Great Spring Sickness killed tens of thousands in Westeros. Black Death killed aproximetly 30% to 60% of total Europe population and reduced world population from 450 million to 350 million. That's the scale I'm talking about. Kill 50% of Westeros population and change will come.

 

what about various alcoholic beverage ?

 

That’s easy, comparatively, but it won’t taste like anything you know, but it will be a whiskey/vodka/whatever. It’s also vanishingly unlikely they don’t already have hard alcohols.

 

The TL;DR for all answers of this sort can be summarized as "You are not special, and they are not idiots". If you, as an untrained layman, can do something with the tools available in the setting, the other people in the setting have already thought of it and are doing it, or are not doing it because it's not possible.

There's a handful of exceptions, such as introducing bacterial theory, but at the same time, things such as that, which requires more highly advanced knowledge and technology to perceive in the first place, are impossible to prove without said highly advanced knowledge and technology, so you'd just get laughed out of the room by the scholars of the day (see: exactly what happened for the first like 90 years after the idea of germs was first introduced into academia).

You could maybe pull a John Snow and the like, and assuming you could somehow garner the social pull to get people to listen to you (far from a guarantee), it would probably help in a small, localized area, but you're not going to be able to gainsay the larger society, who would tell you to sit down and shut up for your whole life.

 

So really, the best thing would be for your SI to figure out how to become an evil Johnny Appleseed and spread the plague instead of fruit.

 

We have rum mentioned explicitly and vague mentions of "liquors". I have no idea why people focus so hard on alcohol production.

 

Forget using medieval tech to make something from modern day. Try to make a modern piece of technology without any infrastructure in our current era. It's almost impossible.

As this guy found out: https://www.geek.com/geek-pick/nine...-in-a-book-toaster-like-monstrosties-1424175/

TLDR: he spends thousand of dollars trying to make a cheap, $10 toaster by hand, without utilizing any pre-manufactured parts. And he fails.

There's an older, famous 1950s economics essay called "I, Pencil" by Leonard Reed that basically is about the same thing. Our modern world, and modern technology, is based on a very complex relationship of trade relationship, specialized knowledge, and specialized labor/production.

 

So any ya know fics?

 

There is this:Whales and Unicorns A Skagosi SI


It looks to be heading in a interesting direction.

Sort of relatable to the discussion as It's the SI trying to enact a relatively minor and localised uplift, and the struggle to actually do it is a significant driving force behind the plot.

 

Not sure if it appeared in this thread before but High Plains Robert is one of the more decent SIs. Dude doesn't try to introduce modern tech, just to survive Cersei and the rest of her brood. The fic is weird though. At some point, the amount of unexplainable dialogue and actions goes over the top. Still, very enjoyable.

 

Well the first chapter is starting at a point where he had seemingly succeeded and made Skagos Great Again For The First Time, so dunno about struggle with the uplift part per se, but it has been relatively entertaining so far. The first chapter led me to believe that there wouldn't be any significant changes, however things derail rather organically at some point, in an interesting manner.

Not ready to say this is a good story yet but the writing is solid and what there is, is interesting. The protag himself ....has room for improvement and I am not sure how much I like him but meh. There certainly are worse SI fics for ASOIAF.

 

It's very interesting. Mostly as a set of events. I think the butterflies are strong and I like the overall divergence. It's one of the better AltHistory forum stories.

 

LIVE Porn (for the mouth breather below me who copy&pasted the definition of porn) or HIV. I was gonna say dildos, but they probably already have those.

Holy shit Odran, you have no idea how this makes me feel. I think I just jizzed a little.

 

Pornography:
Porne: Prostitue, Graphy: writing or drawing.
Literally pictures or writing about prostitutes
They got porn already.
HIV: that is difficult, but other sex transmit disease are probably exists.

HPRobert introduced BDSM to Cersei is that counting ?

 

I call shenanigans on "HP" Robert. I've read up to chapter 9. So far, it's pretty bad. But I digress:

1. Why does it take him so long to eat a woman to orgasm? He's fucking trash, that shit barely takes minutes.
2. How do you eat a vagina and LOSE your erection?! Is he queer? I NEED ANSWERS SWAY this SI isn't realistic enough bro.
3. How are you going to eat incestuous pussy? That's fucking gross bro. You shouldn't even put your dick in there. Cersei is strictly for anal only.

 

I dig it so far. It`s far from perfect, and there are cringe worthy moment

Spoiler

"What do you want?" moment with Lyanna and the whole debacle of the Laughing Knight feels awfully force to create a different timeline

but the premise and the uplift idea is original enough that I'll stick with it for now.

 

I don't know,

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Lyanna dying seems far more plausible in a setting like ASOIAF than beating all 3 of her opponents unscathed. Though I am wondering what exactly did she make Brandon promise her. Not to kill Benjen?

 

I remember this one fic but can't remember what it was called. All I can remember is one scene with Jon in Dorne and the Golden Company was attacking. They fought them for a whole and some elephants were there. At the end of the fight Viserys was there as the pretender to the throne and he retreats but Jon and Jaime gave chase and caught up with him. Jaime and Viserys both die. And that's all I remember.

Anyone know it?

 

http://archiveofourown.org/works/2854958/chapters/6399425

I think this is it. Jon is a prince. Rhaegar is King. Robert invades Westeros with the Golden Company.

 

Nope it's https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11772798/1/The-Lords-of-Winter
Chapter 26, careful this fic is terrible. The relevant chapter especially. edit: But not nearly as bad, as the crap Spanks linked. <3

edit3: WARNING! Forgot to mention, this fic also full of awkward sex scenes.

Spoiler

He gloates go Viserys about his parentage and "has" to kill Jamie because he heard, lol.

edit2: Generally, this is definition of guilty pleasure with a lot of very bad writing. Mostly just Jon-Beats everything wank, but it get's really weird near the end. The author seemed also confused about where he wanted to take the story, there was something really silly with two different chapters posted, with the author info 'which one do you think happenend???*giggle*'... Later on Jon getting crippled only to be fixed with Qyburn blackmagic etc.