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The 100 Mafia

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Cobalt, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. Stanari

    Stanari Squib

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    Why does a roleblocker target NH?
     
  2. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Shot in the dark.

    They also could have copped him as Vig, but then font kill is hrm.

    My mafia Doctor theory could also be legit. :V
     
  3. Stanari

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    If NH was roleblocked as the vig last night, we would probably be having a different conversation.

    Not hedging against an Empoof shot in a world where they are probably going to try to push Reg is, uh, interesting. Although it probably outs Empoof anyway so maybe they put all their eggs in the other basket.
     
  4. Vaimes

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    Oh wow I got N1 and N2 mixed up, derp.
     
  5. Nothing Happens

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    I mean, if we're actually talking about this, I don't really know as I think about it more.

    It's possible from my play yesterday scum thought I knew too much, given no investigative role had turned up yet. It gets me into a game with Empoof where it's what I could possibly know, mechanically, vs. a wolf, and I guess I don't die in that world in the case that it outs a wolf.

    Like, I'd have to create enough of a fear that role copping me just to see what I am would be too slow, and I'm not sure I accomplished that.
     
  6. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Beats me also. All I could think of is they didn't want to kill you as you were a potential mislynch so they role blocked you instead in the event you were a PR. I was pretty confused initially with my results from last night
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    I think as of night start you were their best mislynch actually. Could've been a fear role block to ensure you couldn't come into day with a claim to be cleared from? Also makes you look worse when you claim if you are a PR - "guys I swear I'm investigative/etc but I was blocked!" Helps that you only know you were blocked if you did something, meaning if you're vanilla no harm no foul
     
  7. Jarizok

    Jarizok Auror DLP Supporter

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    Anyways guys. 4 scums ‘member?
     
  8. Eidolonic

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    Rip.

    Well played @Jan, you really got me.
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    Not going to vote, dunno what we're at, but dLGN's explosion very much feels like a 'caught for the wrong reasons' type thing here, on top of the track to Smiles - he knew he didn't target Fonti, but also knew Citrus was town, and that frustration spilled over, because a 'stupid' FPS correctly identified a wolf, etc.
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    I kind of don't think it's Kai here, but not sure I'm willing to fight against it too much.
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    If he flips roleblocker or something, it obviously clears Smiles, if he flips mafia doctor, game is over.

    Vig almost 100% has another shot in a 17er, 2-shot vig is definitely what setup would indicate.

    I'd probably just vig Kai if dLGN flips roleblocker, or vig Smiles if he flips something that'd want to target a partner, and we go from there if game doesn't end.
     
  9. Jarizok

    Jarizok Auror DLP Supporter

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    It’s M7
     
  10. Eidolonic

    Eidolonic Supreme Mugwump

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    Eidolonic
    Gemma
    Fontisian
    Fenwicked


    Citrus

    Newcomb
    Stanari
    Regfan


    Vaimes
    Jarizok


    Negoslot

    M+7

    KaiDASH

    dLGN

    Empoof
    Beruru

    Schroedinger's Smilefires - is both a wolf and not a wolf until we see dLGN's flip.
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    Certainly could be.

    Not sure I really feel like thinking about it too hard when game could just be over after the flip/in the night.
     
  11. Nothing Happens

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    Eido, I think seeing a shot N2 and not N1 tells me even-night vig.

    It's not impossible to have a full vig in a 17er but the night actions don't make that compelling.

    Also if I got wifom-docced or something I'll be pissed but try to do as much as I can.

    Citrus, I think you're right and I think they'd always rather have a claim fight with me than at worst accidentally out someone with my death.
     
  12. Eidolonic

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    Even night vig could make sense, but given we struggled to get a lynch on d1 because people were afk, I just assumed they holstered, as if we weren't going to lynch them, why would we vig them?

    I guess we'll find out!
     
  13. Nothing Happens

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    Actually, in the scenario where mafia used something good on me that probably means the POE is correct. Even without consecutive targeting, any deep wolf means there are 2 targets on your own team for good stuff last night.

    Like it'd be such a waste to have to do this to get a lynch off on me of all people.
     
  14. Eidolonic

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    Fwiw, my pregame prediction of what the setup was going to be was:

    2 Masons
    Restricted (2-shot? Odd night?) Tracker
    Bodyguard
    2-shot vig
    JoaT

    vs.

    Roleblocker
    Rolecop
    Doc
    Goon

    Looks like I overshot the general power level probably, but pretty close overall.
     
  15. Stanari

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    In a 17er? Boy.
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    This sounds about right. I am still entertaining some outside tinfoils, but yeah.
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    That would be an extremely strange world?
     
  16. Eidolonic

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    I am too, but I frankly don't want to waste time thinking or talking about them if the game is Just Over, you feel?
     
  17. Stanari

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    Based on this page or so, I could be convinced that Smiles is not scum.

    Yeah, fair enough (hi Empoof).
     
  18. M Plus 7

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    Ugh, IRL distractions again, sorry. Will definitely be here in a bit though.
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    Why don’t you think it’s Kai?
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    Lol.
     
  19. Stanari

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    I know someone said Jan/Vaimes unaligned but I have extreme Vaimes paranoia right now.
     
  20. Vaimes

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    wolfy pop-in

    Don’t worry I’m town.

    wolfy pop-out
     
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