Thing with Reg's play is that he hardly actually did anything giving me reason to believe he could be town until like right at the very end of D4. And even that is screwed up by the fact his stance there simply doesn't even make any sense (and yet is exactly the one scum-him would need to take, regardless of how much he tries to say this isn't true).

These past 24-48 hours or however long are the absolute first time I feel he's really got his head into things in the same way he's does when he's town, the way that (lololol) ~resonates~ with me. And I don't think it's above scum-Reg to be able to play a typical sort of "maintain high activity but low content" scum game and be able to come out with one good day of play today, his self-deprecation of his scum game notwithstanding.

 

Actually where is blab voting rn?

 

The point I was trying to drive at was that I think Miner/DC makes a lot of sense if Reg is town. I still need to actually check DC's posts, though.

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Like the impression I get of Reg's early play this game is that I can see him laughing in the scum QT something along the lines of "I town read Waco just based on him saying 'hi Plot are you scum', totally legit read amirite!!11 Zenzao is totally lock-town despite him not having done anything!!! I'm just blatantly linking people to all of my partners before they flip, totally a legit strat!!!".

I don't want him to come back in postgame and laugh at me if I don't pick up on this shit. ._.

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blab just moved onto Miner.

 

I'll hold my vote then.

 

It's 7 to hard lynch, not 5, no?

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Wait 8 alive, 6 to hard lynch then.

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dichotomousCreator - None is the answer to the question you were asking. I see no teams that involve zero of you or Fable being mafia. I've got into exactly where I'm at a few times on this, not sure what about it is hard to follow.
Fable - Cobalt/Pie is never a thing for like a million different reasons. No need to tinfoil there.

Need to go over Blabs post about Fable/Miner when I'm not half working half trying to follow along.

 

Honestly, I skimmed it and got a rough idea and then hung onto it in case you looked scummier, which you didn't. I may also have gotten sucked into reading a bunch of pie's old games instead because they were Touhou role madness games >_>

As for the tinfoil, pretty much has to be with Regscum (Reg argued against this when I brought it up) and I don't think pie is still knocking over Reg in that world since Reg flipping makes it more plausible. In summary, no pie is not scum.

It also requires daychat to coordinate properly? Like maybe Cobalt attempts a derpclaim and attacks a buddy and hopes they cotton on, but it doesn't feel like it fits for some reason.

Regarding recent events: I can accept a lynch set of {Miner, ONE of dC/blab, Regfan}. My main misgivings are that Reg will get either blab lynched after I flip town or me lynched after blab flips town. And you know what yeah fine blab is town I said it just lynch one of me or him and then lock in the other as not scum. If you don't buy my townread on him I'm happy to get lynched after he flips scum as we'll have a spare lynch and it'll pretty much guarantee the other scum is Miner b/c there's no goddamn way Miner is town especially with this complete disappearing act he's pulled right as me and Reg are bellyaching at each other.

In short, blab/Miner is blab's only even possible scumteam FMPOV, Reg/Miner still feels more likely, and I'm not putting Miner at L-1 yet but I think we should probably lynch him today. If nothing else, Miner flipping scum invalidates dC/blab and Miner flipping town invalidates my existence as a mafia player >_>

RE: Reg being today's designated mislynch, if this is true then Miner is 100% scum in all worlds (because if Miner isn't scum then HE'S the designated mislynch). I think this means that at minimum one of those two is scum.

Also the thing that is "very wrong" with this game could still be Miner as soloscum. I'm not interested in worldbuilding 4scum worlds because they're so much easier to catch, but considering that they're possible makes things feel like they make more sense.

tl;dr we should lynch Miner, if Miner flips town I am conceding (but FMPOV scum is Reg/blab)

 

Yeah like I still see solo-scum being an OK explanation for what's "wrong" with the game.\

I just can't fucking piece things together if I'm assuming two scum. But I'm aware of the whole "assume WCS" thing, so.

 

Okay and in this case you are just flat out wrong because neither me or Fable are scum. And quite frankly trying to drag Fable in like that reads as "oh no blab doesn't feel plausible enough if dC is town now that dC is hard defending blab I better find another mislynch for after miner and dC flip!"

Oh also you're right about hardlynch. Lynch: Miner

 

Oh, real quick point. If I get NK'ed and Reg then tries to go back and say "oh pie was starting to come around to me being town!!1" and pull that up as a point that he must be town, lynch him immediately. I don't even care who has or hasn't flipped by then.

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I don't want to end the day yet but I wanted to bring that up. Just cuz yeah.

 

like tl;dr fuck it I am betting the game on everyone who isn't Miner or Regfan being town. You can call this dC/blab collecting their mislynches all you want, but that falls apart as soon as Miner flips scum anyway at which point we have a spare mislynch to waste on me so whatever. Particularly since Miner flipping scum means scum!blab would have to be blab/miner which people seem to think is unlikely sooo...

I might be losing to scum!blab here, admittedly, but I think Reg has a point about conviction and there's no way I'm attempting any sort of gameplan that relies on me being alive at endgame. So I'm picking the two most likely scum and pulling y'all down with me.

anyway yeah so one of Miner/Reg is scum minimum based on what I said before (i.e. IF one of them is the designated mislynch then the other one is scum pushing them), if Miner is town then pretty much everyone agrees blab is lockscum I think and I'd propose lynching blab first in case we ARE in 4scum world and it's blab, but I expect if Miner flips town we'll lynch blab and then me and Reg will win and I probably can't fight that.

 

Counting is hard you guys. x_X

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What is with everyone wanting to thunderdome Reg?

 

If Miner flips town, Reg needs to die first thing tomorrow imo.

 

dC town soulread

 

It's not so much that, in my case I'm mostly just tying up loose ends to make it so there's absolutely no possible escape route for a scum-Reg to get to endgame here.

I'm still up in the air on whether I want to lynch him or Miner today. Miner lynch is actually growing more and more appealing to me the more I think of it.

 

If the mafia bring me to LyLo, I'm gonna concede.

(Not really.)

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He's the Worst.

 

Going to go eat, brb.

 

Hi I have relatives from halfway across the planet over so I'm probably not going to be super around.

I /guess/ I'm okay with my mislynch going through, but Reg dies first thing tomorrow and you guys have got to promise me that you figure out blab, dC after that.

Also, do NOT let Stanari play this "let's sheep reads thing" that she was doing yesterday (I dunno if she's changed today, haven't read.)

Ta-ta for now, if you haven't hardlynched me before I come back I'll actually catch up and respond.

 

Reg; "I'm leaning towards the most likely scum team being DC/Blab at the moment".
Others; "Lets lynch Miner"
Others; "Yeah, lets kill Miner today"
Others; "Vote Miner"
Others; "Yeah okay, vote; Miner"
Pie; "If Miner flips town you lynch Reg tomorrow"

 

"Hey guys I don't actually care if you mislynch me today and possibly go to lylo btw lol didn't read"

I hate you miner, I hate you so goddamn much. -_-"