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DC/Marvel-Harry xover

Discussion in 'Story Search' started by GrayFox, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. Heather_Sinclair

    Heather_Sinclair Chief Warlock

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    Death in the DCU is the same Death from Neil Gaiman's Sandman series. So that would have to be dealt with as well.

    This was talked about a little earlier in this thread. A Harry/Zeus connection, I think.
     
  2. Jormungandr

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    Yup - Amazons, Batman Incorporated, and all that jazz.

    Apparently, one of the reasons why DC decided to 'restart' things was to fully put the Sandman (and those other two comic book lines - Wildfire, I think?) into the DC universe, instead of them being 'tacked on/in'.

    Also, Death from Sandman is fucking awesome.

    If you want to read a good cross with Harry Potter about the Endless, read Path of Decision ; the ending is a bit disappointing, but the fic itself is very good.

    Spoiler alert for those who have already read it:

    I fully expected Harry to become 'Decision', a new Endless, to be honest - maybe be in a relationship with Death, too.

    The author apparently considered this, but didn't do it, as he/she felt that he/she couldn't pull it off right, apparently; PM's ftw.
     
  3. Thaumologist

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    I completely agree. Path of Decision is a great read, albeit some oddities (assassins wtf?); but the ending was not what I'd expected at all.
     
  4. Alive and Free

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    So I've got a couple of questions for people who read comics. Are males just outright not allowed on Themyscira or are they allowed if they get an invitation or what? What's the relationship between Zatanna and Madame Xanadu? Last question, has anyone read any good DCU fanfiction? If yes, please provide links.

    @Jormungandr; there was a lot of talk about you could easily overpower Harry in the type of fic that you proposed writing but, having just reread Water Mage's Project M, I've got a different opinion. I mean, sure he'll be more powerful than 95% of the superheroes but there'll still be the top tier ones who can match him - think Mage's epic Thor vs HJP fight. I guess what I'm trying to say is that a massively powerful Harry will still have equals in the DCU if it's anything like Marvel.
     
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    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5536346/1/Inviolate Is pretty good, although I've got some problems with it. Most people mention it as a sorta parallel with Shocker Legit (only instead of a secondary villain turning hero its Lex Luthor after he discovers some secrets about Earth).
     
  6. Heather_Sinclair

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    Themyscria: Men are forbidden to set foot on the island except by order of the queen. They can physically do it, but then the Amazons tend to kill them. Steve Trevor crash landed there, was brought before the queen (depending on which version we're talking about) and was allowed to live as long as Diana escorted him off the Island, thus beginning Wonder Woman's usual history.

    Madame Xanadu has many different histories, some good, evil, and neutral. So it's a complicated question. I would suggest going to Comicvine.dom and doing some reading on the characters.
     
  7. Jormungandr

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    Yeah, sorry for not replying for so long, but there was a bit of a personal tragedy this week.

    Is it just me, or is the 'new' Supergirl f*cking ugly?

    http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/new-52-supergirl/

    Her new costume is pretty shit, too.
     
  8. Heather_Sinclair

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    The artist sucks. And check me if I'm wrong, but the practical reason for wearing over the knee boots is for knee and shin protection, so why did they cut the knee section out? Because it's sexy?

    Or maybe Kryptonians are big into rug burns... maybe it's a status thing. :awesome
     
  9. Jormungandr

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    Or she's a sexual deviant.

    Kinky.

    In all seriousness, the artist does indeed suck - Kara looks more masculine than feminine in the new 52.
     
  10. Jormungandr

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    Relevant bump;

    So, after reading 'Terminal Justice' (which, though getting pretty ridiculous now, did satisfy my Harry/Kara cravings), I've got 'the bug' again. (Insert lame DLP STI joke, here).

    There's a new story up on ffn where Harry marries Talia and the alternate Kara Zor-El (Power Girl)...and it's pretty terrible, not just in plot but also in execution.

    If anyone's brave enough to read it: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7864560/1/Harrys_Vegas_Brides

    Please, someone tell me that there's more new, decent ones out there? Maybe ones that aren't on ffn, or slipped 'through the net'?
     
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    First one is a piss-poor femslash; not even considering it.
    Second is a fem!Harry, and I don't see why it was even written; the author could have used a wizard OC, instead, and it would have been a more flexible choice.
    Third is just terribly written, both in plot and in grammar.

    Yeah, you're right - couldn't bare any of them.
     
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    So relevant statement, AND my 500th post.

    Andro and I reached an accord recently that he and I will each pursue separate but equal Batman/HP crossovers, it's in the Plot Bunny Thread III. His update rate will probably be about 3/5ths of mine, and quite a bit darker.

    Hopefully we can get some other authors in to all try to keep around the same update speed, maybe we could choose someone as the overseer/taskmaster to whip us into shape?
     
  14. Alive and Free

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    Dear god, HP/DC crossovers seem to be getting worse. I didn't think that was possible.
     
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    It's like dividing by zero it should not be able to get more fucked up.

    Then some asshole adds x infinity to it and BAM it warps itself in an unholy spectacle of fail and terror.
     
  16. Jormungandr

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    You know, thinking about it, if Harry was chucked in from somewhere that wasn't the DCU (or, Hell, if a fusion is done, instead), I could see an interesting relationship dynamic between Teleute and Harry.

    It could be spun that, since Harry has essentially accepted/embraced death (keeping in line with JKR's message), he's a loophole in the rule; he's technically not a mortal - not anymore.

    He ages to 25, and at the very moment his body is -biologically- at its peak, he stops aging before it begins its decline.

    He can be wounded, hurt, but he can never die. The only way he's exiting the Universe is with Teleute, when she "turns off the lights" at the very end; essentially, billions of years into the future.

    He himself is tainted by death; his spells are altered at their fundamental level; for example, Aquamenti would bring forth stale, still water instead of fresh, and a Cutting Charm would simply and rather neatly 'rot away' the target area, which would normally have been gouged.

    The Cloak, Stone and Wand are apart of him, never being able to be lost or destroyed. When under the Cloak, she cannot see/find him. The Stone allows him to talk/commune with certain loved ones, although it cannot be used for long as it hurts them greatly.

    It's also a nail in the angst coffin, not being able to be with them.

    Harry's initially very angry and bitter over the first few centuries, because everyone he loves (and, eventually, their descendants) wither and die around him, and his relationship with her starts off very negative.

    She's apologetic, but there's little that she can do. She understands why he's so pissed off, and gives him space, though she does try to talk to him once in a while; mostly on her 'day off' every century.

    But, as time (the centuries), his rage cools to anger, and then to apathy and depression. She tries to keep him company when she gets the chance; the relationship dynamic improves over a (very) long period of time.

    He's essentially a 'sort-of-Endless', under Teleute; not apart of the family proper, but closer than a 'blood' descendant of one of Them.

    He's not bound by their rules per sey, but he has the best - and worst - of it all.

    This all, of course, would be an incredibly long, background, over-reaching storyline arch; in the meantime, he'd be making waves (basically self-contained stories, no matter how small/epic they can be, linked by said background plot-arch) in the DC Universe proper, finding kinship with those with either incredibly long lives (such as the Amazons/Superman/Supergirl) or "temporary/limited" immortality.

    He could even have relationships with various members of the DCU; initially, he falls for Black Canary, and they have a relationship.

    For the first time since Ginny's death (accident/murder would be more likely, as it's unlikely she's going to die of old age within the small -at that stage- time-frame), he's happy. He has a happy life with her, even marrying her.

    Eventually, and even after extending her life through various, non-abominable means, she dies of old age, and she's taken away by Teleute personally; her attempt at trying to 'ease the blow'.

    This, however, merely further fuels his resentment towards her.

    Kara is the one who helps him stay together; they already have a close friendship/relationship because of the many years they've worked together, and eventually -and after much dithering on both their parts- this blossoms into a relationship.

    Harry is happy, though guilt -and dread- still gnaws at the back of his mind.

    Over the centuries that he's with Kara, Teleute slowly grows notably jealous, having gradually gained an affection for Harry himself. Their rapore grows.

    Eventually, Kara dies through old age; Harry, however, has long accepted it; he knows that when it's time to go with Teleute, he'll see her, Dinah (Black Canary), and Ginny again, as well as everyone else.

    He and Teleute enter a relationship, of sorts, and he joins her in her duties.

    Eventually, the time comes, and everything ends. Cue happy ending, where he sees his past loved ones/parents, finally getting that hug from his mother, Lily.

    --

    Oh, and someone uploaded Terminal Justice to ffn;

    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7563137/1/Terminal_Justice

    There's also a shit-ton of Terminal Justice omakes in this story - see chapter names.

    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3287835/63/Mr_Black_Omake_Collection
     
  17. Heather_Sinclair

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    This can be easily accomplished by winding up in a one of the 52 other universes of DC. This way you could alter canon in a way that could be perceived as canon. Things will obviously be different and you can do what you want.

    This depends on whether or not the Endless have a consistent presence in all 52 worlds. I never read anything that says they are or aren't, but I haven't read everything either. I haven't even seen evidence that there area only 52 worlds anymore, since the newest DC reboot.
     
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    I'm honestly not sure if she (and her 'family') are apart of every world, but given their natures, I wouldn't be surprised.
     
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    She could be a benign aspect of the worlds; it's understood she is there, but rarely acknowledged.
     
  20. Jormungandr

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    Up to chapter 17 on this one; http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5920203/1/Harry_Potter_Returns

    The set-up is sort of interesting, but there are a few cliches.

    The plot starts with Superman Returns' storyline, at least for the first third or so of the fic', but quickly diverges into its own, so no 'insert Harry into this' sort of crapola.

    The author -rather lazily- copies text from Half-Blood Prince in one chapter, and at one point it's glaringly obvious (going to the Alley for a second time, but reacting to it as if it's the first, with Half-Blood Princes' canon reaction), but it only happens once or twice for one chapter.

    It's fairly decent, a 3/5 at least, at least for me.
     
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