As nonjon said, a lot of the members join because they want to comb through our library for good fics. They read them, they know them, and when the awards come around, they come out to vote on them.

So perhaps the thing isn't just amending the rules for the awards, but for joing DLP. Stick that shit in there with the site rules when they register: Every year, we hold a contest for the best fics in the DLP library. If you expect to vote in the contest this year, be aware that you must by that time have accumilated this many posts and this many rep points...

If they join right before the awards and don't get enough posts/points, they don't get to vote--they'll have to wait till next year. And saying so up front as a rule for joining the site seems fair enough to me.

 

It's that sort of thing I'm not a fan of. It encourages either railing/flaming on the right people (which is the easiest way to get REP often), or in general posting useless things just to get their numbers higher. We don't want to encourage more useless posting.

Not to mention all these rules we're randomly arguing about (it'll be decided by the admins if there are *any* changes, a long time from now I suspect) won't ever be an issue for another 11 months. By putting in more stipulations it only adds to the work someone (probably Raven) will have to do. And popular opinion on how we want to see the awards done could change before the next award season.

Some people want more exclusivity on who's "allowed" to vote. I'm against it, but don't care that strongly. Either way though, it's like we're arguing about how we should ring in the new year in early February. A lot can change between now and whenever next year's award season rolls around. I think this discussion will be better served in November or December.

 

Thanks for the advertising faggot, I love seeing my fans giving me free promotion.

And for the record, I got more negatives reps than anyone on this site, and even with all those I still have 94 rep points and a rep power of 4.

 

I realize that; I was just putting it out there. There's no harm in that, surely.

 

Ah considering I keep hearing complaints about his cock like attitude, I wouldn't call him a prominent member, and he's lucky the folks hadn't neg repped him beforehand.

Anyone caught doing that would be delt with.

As for rep points. They mean shit. All it takes it one or two reps from a person that's been here awhile, and suddenly you've got a bit, even if you're a douche, b/c someone liked one post you made.

Thats odd, because to many folks, granted most irc folks, and myself included, that screams screwed up. Hell anyone could get even a decent story to win first place if they spammed for folks to come in and they dont even have to be a useful member, just register and skew the votes. but we get it, you and jbern, and hell anyone that won, think the system was great. Great. Quite alot are flat out asking me if it was honest voting or if DLP is sucking off authors. Thats why folks are asking questions and trying to make it abit more foolproof.

Yeah sorry about that, I fixed that.


Taure you got smacked for the flamebaiting. Illusive's been acting like a cock, but you dont need to damned troll for attitude.

 

Intelligence and decision making capabilities have nothing do with voting; community effort has been my main point for the entire duration of this thread. You can't have contributed to this community much if you have less than 20 posts to your account, sorry.

I'm sorry you didn't pick up on that Taure.

 

remember the quote button Bio, I almost dropbeared you!

 

I must unfortunately disagree with the points being made. The only time I poist is if I feel it to be needed. most of the time the stories are not worth my time to read let alone to review and post about them. I make posts where I deem it needed or if I happen to need to such as in this post or in the gaming section. However, I am still able to look at the stories others have nominated and vote which are better and in some cases vote for the one that sucks the least. There are others like who do. I agree that a post requirement should be made but, making it high will only encourage idiots to make random posts to increase their count to be able to vote. Putting it at, let's say 25, is high enough to discourage those whom do not wish to be a part of the community, yet low enough not to discriminate against the people who do not wish to review/post replies to the various inane things that have come up on this site.

 

Those various inane things that have come up on this site are what makes this site a community; why are you here if you feel they're beneath you or that you need to have divine providence before deciding which post needs your grace's presence?

That's not the point of these "points" being made - it's not intelligence, it's not your capabilities, your demeanor or the size of your wang. It's pure and simple community participation. I want these to be community awards, not some random popularity contest that goes without even a few precautions.

If you post here often enough, you make this community. You thus decide the awards. If you don't post here, don't give anything to this site, I don't care what you think. Like now - I don't care what you think because I didn't even know you existed. What have you done for DLP except take up bandwidth without even joining in on the discussion?

Nothing.

 

While I got you here, why the 2 accounts? Do you need the other merged or did you forget the pass?

 

| 11 | January 2007 |
| 22 | December 2006 |

EQUALS 33!!!!
COINCIDENCE??!?!

2/3 = .666

THE NUMBER OF THE DEVIL.

 

Did you see that 23 movie preview? Cause that 2/3 = .666 is making me think of it.

And in the hope of staying on topic, I don't really care either way about the voting or the awards. They are just stories, and merely meant to be enjoyed.

 

Contempt, did you read this?

If you don't care about the awards, then don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out of this thread.

 

Awards are a mark of pride for a fanfiction writer, and are but a reflection of an opinion of voting community. After all, that's all a vote is, an opinion. As the voting this year was dominated by those of a newer wave, theirs is the opinion that is reflected.

Yet, looking at the numbers of those who voted, and their join dates, it seems to me that those who were new cared more about voting then the elder members. 33% or so, was that the statistic?

If that is the case, who should we be blaming? The structure, or the community? It seems to me that many people here are blaming the institution, rather than asking why many people who have been here longer didn't vote as much.

Fo god's sake, we have more than two thousand five hundred members, and this is the greatest number of people that voted?

In fact k_writer, your right. I don't care much about the bitching and moaning older generation who are trying to get the results they wanted by skewing the voting process, rather than getting more the community involved. And I understand the arguements involved in having only those with more posts and active in the community vote, but in fact, that doesn't much matter to me.

These awards are a measure of opinion, and some of my opinion was reflected in the awards, but most of it wasn't. I not crying about it. Those who actually cared to vote did, and it shows.

 

Keep in mind a great deal of those are dead ends, duplicate accounts, probably 20 banned folks. I'm too busy atm to see how many have actually logged in within the past 2 months, but I know of maybe a dozen off the top that only log in every few months and read the posts en masse, resulting in alot of necroposting bitching, lol.


Edit:

Also ALL OF YOU, stop the damn bickering at each other and sniping insults. There's folks who think some fangirls/boys/cockriders skewed the votes, there's others who think the voting was 100% fair. End result is, there wasn't any strict rules, so pretty much even "The Office" could've been nominated as one shot of the year and won if enough folks felt like messing with the votes. Did it make these awards meaningless? Yeah in my opinion, but it's not worth the continued arguing, so either er.. argue politely or knock it off.

 

If you're very active on IRC but don't have a high post count then you could be said to have have contributed to the community e.g. Rain, Rob etc.

These people are quite rare though.

Anyway, I hadn't come back to this thread for a while, then someone on IRC mentioned my rep was gone...that was a little surprise. Oops. Well, sorry for the flamebaiting, I guess I'm not levelheaded when it comes (or came rather) to TIO.