite honest? I've been growing less and less interested with Canon, ever since the timeskip happened. Kishimoto needs to get his ass in gear, because soon, I will start to ignore Canon Naruto, at least at this rate. Nothing stopping me from reading Fanon thus far, though.

Robo Jesus
07-20-2007, 08:39 PM
I'm not calling Naruto weak either. I just want to see his character develop in many different ways under many different situations. That is what I want. I don't want to read fanfics that are nothing more than rehashes of the manga. I WANT ORIGINAL STORIES. With original situations, original backgrounds, and original character developments. A Naruto who grew up in a warlike situation would have a slightly different character than a Naruto who grew up in the Manga.

Most of the time, both would easily be identified as Naruto, but neither would be the same person as the other.

Oujou Akaash
07-20-2007, 09:03 PM
True enough and yea i suppose i understand where you guys are going with this. Still...

LT2000
07-20-2007, 10:49 PM
Yes, he has only technically lost one battle, but in virtually every fight he gets in, Naruto is in the position of the complete underdog, getting his ass kicked until the 'I NEVER GIVE UP, I'M GOING TO BE HOKAGE DATTEBAYO!" moment where he pulls something or other out of his ass to win. Sometimes I, and other people, want to see something different from that, see a more dominant hero for a change. Put the shoe on the other foot once in a while. And besides, he's supposed to be a ninja. A child killer, an assassin. Kishimoto's version of shinobi is vastly different from mine. I don't believe that a hyperactive kid who screams and yells and goes around wearing bright orange clothes meshes well with my concept of what a ninja should be. I'm a little more into realism than that.

Solomon
07-20-2007, 11:09 PM
I'm going to have to agree with you yet again, LT2000, on both counts. When I see an anime, I want to see the main character fighting on equal grounds, without some sort of Deus Ex Machina effect kicking in to give him the win. I want him to win on his own skills, not some power that was stuck in his belly as an infant. I want to see Naruto defeat his opponents with superior speed, superior technique, not with the Kyuubi's chakra. Hell, the only time I was actually happy seeing the Kyuubi's chakra come out to "help" Naruto was against Sasuke, and that was because it granted him extra abilities alongside the extra chakra.

Regarding my thoughts of Ninja...When I think of a ninja, the last thing I think of is Naruto. Rather, I see someone covered in black clothing, hiding in the trees, freaking people out and killing them quietly, with sneak attacks and assassinations during the target's sleep.

Naruto is literally the exact opposite of that, and it gets on my nerves a bit. I wouldn't care quite as much if they were simply Mercenaries, as opposed to Ninja. They do everything that Mercenaries do, anyways, except with generally different methods.

Spanks
07-20-2007, 11:09 PM
I mentioned this over at A.D.D. One thing that bothers me about canon Naruto is that he just doesn't seem ready to be promoted. You can argue that Naruto has enough skill and ability to battle most Jounin, but that isn't what makes a ninja. What makes a Chuunin is that they can lead a squad into battle and not get them killed.

How can Naruto ever lead a squad when lets his emotions get out of control? When he screams and charges first as Itachi so nicely put it. How many times has Kakashi had to stop Naruto from charging his enemy? You can say that having Gaara killed messed him up emotionally, but he should have known better.

Unfortunetly in Naruto world that kind of behavior warrants the comment "You have surpassed me" from Kakashi, which by the way I severely doubt. I am confident that Kakashi would fuck Naruto up in a real fight.

Oujou Akaash
07-20-2007, 11:30 PM
See thats where you guys think differently. The naruto anime is for all viewers to watch including kids. So i really doubt that they will show an ANBU going around killing a child which i don't doubt anyone would get scared because of the reactions he might get from people who watches the show. And i think he knows that but if Naruto is for adults and only adults, which i think the manga is for...well, the new chapters are anyway it will be different. The new chapters for naruto is getting pretty bloody and everyone is all ninja like not to mention naruto is more of a ninja then ever.

So you guys might actually get your wish. meh! the fight between naruto and kakuza pretty much sums it up.

LT2000
07-20-2007, 11:34 PM
And what does all that have to do with us not wanting to see him protrayed in such a manner in fanfiction? I'm sure we all understand the reason the canon isn't so gory and dark, but that wasn't the point of the discussion.

LogrusMage
08-07-2007, 08:51 PM
How about we get some smart, powerful ANBU. In most fics, ANBU are cannon fodder, and are usually killed to show how powerful Naruto and/or other character is/has become. They're the assassination specialists for a reason god damnit.

And ninja's kill people. No "only if they've wronged someone' bullshit. They're ninja's for hire.

How about a fic where Sandaime doesn't immediately believe a time-traveled Naruto? He's the smartest leader of the most powerful village in the world, and he's a ninja. He'd be a little suspicious if a kid came in with stories of the future.

A Naruto with a weapon other than a katana.

Evil!Kyuubi that's more than just an annoyance in the back of Naruto's head.

A dark!Naruto fic where Sasuke goes dark with him. This right here would be an amazing thing to me. Sasuke/Naruto interaction (non-yaoi) is the best part of the series for me. If Naruto is 'light', he either kills or redeems Sasuke. If he goes Dark, he always gets to kill and/or humiliate Sasuke. I want Dark!Naruto and Dark!Sasuke in the same (non!Yaoi) fic.

Edit: LT2000: Your fic fucking rocks.