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Witch Hunt #9 Halftime Edition

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Jan, Jul 10, 2017.

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  1. Fable

    Fable First Year

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    Still not a witch.
     
  2. Beruru

    Beruru First Year

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    I'm just trying to figure out what we should do in a place where other people can respond to it? I know it's bad but there are times when it's not... that bad.
     
  3. weiyaoli

    weiyaoli Third Year

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    So I didn't actually write that many words it seems, but that feels like it took forever, so I'm gonna go home and sleep and stuff.
     
  4. Beruru

    Beruru First Year

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    Beru's New Rainbow List (That I'm Really Glad I Didn't Make Before The Claim):

    Beru
    Newcomb
    Owner
    Vaimes
    Silver
    Miner
    dC
    Fluff
    Kai
    Citrus
    Wei
    Jari
    Fable

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    Everything from Silver to Citrus is Weird.

    I have this tinfoil about Miner/Fluff LWs if Fable is Town and throwing but I don't want that to be true.

    Miner #1270... is still weird for me, though. I've been thinking about this for twenty IRL days and still don't understand what it means.

    Tom's #1385 is some wine. All of Tom's posts are wine. I should look at the posts of people who are not Tom.

    People who can be Coven with Tom... not dC or Fluff, not Silver (can never be Elder because of things imo), not me, not the Agents (lol), not Vaimes... honestly I don't think Acio could have been Coven with Tom now that I've actually had more time to think. Welp. Probably not Fable. Probably not Kai but that's the point in a CFD where witches start to hop on.

    So, the people who can actually be Coven with Tom are... Citrus (Tom's Citrus Thoughts are extremely high in alcohol content), Miner but it would be weird and I don't think Miner would be that obvious in the face of a partner getting lynched (anyone have any thoughts to the contrary? Please share!), and... that's all the interactions based on who had thoughts about the CFD plus what we know now. Rip.

    As for people who had no interactions during the CFD... Jari and Wei stayed on me the entire time (though they weren't around).

    So our coven candidates just based off of CFD shit should be... Citrus, Miner, Jari, Wei, and maaaaybe Kai. If we are in the world where Mal was Town or LW, there's two scum in here.

    Coven!Jari with LW!Fable is still a thing I am going to think about.

    Still can't believe we actually lynched Malcio.

    I still need to find out why Dyachei died. Maybe it was to frame Fable? They have played the most games together, I think...
     
  5. Citrus

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    And it could just as easily be because Dyachei would get a good read on scum!Fable if the game went long enough. It goes both ways.

    You're not being objective. If you're going to pick a stance Beruru, you should justify it somehow or else you're literally just throwing out scenarios willy-nilly

    ---------- Post automerged at 05:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:29 PM ----------

    Ok I feel like the game's kinda stalling out.

    Where're we at right now? We have a wagon on Jarizok and a wagon on Fable? We potentially have a Hunter shot toNight. It's looking fairly likely like unless something bucks where we're going, 1 or both of those two will be dying (by lynch, ?by Hunter shot?).
    owner Newcomb as the town!firms you guys could do a lot of leading rn. Thoughts? Do you think we should continue in this direction, or another, or what?

    ---------- Post automerged at 05:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:36 PM ----------

    Does anyone else think we've kinda stalled? What's interesting is we built up a wagon on Jarizok + Owner. Owner one diffuses with the claim, and the Owner wagon kinda peters over to Fable. Beyond that nothing's really happening. Are scum happy with the way things are going rn? Are they not happy but rolling over? If at any point discussion was heated toDay where people were getting invested, it'd only be on either the mechanics discussion of the Rubicon death or the mechanics discussion on the Hunter.

    Noone thinks Jarizok and Fable are both v/v correct? Or does someone think that right now?
     
  6. Fable

    Fable First Year

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    How are these two thoughts in the same post?

    Also killing dya is a bad way to frame me since I would never kill that early on. Take away the one person who knows me well and would defend me here yes maybe.

    ---------- Post automerged at 06:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:47 PM ----------

    Dya has never beaten me when we're w/v fwiw.

    ---------- Post automerged at 06:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:48 PM ----------

    Actually wait she beat me in anni but that was a mash and mashes are dumb.
     
  7. Beruru

    Beruru First Year

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    I'm thinking out loud because I'm tired of thinking to myself.
     
  8. Fable

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    I think this but I'm probably biased.
     
  9. Beruru

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    Like, I want other people's thoughts on my thoughts, so I post them.

    This is what I meant by Owner and I having similar play styles, by the way. I'm just... better at explaining why I'm doing it, or at least I think I am.
     
  10. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    My point was just that it's a pretty empty thought when there's nothing to back it up. Like why is that more likely than the complete opposite? Who knows because all that's there is the statement of a possible world and that's it

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    I'm a little shocked you think it's possible for me to be knowingly co-aligned with Tom Beruru considering how hard he was pocketing me, but I guess I'm technically biased and can't really comment on it usefully so yeah
     
  11. Beruru

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    I don't know what this means.

    I posted it that thing because I want to know if Fable can somehow be town.

    I feel like we're solidly in "Tom posts" territory now, though.
    ... and, yeah. Lol. It doesn't have to be pocketing if it's just wine. Yomi?

    I mean there is hell world if "what if Tom bus was planned from the beginning" for dC and/or fluff things (just by Tom's content, he was obvwolfing all day and I'm not sure if that's a "refuge in audacity" or if he's just straight witch) but... I don't really think so.

    Game is hard.
     
  12. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    I think we're entering more playstyle differences, so I'll probably say we should save it for post-game if we really want to talk about it more.

    I just don't see the usefulness in proposing hell worlds like that. Like what if Rubicon was scum and self-killed AND illusion killed himself to prevent the struggles of lying as a scum!GD? Oh wait no that's a pretty ridiculous thing to even consider. Yeah that's like some of these 'hell worlds' you're proposing. Unless there's a reason why we should consider it, it just ends up being post fluff
     
  13. Beruru

    Beruru First Year

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    Well. I'll save it for my quicktopic, I guess.

    Can I post the "Witches used both Illusion and Role Kills to activate the Witch Hunter" hell world, though?
     
  14. KaiDASH

    KaiDASH Auror DLP Supporter

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    All you did today was post this

    Then naked vote vaimes, then not do anything for the rest of the day.

    So your play here as town is "not try because you're salty at people" which uh. You'll have to forgive me for wanting to lynch you then, because the witch option of "not try because you're happy with the way game is going" actually makes sense.

    This reads like a super fake thought.

    Can you explain your thinking here Miner because I don't understand how someone can end up at this place.
     
  15. Fable

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    Except you know that's not my style. In RWBY did I ever sit back and just let things happen? I think I got lazy with my blab read late in the game but beyond that I was pretty active and engaged the entire time. You know why? Because I had direction, I had information and options and knew how I could use all of it.

    What do I have here? Being a villager I don't know who the witches are so I can't point at one and craft a perfect argument and bus them or do the same to villager trying to lynch another villager and make them out as wolfy cuz I know everything wrong with their argument. Beyond that I have nobody to listen to me and unlike WH8 no way to prove my innocence. Priest probably won't check me since I'm so likely to be haunted, Rubicon who would have been honest is dead, UT is silent so I have no way to know if I was right on acio and I doubt the spiritualist will actually use there power on me. It's a situation where I'm essentially powerless so yeah I'm going to do nothing and I'm going to die because that's all I can do.
     
  16. Silvercrys3467

    Silvercrys3467 Squib

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    I'm in a weird place.

    Livelist
    Beruru
    Citrus
    dichotomousCreator
    Fable
    his fluffiness
    Jarizok
    KaiDASH
    Miner
    Newcomb
    Owner
    Silvercrys3467
    Vaimes
    Wei
    I'm town.
    Newcomb and Owner are town, I guess.
    Pretty sure Miner and Vaimes are still town, too.

    These reads are either obvious or I'm not talking about them, so.

    Silvercrys3467
    Owner / Newcomb
    Miner / Vaimes

    Beruru
    Citrus
    dichotomousCreator
    Fable
    his fluffiness
    Jarizok
    KaiDASH
    Wei
    I still think Citrus is proooobably town, just the [redacted] doesn't apply so. Pbbbt. Basically, I'm pretty confident he's not an Elder because of tom's pocket, and I'm relatively sure he doesn't claim "not in a QT with tom" if he's a Little Witch because if tom had flipped Agent he'd just be dead? That on top of his D2 play is like. He's probably town.

    Silvercrys3467
    Owner / Newcomb
    Miner / Vaimes

    Citrus
    Beruru
    dichotomousCreator
    Fable
    his fluffiness
    Jarizok
    KaiDASH
    Wei
    Beruru conflicts me. On the one hand her first, like, two days are doubleplus ungood. On the other, she's been alright since, like, Question Time ish? And on the third hand literally nothing makes sense unless she's a witch but on the fourth lol my reads are apparently terrible. And on the fifth hand she could still be a LW who /thought/ Citrus was an agent, but on the sixth hand she's never an Elder because she'd have known he couldn't be and that probably just doesn't happen if she knows that?

    I have a lot of hands.

    Silvercrys3467
    Owner / Newcomb
    Miner / Vaimes

    Citrus
    Beruru
    dichotomousCreator
    Fable
    his fluffiness
    Jarizok
    KaiDASH
    Wei
    Fable is... ugh. I ~kind of~ think he's a villager but that's, like, a gut gun-to-my-head-what-is-his-alignment thing and not a real read on things he's done that I can substantiate, etc. I won't feel bad if he gets lynched or killed by the hunter or whatever, I just don't really feel good about doing it.

    Silvercrys3467
    Owner / Newcomb
    Miner / Vaimes

    Citrus
    Beruru / Fable
    dichotomousCreator
    his fluffiness
    Jarizok
    KaiDASH
    Wei
    Lots of people are clearing or townreading fluff for starting the CFD on tom, but... he could be a Little Witch who really thought he was an Agent. He could also be town. I don't know how anyone gets a real read on him, especially when he pointedly refuses to answer questions.

    Silvercrys3467
    Owner / Newcomb
    Miner / Vaimes

    Citrus
    Beruru / Fable / his fluffiness
    dichotomousCreator
    Jarizok
    KaiDASH
    Wei
    dC, Jarizok, KaiDASH, and Wei are where things get weird for me. I've thought all of them were town while reading their posts at some point or another. But even if, like, all three of my waffle reads are witches at least one of them is, too, and likely two to three of them are? Because even if it's /just/, say, Fable is town and my gut read is right, two of those four are witches.

    Silvercrys3467
    Owner / Newcomb
    Miner / Vaimes

    Citrus
    dichotomousCreator / Jarizok / KaiDASH / Wei
    Beruru / Fable / his fluffiness
    We have, what, 24 hours to a pick a lynch? I'll start rereading those four I guess, but I probably won't finish by deadline.
     
  17. Miner

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    I got there because if he's holy he'll be saved by Angels and the entire plan gets fucked.

    Fable should always be the Hunter shot.
     
  18. Beruru

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    First Post-Claim Votal

    citrus (1): miner (#3346)
    owner (2): his fluffiness (#3174), kaiDASH (#3316)
    dichotomousCreator (2): jarizok (#3322), fable (#3363)
    fable (2): weiyaoli (#3327), citrus (#3355)
    jarizok (4): dichotomousCreator (#2918), owner (#3102), newcomb (#3106), vaimes (#3172)

    Abstaining (2): beruru (#2756), silvercrys (#3407)

    7 for slow, 10 for fast.

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    Hm.

    ...

    First Post-Claim Votal With Beru's Reads

    citrus (1): miner (#3346)
    owner (2): his fluffiness (#3174), kaiDASH (#3316)
    dichotomousCreator (2): jarizok (#3322), fable (#3363)
    fable (2): weiyaoli (#3327), citrus (#3355)
    jarizok (4): dichotomousCreator (#2918), owner (#3102), newcomb (#3106), vaimes (#3172)

    Abstaining (2): beruru (#2756), silvercrys (#3407)

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    Town
    If Witch, probably has to be Junior but I doubt it
    If Witch, probably has to be Junior
    Witch (any)

    *eats one (1) popcorn.*

    This is one hell of a votal.

    Kai, why haven't you moved your vote? You've been around...

    Fable - if you are town Zealot, your job is literally only to survive until Halftime. That is when the world you live in becomes mechanically clear to you. Whining won't stop you from getting lynched. Playing... will.

    BTW, what happens to you when you rand VT? Do you replace out because you don't have any mechanical knowledge?
     
  19. dichotomousCreator

    dichotomousCreator Second Year

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    Okay so I'm kinda weirded out that like

    Citrus was run up D2 for D1 stuff, and now suddenly people are townreading him for D1 stuff (specifically, the way tom acted around him)

    Like. Silver gets a pass b/c he wasn't here on D2 and didn't do the former thing, but I'm not sure where everyone else gets off.

    I mean to be fair my Citrus read has lightened over time but it was in SPITE of D1, not because of it. Still think weiy/fluff/Beru are town so I'm kinda running out of room in the town closet when Owner/Newcomb are added, and- actually forget it here's a readlist

    Town (dC, dyachei, Rubicon, Owner, Newcomb)
    fluffiness
    Beruru
    weiyaoli
    Barely Above Null
    Silvercrys3467
    Null+
    Miner
    KaiDASH
    Null/Uncategorized ()
    Vaimes
    Null-
    Barely Below Null
    Citrus
    Barely Below Barely Below Null
    Fable
    Jarizok
    Scum (tom)

    ??? (mallorean_thug)

    So yeah unless scum is exactly tom/mal/Jari/Fable/Citrus I think I'm fucking something up here (I have Vaimes at null- but that's still, like, 70% town by the odds). I...don't know if that's enough to make me want to drastically change course when combined with the fact that the day has kinda stalled out. I guess not? Like, scummy people are still scummy.

    Wait is deadline not in an hour? I thought deadline was in an hour...
     
  20. Beruru

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    Thankfully, we still have 24 hours or I would be screaming louder than I already am.
     
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