I think the specifics that beru is piling wrt Wei is scum-motivated. Picking on him not having a decisive read at this point on d1 is kinda hard to buy considering the amount of available info.

Not really sure if it's a bus or not.

 

We have like 18 hours right?

Could people start voting for me, just for the time being?

 

Okay, so this reread is:
- From my last posted readwall from #668 (referenced in below spoiler)

Spoiler

Town (dC)
Rubicon
dyachei
weiyaoli
Barely Above Null
Owner
Fable
Vaimes
Acionyx
Null (Beruru, Cobalt, Jarizok, jwlk)
tom
Miner
Barely Below Null
fluffiness
KaiDASH
Citrus
Scum

- Taking requests to look at weiyaoli and beru/Acio in particular (from tom and Miner respectively)

Okay so first note the back and forth with me/Miner has improved my read there. I think scum!Miner probably would have either picked up I was reaction testing and played around it, or at the very least not cared hugely about the inconsistencies I was throwing off trying to not disclose what I was doing given there was more interesting stuff going on.

owner also points out the voting discrepancy, which is probably good.

quick reminder that I wanted Acio to check out Kai/Beru/Jarizok/tom on a reread.

Kai appears to be actually doing things now, but it's nothing exceptional so I'm not willing to give him much for it. Probably keeps him off the chopping block for today?

fluff by contrast is still lurking but I don't think he's done anything actually scummy either. Plus #730 using "I've posted a lot!" as a defense when those posts are all useless is super >____>

Beru shows up and does pointless things. Vaimes side eyes Beru/Acio/tom. Fable says a bunch of things that feel defensive? Interesting note: Rubicon tells Vaimes to vote Citrus, Vaimes votes Citrus, Miner calls Vaimes scum for voting Citrus. Weak Miner/Vaimes not w/w, because if Vaimes is scum he's voting Citrus to try and shed heat and if Miner is also scum he's sabotaging this because ???

tom's single issue continues to be weiyaoli's read on me. I went back further and read weiy's posts, and...ugh. Maybe? I really don't think weiy would be brazen/inconsistent enough to go "I think XYZ is scummy, dC did XYZ, I townread dC for no reason" like tom seems to be concluding, but on rereading I can see how he could stumble on that conclusion.

...then I reread #601 and on top of it still being a good post despite me disagreeing with it, my new conclusions NOW agree with most of it! So yeah weiy is still town guys the positive Miner read especially reads very well to me now. tom graduates to null with the discovery that the weiy position is more reasonable than I thought it was, but not further because a failure to do anything but shove a townread of mine is worrisome.

Jari gets a slight bump for general positivity and consistency. Still feels a BIT lackluster, but not enough to keep him in null. Hardpushing Vaimes town and Beru scum is a pretty good place to be, although a weakly justified townread on Fable deserves scrutiny if Fable turns out to be scum. Beruru --- Why do you have Jarizok as top scum in #960? ...also why do you then say Jarizok's posts are fine in #968???

oh bleh but tom's response in #849 is kind of shitty. Like, what I post is basically the same thing I said previously (i.e. weiy was referring to why Owner might scumread me, not what weiy thought of me) but now it suddenly makes me and weiy scum! It's kinda like he's trying really hard to sustain that point of view.

also tom thinks citrus is town and I don't feel like anything I'm reading from citrus turns me around on how icky the dyachei fight was. Also why the hell is Citrus top towning fluffy in #884 what has he actually done this game serious question ._.

I'm gonna ask for outside opinions on this one. Is tom's assessment of me/weiyaoli reasonable? b/c I'm on the fence but leaning towards "it isn't".

As a note on Miner's beru vote...okay yeah that makes sense given the context.

#886 is VERY interesting b/c there's literally no votes on fluff despite people disliking him. This on top of the lack of anyone following ME to fluff on top of fluff's generally poor performance is not good. Combined with #884 as mentioned above I kind of want to say Citrus/fluff coaligned?

Citrus hops on weiy in #891. I think he also thinks tom is town at this point? If Citrus is a fan of powerwolfing I'd propose Citrus/fluff/tom at this point, although Citrus/tom is probably either w/w or v/v because I think if one of them was scum they'd probably be trying to push their counterwagon rather than both dicking around on weiy instead. If it's v/v I might have to reevaluate weiy, but until then weiy is still fairly solid town.

I don't! I think you've started actually doing things enough that I don't want to immediately kill you any more.

Feel like Owner is still kinda slipping...down, down, down into the Null Zone. Same kinda stuff

New readwall after this:
Town (dC)
Rubicon
dyachei
weiyaoli
Miner
Barely Above Null
Vaimes
Jarizok
Null (Cobalt, jwlk, Owner)
KaiDASH
tom
Barely Below Null
fluffiness
Citrus
Scum

Special(Acionyx,Beruru,Fable)

This special category is confusing. Fable is lockwolfing Acio, beru is locktowning Acio, and Acio is going after BOTH of them for lazily reading him. I want to lean towards Acio town, Fable/beruru scum for this, since it demonstrates high consistency on Acio's part, but I also really want to see how this plays out further before formalizing any conclusions.

For now, I don't think Acio is scum with Fable OR beruru and I think Fable/beru both being scum is possible but unlikely esp. given Fable hops onto the beruwagon in #1013. As such, I think this group of three probably either contains exactly one scum or some Little Witch shenanigans are taking place and I don't really know how to read those. Outside bet on Fable/beru both being elder and staging the whole thing. Most likely scum of the group is probably beru, followed by Fable, with Acio bringing up the rear.

Only interested in lynching in beru/Fable/Citrus/tom/fluff today. Think on balance it's Lynch: Citrus at this stage, although I have observed several of my townreads flowing off him so I would like it if they could provide a towncase on him for me to consider...I'm really just not seeing it, guys.

BONUS:

That doesn't make any fucking sense. What on earth are you smoking???

 

Vote:Fable

^ Copy paste that.

 

I'm sooooo sorry I kind of like dropped off the face of the planet cuz I'm moving into my dad's house this week and I've been packing my entire life and kind of forgot this game existed my fault :s

I have people over rn so there's literally not much I can do to catch up until tomorrow but I PROMISE I will be present after that and going forward, my bad guys. Would appreciate a slide by today.

 

Yee it's cool don't worry about it.

 

Still rereading but 2 things: I'd put beru as lock town at this point because I don't remember her ever having as much edge in her scumposts as she's had in recent ones and Miner there too because he pulled out my metagame stance before I even did and I seriously do not see scum making that connection and going all in on it.

 

why? And tempting

 

Because I'm playing like shit. I know that, you know that, pretty much everyone playing knows that (except I guess the people that legit think I'm a wolf those people are lol cuz they should know my wolf game is way better than this) and honestly I need something to snap me out of it and the threat of death seems like a good way to do it. So basically I want to put an ultimatum on myself that I want people to hold me to, either I improve or you guys lynch me and I want you to hold me to that.

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And honestly if you don't I'm probably just going to keep being meh which is no good.

 

So I had fluff as null and decided to start there. I was expecting to start a wolf lean based on lack of content but there's more than you expect when you actually read it.

I like this. I like that he's picking out things that jump out at him as awkward. That tends to be either town trying to figure out alignments or scum trying to push a mislynch on a "slip". This feels more like the former

Also like this. He's reading people on reactions and using his reads to make new reads.

I also like that he noticed this quickly.

Would like more detail here, but it's still content and it's still decent.

I like this reaction.

I do find this a little...hypocritical? But also think it's a decent look currently.

Also this. These posts read pure and he's really trying to figure out what reads he agrees with and which he doesn't.

And this is consistent with his progression anyway. He can have a very light town lean right now.

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Vote: Fable

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Sorry I didn't reply sooner. Decided to actually do an ISO.

 

Thank you. <3

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Okay just getting organized I have miner, jari, owner, kai, dC, vaimes, cobalt, dya as people I don't need to look at right now so I'll get started on ISOing the rest.

 

thoughts on the fluff read?

 

I'm going to go from least posts to most posts which means I'm doing fluff first so let me do that and then we can compare notes.

 

So later on you questioned why I didn't go and see if Oracle was in the setup or not. But here you are taking it like it is fact.

I guess I'm wondering why you would question me about why I didn't look when you didn't look yourself or wrote it off as being so.

Well, I guess what I'm getting at is that you felt the need to call it an oracle, but then it wasn't in the setup. Why should I have gone back and looked when you practically claim it like it was fact.

Vote DC

The vote is more so what I said earlier about being stiff. You have also done a lot more mechanical or surface talk. I liked some of your bigger posts, but the need to change your playstyle or play differently than the last game doesn't give you any favors. You could be trying to change your playstyle for the better, or that could just be a scummy excuse, which is where I'm leaning more so too.

Maybe a lot of your posts feel jumpy or bit awkward to me, it doesn't seem like it is coming from a natural place. It sounds or reads like you are trying too hard or trying to orchestrate your posts, if that makes sense.

You, Vaimes and tom are currently the ones that I probably want to lynch the most at this moment.

 

That feeling when you realize tom has actually been claiming roles since page 1.....jfc what have I been doing this game?

 

See, I'd townread Fable for what he's doing wrt the self vote but he did something similar last game so rip.

 

Acio's last post on this matter:

u fukken wot m8

 

I tried to point this out to you :facepalm

 

Yeah, question 1 would you consider that role hunting?

hint:

Spoiler

yes

Should he likely die?

hint:

Spoiler

yes

Just my opinion

 

That was Reg putting me under pressure and I did it to fake a panicked progression so I had an excuse to vote him cuz I didn't think I could beat him in f4, I asked for this and could easily avoid not getting lynched today otherwise.