I'm not particularly good at self-examination, tbh.

Doubt there's anything with bears. My memory of interacting with them is more or less "background townread". As for Jan...that bit at the start of D2 where we argue over whether your anti-aligns are a good piece of work or not, maybe? I quoted that stuff earlier, although only Jan's side. I'm pretty sure we had each other sitting in PoE for most of the game too, which in principle is game losing if we're both scum.

Also this:

as well as #1180 a bit after it.
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Also beru's read on me was ALSO more or less "metatown so let's not think about it any more", which is unhelpful on that front.

 

No, dC.

I mean...

In that world, Fonti wouldn't have a regular NK.

The potion would be a delayed NK.....

.....

Ugh.

As much as I actually want and believe and hope that Fonti is a wolf with my entire heart,

I ruled out dC/Fonti pretty early on, and you guys doing this kind of performance in thread would be amazing and I commend you tbh.

Still don't think that Fonti/Jan fight would have happened if they were both scum together, so that can be ruled out.

So the only thing left is... Fonti/Vaimes?

All Vaimes worlds are possible, tbh. Fonti could have just like, not........ given Vaimes the potion and elected to use the regular NK the next night. This is why I didn't want Fonti to post first - I wanted to see if Fonti actually gave a potion to someone, and if they would claim it.

It's definitely plausible, and congrats on Fonti for carrying this entire game if it's true lmao.

As for other people...

Want to rule out dC because I haven't seen him do this level of solving as mafia literally ever, and if he is, then also congrats on extremely leveling up your scumgame bro. Like, this is a higher level of effort on both D2 and D3 than I think you'd do as mafia.

So.....

It's just Jan/Vaimes, then? Still haven't had the time to reread and figure this out. Really wish that DLP had multi iso right now.

 

(also also rereading that Jan post it has a sort of scum bitterness tinge to it. Like, "fucking townies buddying each other, goddammit")

 

I mean, Jan is spiteful enough to say that about a partner.

Will read more when I get off and hopefully find something.

Meanwhile, I, a bear, am town and think fonti is scum because __ and think she is with __ because __.
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Ooh, shiny.

 

I actually have done this level of solving as scum, but the first/last/only time I did was FTL b/c I was super motivated by it being my first scumgame. Closest otherwise was Winefia, which doesn't count because lolwinefia.

And that delayed NK theory doesn't really work b/c both NKs happened on schedule and more importantly why would scum ever use it with a regular NK available? If the delayed kill exists it hasn't been used for some reason (unless omae_wa_mou_shindeiru.mp4) and the only reasons I can think of are:
- Scum don't know which drink it is (terrible design)
- It replaces the regular NK and so should never be used (terrible design)
- Scum used it on Gemma and regular killed her (terrible play)

Like. Can you explain in clear terms exactly how this delayed NK is supposed to exist in a way that doesn't make the setup stupid?

 

First:

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Wow.
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Also, the recipient of the drink has to choose to drink it. It's not like I can make it happen.

 

...oh god, you're right, Gemma confirmed that.

yeah there's zero chance this replaces the NK, and anti-KP arguments work against all other possibilities.

 

I have to decide what to do with my two remaining drinks actually (it's randomized if I don't choose). Thinking of giving the toxic sounding one to my top town outside of Von and instructing them to notdrink it?

 

Oh, I see.

I didn't know they had a choice.

I guess.... that's okay.................................

.......................

ok.

So it's just Jan/Vaimes and their only mislynch is me. This is fine.

GL, boys.

I should have remembered my commitment to lynch Jan on D1 yesterday instead of just letting the Fluff thing happen because I was otherwise occupied/tilted/having An Emotion/idk and then we wouldn't be in this situation fml.

Day end is in.... 50 hours???? Right? Is that right.

Ok.

I'll be spotty for the next ~four but then we can do this.

It's ok.

Everything is going to be ok.

Yup yup yup yup yup.

 

When Jan gets back, he should really look at bears/dC.

 

He doesn't really have a choice.

 

Vote Count 3.1

[5] Not Voting ~ Beruru, dC, fontisian (#1744), Jan (#1748), Vaimes

With five alive, it’s three votes to soft-lynch and four votes to hard-lynch!

Day ends on February 8 at 7pm PST!

 

Hi Delphine o/

 

We should try for a hammer today to avoid the risk of scum unvoting at deadline, which means we need to figure this out while Von is awake. Does a deadline of 5 or 6pm eat work for everyone?

 

Wat.
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Oh, you mean like, game day.

It's like almost 9pm anyway right lolme.

Does it actually have to be different from the regular deadline?

 

4 votes is hammer, 3 votes is a soft lunch. If a scum is at soft lynch but not hammered and the person not voting them is town, the scum voting them can just rescind and cause a no lynch, winning the game. We're not going to let that happen.
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If Von is going to around, yes. The deadline is at 6am his time.

 

;-; Rip Vaimes............. and Jan too lol I guess.
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If we moved it back to where you're suggesting, that would be 2 or 3 pm my time.

...

I can't do that.

I have class from 1-4 pm, and I have to do a presentation.

Currently..... missing FS day extension rules.

 

Ugh. If we go earlier we start running into an issue with dC's time zone. Does 3:30 est work?
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Or we could ask Von to stay up until 3am.

 

Well, if we settle early we can just be like "everyone pile on over the next 24 hrs" and assume anyone who doesn't is the scum's buddy, then still have time left in the day to reach softlynch with the other three people.

I don't want to count on settling early, though, and I'm bad at timing shit. I'm at GMT +11 due to DST at the moment I think? It's 1PM here.

 

Settling early feels like it could go very wrong.