dyachei

Wanna rethink our little/elder witch discussion?

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dyachei

Wanna rethink our little/elder witch discussion?

 

No. Because it was on Beru's end that I didn't think it was w/w unless Beru is exactly little witch.

 

fuckin phone posting rip.

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I think one of Acio and beru need to die today and id appreciate it if anyone who disagrees to come forward now.

 

So fluffy,

He does prety much nothing for a good while but I like him calling out citrus's vote on dya and backing it up. Little confused about fluffy's kai read in 645 seeing as how he was leaning villager on kai in 320. Not a fan of 727 just because it seems really lazy. His tom vote is just kind of w/e, overall fluff is null for me and I think there's more stuff I don't like than do but if I wasn't acolyte to fluffy in WH8 I probably would have lynched the shit out of him there so I need to take that into consideration.

 

Also now that I'm thinking about it deadline is at the worst time for me so I might not ever be around at deadline.

 

So you're not my acolyte this game? Sadness.

 

dichotomousCreator, why is Jarizok so null for you? I searched your ISO and found no particular reasoning other than

"Jari stays in null, good analysis post but yet another Citrus vote feels kind of like a cop-out at this stage in the day."

which I don't understand. What makes that a cop-out? and

"Jari gets a slight bump for general positivity and consistency. Still feels a BIT lackluster, but not enough to keep him in null."

Which is super vague.

 

Nope. That's me making a joke because I know Oracle isn't in the game already. I say this as soon as Jarizok points out it isn't.

Only thing I'll say on this is that this game is that I am making a scrupulous attempt to keep myself consistent this game because being inconsistent last game is I think a big part of what went wrong (forgetting my scumread on Miner, ignoring past history of basically everyone up until the last day where it was way too late, etc). So in a sense, yes I am orchestrating my posts because for this game at least I don't entirely trust myself to remain consistent otherwise.

Wait no I'll say a second thing: Ignoring everything that's happened in the thread and just bouncing back to an old read for the same reasons is bad. Like, it kind of looks like you're using your scumread on me as a crutch to generate activity.

So: Why do you want to lynch Vaimes and tom, preferably taking into account their recent behaviour? Do you have a read on Citrus? Beruru? weiyaoli? What are your positions on literally anyone else?

PREVIEW EDIT: Ok you answered on tom. That's good! What else you got?

(DOUBLE PREVIEW EDIT: Fluffy commentary is interesting. I think the votes of confidence are enough that I'm not interested in running over fluff today any more)

 

Can you describe your progression on kai up until now in detail?

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Doing weiyoali, Beruru, Acio, Citrus in that order and then sleeping.

 

Oh goddamit you had to post this 2 seconds before I posted my thing :V

Okay, so:
- The Citrus vote was a cop-out because Citrus already had a large wagon. Thus in the middle stage of the day it does little of value (no-one's behaviour is going to change because Citrus's leading wagon is slightly more leading) and increases the chance we all end up consolidated on one wagon thus leading to less information on later days. (You may recognize this as the reason I didn't vote Citrus at that time)

- The other thing is vague b/c Jarizok's posts just feel like "generic goodstuff town". Yanno, consistent positions, good reasoning, et cetera. His actual positions aren't wildly unjustified but also aren't crazy controversial, he hasn't posted MUCH and hasn't pushed too hard for the things he believes in, but overall the feel is slightly positive.

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EBWOP: I guess to answer your question, he reads to me like bland town and I'm not willing to make that a strong townread because scum tend to like reading like bland town and it's easier than reading like proactive town.

 

dC, I'd like to think Jari's defense of tom(even if it is now mixed with paranoia) along with the huge wall post he did is decently controversial.

 

Sure. Early on I feel good about Kai. He's somewhat present, acting like he normally does... Just all around not scummy.

Then the thread goes and. And Kai's not showing up. So I move him to null. That's when I contested Jari's townread on him.

But Kai's been actually doing things since then? Like, he's been pushing Acio, has given a readwall.

I don't quite know what to think of #844, given that Kai helped design the setup, so him getting the amount of witches wrong is kind of .

So currently leaning town on him (again), but if Acio or tom is town, Kai immediately shoots back down my list.

 

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Hmm...I was under the impression that a couple other people also had townreads on tom (like...beru and Citrus? I know Citrus at least does) which kinda made it less so. Plus it's not like tom's an unambiguous leading wagon or anything.

Like. It's more controversial than townreading Rubicon, but kinda not enough to qualify for "crazy" in my opinion. Plus townreads are inherently less controversial on D1 simply because there are more town players in the game and D1 cases are generally weaker than cases on later days.

(so in summary it is a BIT controversial but I don't think to the point of too controversial for scum to want to do)

 

Pretty sure there are 4 Elder Witches, not 3

 

"Elder Witches are added at 1, 6, 10 and 20 players."

From the halftime ruleset. This game is 17 players, yes?

...is this a non-Elder slip, anyone?

 

...

Ok, 5 witches in 17 players makes way more sense than 6 in 17.

Wow.

 

So weiyaoli,

I disagree with most of 346. Think judiging RVS stuff is always bad and potentially wolfy. Saying rubicon's posts only go downhill and then giving him a V read is rather strange to me (not to mention he's his only V read in this post). The way he talks about miner does not sound like he should be giving him wolf read, not sure how he gives that description of miner and has him as anything other than null. Owner wolf read also bad because it's essentially agreeing with her vote while disagreeing with the reasoning which is perfectly fine but it's not necessarily wolfy and he doesn't really give his own read of dC which is meh.

Like the progression on owner in 379 otherwise nothing too noteworthy here. Explains the miner read more here 598. I don't agree with it but I understand how it could be perceived as wolfy so it doesn't bother me so much the jari read is still terrible though. Very meh on 605, just comes across as picking on lhf and I dislike the beruru hedge. Reading on just getting the general feeling that while I disagree with a lot of what wei as been saying I can follow the thought processes which is probably a good thing. Null to very slight V.

 

How would that be a little witch slip? I don't think the little witches think of themselves as elder witches. Also aren't there two little witches so if it was a true slip it should've been five?

 

No, as in literally non-Elder (i.e. LW or town)

Only reason it doesn't rule out LW as well is LW I could imagine legit getting the number of Elders wrong.