Muggles and Notice-me-not Charms

Shadowfox · 05-21-2012, 03:08 AM

This question has been bugging me for a while.

If a muggle knows that a notice-me-not charm is in place or are focusing on the general area, can they resist the spell even though they possess no magic?

wordhammer · 05-21-2012, 03:22 AM

A. We have a thread for questions that don't need a whole thread.

B. The Notice-Me-Not charm is a fanon invention so prevalent that people mistake it for canon. It was introduced six or more years ago, ostensibly to hide Severus Snape's bulging man-pregnancy.

C. Given [B.], there's not a muggle we'd ask who would want to figure out if they could see Snape's swollen belly.

D. If you're thinking of the Muggle-Repelling Charm, I'd say that they have no chance whatsoever. It'd be like your dog trying to answer a riddle.

Jormungandr · 05-23-2012, 06:11 PM

Damn, I actually thought it was a canon spell - probably one used by the Ministry for events like the Quidditch World Cup, or Hermione casting it during her camping holiday/book seven.

Looks like I need to re-read the books.

...

Or just be a lazy fucker, and listen to them in audio-book form.

Warlocke · 05-23-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wordhammer

D. If you're thinking of the Muggle-Repelling Charm, I'd say that they have no chance whatsoever. It'd be like your dog trying to answer a riddle.

Tom Marvolo Riddle?

laughandlove · 05-27-2012, 12:46 AM

There has never been any mention in the books of "notice-me-not" charms (unless I missed something in the 5+ reads of each book, which... well, I guess is still possible). I'm not as avid a ff reader as most on here, but I'm sure they did come from outside canon. What is mentioned is are Muggle Repelling Charms, which do prevent things from being seen by Muggles. Obviously.

But no, I don't think there'd be any chance of Muggles resisting. How would they know to even try? And I think it would sort of defeat the purpose of the spell. Wizards rely on these spells to safeguard their identity, after all... they'd better be foolproof. Hogwarts is supposed to have a preventative charm that makes it appear as an old ruin to Muggles, while at the same time they remember an urgent appointment that they've missed. Considering that Hogwarts has apparently not had any serious breaks in security for a few thousand years, I'd say the spells are pretty reliable.

Devour · 05-27-2012, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by laughandlove

Considering that Hogwarts has apparently not had any serious breaks in security for a few thousand years, I'd say the spells are pretty reliable.

I don't recall the books mentioning this, but it's been a long while I guess. Voldemort must have been a first.

On a more arbitrary note, the fanon Notice-Me-Not charm always reminded me of the phrase, "He loves me, he loves me not," going along with some girl in a dress plucking out petals from a flower.

El Duderino · 05-27-2012, 07:12 PM

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any serious breaks in security for a few thousand years

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breaks in security for a few thousand years

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a few thousand years

Gabrinth · 05-27-2012, 07:35 PM

^ this. Someone needs to read a few Founder's Age fanfics and remember when they built Hogwarts.

laughandlove · 05-28-2012, 01:02 AM

Okay yes, I messed up. I had some random date in my head for some reason. But over a thousand years... point still stands.

I knew it was more than a thousand, but just overshot the estimate...

CareOtters · 05-30-2012, 04:50 PM

No, actually. Hogwarts is a TARDIS. It's just been in Scotland for a thousand years.

The DarIm · 05-30-2012, 10:33 PM

^^This. Someone needs to write a fic about this. NOW.

disturbed27 · 06-01-2012, 12:37 AM

Founders walk to the top of a hill.
Hufflepuff: Wow!
Slytherin: What?
Huflepuff: Anyone else see that castle appear out of nowhere?
Doctor runs out of castle.
Doctor: Howdoyado. Mind watching this for a bit until I get back? Thanks.
Doctor runs off into forbidden forest.
Gryffindor: Huh.

El Duderino · 06-07-2012, 05:51 PM

There is always one.

05-21-2012, 03:08 AM	#1
Shadowfox Muggle Join Date: Oct 2011 Gender: Male Posts: 18 DLP Supporter	Muggles and Notice-me-not Charms This question has been bugging me for a while. If a muggle knows that a notice-me-not charm is in place or are focusing on the general area, can they resist the spell even though they possess no magic?

05-21-2012, 03:22 AM	#2
wordhammer Unspeakable Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: In the wood room, somewhere flat Gender: Male Posts: 848 DLP Supporter	A. We have a thread for questions that don't need a whole thread. B. The Notice-Me-Not charm is a fanon invention so prevalent that people mistake it for canon. It was introduced six or more years ago, ostensibly to hide Severus Snape's bulging man-pregnancy. C. Given [B.], there's not a muggle we'd ask who would want to figure out if they could see Snape's swollen belly. D. If you're thinking of the Muggle-Repelling Charm, I'd say that they have no chance whatsoever. It'd be like your dog trying to answer a riddle. __________________ Although our dark career sometimes involves the crime of stealing, We rather think that we're not altogether void of feeling. Although we live by strife, we're always sorry to begin it. For what, we ask, is life without a touch of Poetry in it? ~ Pirate King, Pirates of Penzance All must pay homage to glorious DLP C2. Better safe than sorry. ~wh~

05-23-2012, 06:11 PM	#3
Jormungandr God of Magic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: England. Age: 24 Gender: Male Posts: 2,673	Damn, I actually thought it was a canon spell - probably one used by the Ministry for events like the Quidditch World Cup, or Hermione casting it during her camping holiday/book seven. Looks like I need to re-read the books. ... Or just be a lazy fucker, and listen to them in audio-book form. __________________ My brand new (and currently completely empty!) blog that no one will probably give two shits about: * Grim Epitaphs *

05-27-2012, 12:46 AM	#5
laughandlove Muggle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Maryland Age: 23 Gender: Female Posts: 11	There has never been any mention in the books of "notice-me-not" charms (unless I missed something in the 5+ reads of each book, which... well, I guess is still possible). I'm not as avid a ff reader as most on here, but I'm sure they did come from outside canon. What is mentioned is are Muggle Repelling Charms, which do prevent things from being seen by Muggles. Obviously. But no, I don't think there'd be any chance of Muggles resisting. How would they know to even try? And I think it would sort of defeat the purpose of the spell. Wizards rely on these spells to safeguard their identity, after all... they'd better be foolproof. Hogwarts is supposed to have a preventative charm that makes it appear as an old ruin to Muggles, while at the same time they remember an urgent appointment that they've missed. Considering that Hogwarts has apparently not had any serious breaks in security for a few thousand years, I'd say the spells are pretty reliable. __________________ Bart: "Look at me, I'm a graduate student. I'm thirty years old, and I made 300 dollars last year." Marge: "Bart, don't make fun of grad students. They just made a terrible life choice." I suppose I made a terrible life choice. http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1078989/laughandlove

05-27-2012, 07:35 PM	#8
Gabrinth Avatar Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cary, NC Age: 23 Gender: Male Posts: 1,541 DLP Supporter	^ this. Someone needs to read a few Founder's Age fanfics and remember when they built Hogwarts. __________________ Banners made by Jon.

05-28-2012, 01:02 AM	#9
laughandlove Muggle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Maryland Age: 23 Gender: Female Posts: 11	Okay yes, I messed up. I had some random date in my head for some reason. But over a thousand years... point still stands. I knew it was more than a thousand, but just overshot the estimate... __________________ Bart: "Look at me, I'm a graduate student. I'm thirty years old, and I made 300 dollars last year." Marge: "Bart, don't make fun of grad students. They just made a terrible life choice." I suppose I made a terrible life choice. http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1078989/laughandlove

05-30-2012, 04:50 PM	#10
CareOtters Unspeakable Join Date: Jun 2010 Age: 21 Gender: Male Posts: 713	No, actually. Hogwarts is a TARDIS. It's just been in Scotland for a thousand years.

05-30-2012, 10:33 PM	#11
The DarIm Professor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: In dreams. Gender: Male Posts: 306	^^This. Someone needs to write a fic about this. NOW. __________________ I shall raise up the dead and they shall eat the living... I shall make the dead outnumber the living. "Great Empedocles, that ardent soul; Leapt into Etna, and was roasted whole" -Richard Osborne

06-01-2012, 12:37 AM	#12
disturbed27 DA Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Where dreams go to die. Gender: Male Posts: 246	Founders walk to the top of a hill. Hufflepuff: Wow! Slytherin: What? Huflepuff: Anyone else see that castle appear out of nowhere? Doctor runs out of castle. Doctor: Howdoyado. Mind watching this for a bit until I get back? Thanks. Doctor runs off into forbidden forest. Gryffindor: Huh. __________________ "Why do you keep on fighting, Demetrio?" Demetrio frowned deeply. Picking up a stone absent-mindedly, he threw it to the bottom of the canyon. Then he stared pensively into the abyss, watching the arch of its flight. "Look at that stone; how it keeps on going...."

06-07-2012, 05:51 PM	#13
El Duderino Professor Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: London Gender: Male Posts: 365	There is always one.

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