Oooh ... Gemma votes koalas right after I get weird feelings about him.

Feelsgoodman?

 

Mmm. Have been having weird feelings since I reread him just haven't really done anything about it.

 

Does Scum!Beru randomly push a world where the two people with 0 posts are scum?

It is a weird alley to push for anyone that you know has close to no chance to succeed this early on.

I guess that is her attempt at memeing which is what she was accused not to do after saying that she hasn't left the "memezone" yet?!


Meh ... not as good as I thought initially, but too lazy to delete. Maybe others have input to make it clearer.
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Nooo .. I said her and not their and can't edit it now.

Apologies.

And she, god damn me ... look I am distracted by 2 handsome men in discord talking about european history and fantasy books.
It is really hard to stay on track like this.
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I kind of like dC for bad reasons.

Dislike Koalas for good reasons.

And I think Fonti is in her scumrange.

Will read more right after this league game!

 

(reposting to fix a typo mmm)


Here is my headspace Reg. Am not going back to look at thread or ISO's so keep that in mind.

Spoiler

Think Waco's thread presence has been pretty inconsistent and maladjusted; it's been mostly pop-ins and I don't think the way his thoughts have progressed makes very much sense at all. My first vote on him page one was actually a serious vote, felt the way that he came in and dropped an RVS vote then peaced, then came back later again for just a moment, no real investment in the process there made more sense with him being mafia.

Don't think his read on me is very reasonable but I don't think it's impossible or even super unrealistic for him to be town having the read he is. It's the nuances of the read that I think are worse than the read itself; it progressed weirdly and the way it's continued with him not really doing anything hasn't been pretty. That said, think there's a very plausible explanation there in him just being very disengaged as town, not really reevaluating, suffering from a bunch of confirmation bias and tunneling badly off it. Think there are a few indicators that actually point to his read on me being something he's actually thinking through even if poorly and think that if he were mafia here he would probably be putting more effort into what he's doing rather than just completely slanking in the way that he is.

My read here might be muddied by ~site meta~ since that's not something I'm familiar with and it's possible that not really caring is something that just comes from mafia here rather than being more null or even vaguely town indicative; if he's mafia unless he's with someone like Jan/fonti he probably sees the game as unwinnable so that might factor into things? Really unsure on that aspect of the read, could also just be playstyle / real life / circumstance factoring into things?


What I liked from Koalas at the time I told fonti he might be town was his poke at you for not giving him towncred or something and his posting around that; I didn't really /love/ anything he said but was ok with what he was posting, he was giving thoughts in a way that felt natural and tbh I think I was mostly happy that he was doing /anything/ at that point since I've felt really frustrated here that the slots I'm looking at lynching here are exactly the slots that I looked at pre-game that mafia would need to mislynch to win since over half the playerlist isn't really mislynchable. I liked Koalas' opening at the time that happened as well mostly because he was more "engaged" and hanging around.

When I went back over it all though earlier today I just, don't really get what he's doing. I don't think his opening is anything, he doesn't produce any real content until his second pop-in and I actually dislike a fair few of his posts, the thing of it just being as easy as dC/Beru and stuff around that, his manner there feels almost purposefully ambiguous in terms of whether he's serious or joking and think there's some fairly obvious mafia motivation there if he's voting Beru wanting no consquences, can say "lol was joke" or "yeah actually" later and get away with either. The attitude also just generally prevents the game from progressing if no one's actually stating Serious Reads.

That take is kind of supported by how he enters thread next? It's not until then that he's explicitly serious and complains about thread having gotten serious. Still doesn't seem to take anything very seriously and the way he's commenting on stuff + the things he's commenting on all feel very irrelevant and don't understand what he's actually doing in the thread there if he's town or how it's helping him solve the game.

Also his interactions with fonti are weird as fuck and his Beru read is ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


I don't really get why you're not townreading Vaimes but I don't actually have any meta experience with him? He just feels... alive here and I don't think he would be alive at all in this game almost regardless of who his partner is. Bunch of his thoughts feel really genuine and unnecessary and I don't feel like Vaimes is the type of player to just put out ~unnecessary thoughts~ as mafia. Maybe I'm overestimating how bad he is as mafia but from what I've heard he's kind of a dead fish as the alignment? I've actually liked his posts by their own right and think I'd be townreading him to some degree here even if I didn't know anything about his meta.


As far as dC is concerned I just... don't understand at all what he's doing or has done. He's a complete question mark for me and I don't understand his issue with activity. It's presumably a RL thing so fine? But feel like his thing of "ugh the thought of coming into thread makes me groan, reading along know what I should do but unable to perform" makes more sense coming from mafia? Idk what level to read him on though, and the actual way he went about saying that didn't feel like frozen mafia in any particular way so am not really inclined to give it credence. Don't have any real issues with the slot's actual content which... leaves the slot at just confused null for me.


My thoughts on Jan haven't really changed much from where I was at wrt "probably tunnels on me differently as mafia"; think his play has been bad but not necessarily wolfy? Was kind of noting to myself that if he was still scumreading me at a certain point he's probably just mafia but think there are also ~things~ not related to this game that make it actually likely for him to just loltunnel me as town, so I'm kind of meh about it. Feel like his weird focus on Waco maybe happens a little differently if he's mafia but that's not a strong point.


Beru is a mess and I've talked enough about them already, think we're in sync on this read.


Don't understand fonti, don't understand why she moves her vote off Beru on Waco, her tunnel on Beru didn't feel town motivated, didn't feel like she was trying to read Beru, was just throwing a ton of shade on them + dC and felt like she was throwing a lot of chaos in a very intentional way which I think is obviously something that carries a bunch of scum motivation. Don't understand how her Beru read has progressed at all and her thread presence outside of that has been... really empty. Tbh even that push has been pretty empty.

Like there are worlds here where the above makes a ton of sense with her being town but there are certain things I'll need to see to believe in those worlds. And if I don't see them then I'm probably going to be left very confused, unless she does other things that outweigh all that to the point I can forget about it.

Makes it even more difficult to parse those early pushes because I think it's possible that she's playing differently with me here, don't know how that would affect her exactly but it's something I'm kind of thinking about. I know she's behaved erratically before knowing I'm her audience so that's a thing.

I could probably talk for pages about my fonti read but I really need to not do that. I want her to be town very badly and I want to stop being stupid if we're in that world and that's coloring things a bunch. Need help.

And. Meh. Don't get her read on me at all.


Your response to my paranoia was Good.

 

I will say that brave is one of the most underrated disney movies in terms of story and strong female lead.

Might have the best motivation for a female lead in all disney movies. Maybe?

Princess and the frog is #2 of the most underrated disney movies.
Just has a few of the best songs and a lot of fun.

I think Braves downfall are the artstyle and that there is no real go to song (for me) that makes the movie peak.

I have to watch Brave again. Maybe tonight.
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Oh and Brave is technically a Pixar movie.

Still part of disney these days, but they are better at stories at Pixar (most of the time).
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Gemma seems to einther not really read things on page 2 or just has a 100% different understanding of the context than I do.

Examples in the spoiler :

Spoiler: Fonti + Bears .. and Gemma?

1.

I removed some parts, but this is the obvious interaction between bears and fonti.
And Gemmas response makes 0 sense to me.
Neither as joke nor as being serious.

Unless she thinks bears is town at the time and is defending her. But she has not talked about bears in that way.

This one has a lot of quotes. Mainly to show their progression and to save the time to look it up.
Only comments by me are at the very bottom.

Spoiler: Gemma vs Waco

Spoiler: The quote that Waco was referring to in context

I like that Waco finds something that doesn't fit with what Gemma did before and looks further from there.
The additional point he makes is something I had mentioned at the time, which makes it less important to me.

The important part for me comes later on (i bolded it).
I have trouble believing anyone does not see wacos progression here.

Gemma can say that her post was more a jab/joke, but I just can't see someone not understanding wacos thoughts who are all out there.
He says that her progression so far on Koalas makes no sense for someone that has a townread on koalas at the time.
And he has evidence for it that he quotes.


Plus I don't think it was a joke by Von. Did he exaggerate? Well yes it is von. He does that quite a lot.
I can see her not getting that, because she doesn't know Von as well.

Gemmas read on Waco near the end there feels really omgus-y without wanting to say it out loud.
The -10% part bellow null is odd phrasing, but that might just be a Gemma thing.

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Dear Bears,
You are the 2nd person saying Waco sounds off early on. I don't see it, but I can be tone deaf sometimes.

More important is the bolded part.

What are were you referring to with it?
What are the things that Waco was talking about that don't exist?
And why do you think it makes him scum?
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Page 2 done.

Break time.

Vaimes will hate me already. And I am pretty sure it is only because no one is here to split up my posts!

 

Gemma already asked me about that and I already answered it. Ok hand emoji.

 

Found your explanation .. and I am not sure I like any of it?

Spoiler: Sooo post 12-14 in Wacos iso are :

Fits well with your description of their content, so there should be no accidental fuckup.

He rememebered Gemmas progression on Koalas voted her and then grabbed a quote by her as reasoning?
What is weird about that?
What about it makes you think it is scummy?
I think it might be one of the towniest things that happened at that point in the game, because it shows that he cared enough to read a small thing and remember the bigger picture, when most of said picture was loose fluffrelated fun.

So yeah .. If you can explain why you think that is more likely scum, please do.

The 2nd part about Gemma not explaining a thing when she had can only refer to this, I think.

Soo - you think him saying that Gemma has not explained her own reads at the time is scummy?
Link to me a post by Gemma explaining her own reads before Waco made that post.

She explains intentions for questions when asked, but she does not say or explain a single read there.

I don't see it and this feels like you are trying to jump on a wagon and/or forming one there.

Vote Berururururu

 

Hi.

Koalas wagon is eh in a vacuum, kind of squinty eye-y on D1.

Who's here to entertain me.
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Boy, our mods sure are slacking re: votals.

I want to see if the beruru wagon is all <town reads.
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eh, probably not because I know Reg and Gemma are on Koalas now

mehhhh

also there's literally been no votals unless Miner snuck one in somewhere, but I doubt it because he's bad
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Did you guys know I once townread someone for their /confirm post and was right?

I'm like. Kind of ready to try that again.
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Yeah I changed my mind I don't want to make a votal.

Has dC not posted recently? I've been skimming here and there all day and don't recall seeing any :V faces.
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also I see people going "need to see Vaimes interact :/ :/ :/" but y'all wanna vanish as soon as I arrive

 

Votal 2.1.

Beruru (4): dC, Koalas, Vaimes, Jan
Waco (2): Beru, Font
Kalas (2): Reg, Gemma
Gemma (1): Waco

 

A gift from the gods.
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hmmmmmm

opens dC ISO

 

Vooon!
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Sorry I was in a game of legends after watching an inspiring tale about bravery.

What do you want to talk about?

The game our stories from russia?
I am interested in either.
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Or - not our. Look my brain can only do so much. Proper english is not part of the deal.

 

Jan!

You're a person.

 

Well. Let's go not too far with the compliments.

 

I mean I imagine I should do more game-related things instead of being a lazy butt and waiting to get shot

>_>

<_<

I guess you can try and make me read something.

 

Why open the dC iso?

He has 0 votes right now?
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Meh .. I don't read you of game related things.

I should try that once.

 

It's not that, he's the Least Townread of mine on the beruru wagon and it's a brick road to skip on

 

Meh I really need to either reread before posting or don't just speedtype without a filter.

So many really stupid mistakes that make me feel bad and no edit function that I am allowed to use.

 

also I'm assuming that scum don't vote for their partners to completion D1 in a two scum setup until someone inevitably breaks that very reasonable line of play, sooo

safely ruling that out

 

Ooohhh - you townread me? Like really really townread me?

I am proud of you.
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That really depends on the team and mentality.

If Reg is scum then he is almost always with Koalas here.
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May I risk asking you why you are townreading me?

You are normally put me somewhere between no idea and poe or at least that is how it feels to me.

 

is there a distinction between townreading someone and being okay with a font feeling and letting it flourish?

(i mean to say fond feeling but i thought the typo was funny so i'm leaving it)

Yeah if Koalas actually does flip scum and Reg does the whole "but I lynched hiiiiiiim" song and dance I won't even be shocked