You know, Cobalt, I've definitely given you a bit of shit this game, but that reads list is startlingly close to where I'm at. Maybe not exactly in terms of position, but in terms of how you're thinking about the game at the moment.

Just for that, I'm not even gonna bother doing the whole fake redcheck on you thing :v

 

Is that your only comment?

I thought it was Jan because he was insulting my intelligence the whole game. My bad.
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LMFAO.

I mean, you gave me shit because the priest was my top scumread. It's understandable. Gamestate is different now.

Are you gonna post your actual check now cuz that was what you were waiting on?

 

Vaimes seems pretty town to me, but that is mostly day 1. Not sure why an outed buddy would make it harder to post? Seems like one less thing to worry about if anything that's easy

 

Not harder to post so much as demotivating.

 

Nah I'm gonna hold it for a bit. Think it's worthwhile to do so toDay since there's no "if silence, X is greenchecked".

Witches ~maybe know it already, depending on a few things, notably if Oracle is still alive / who they checked last night, but even if they know who was checked, villagers don't, and that's one more point of potential TMI.

Will probably drop it about halfway through the Day.
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Gonna echo this; Vaimes definitely has motivation problems as a wolf, and there's a force multiplier if his team isn't doing great.

 

Solid. Looking forward to it.

 

1-Because it was a topic of conversation. At least one of the posts you quoted was me arguing that it wasn't you and shadow so I already know you didn't look for context so... That.
And, as I just said, everyone else in the light town tier was really townie yesterday.

2-i don't really understand this question

 

On top of that, how do you feel wrt Vaimes potentially getting rid of Jan and Fonti early because they're the biggest threats to his game? Especially if he lost a buddy D2, would he go for that Font shot to make sure she didn't figure him out?

 

Yeah no really, the first one you posted (and the first quoted) said that, and then you backpedalled away from it.

 

(Not gonna lie im getting close to understanding this setup but I still have no idea how angels/demons work but in theory witches had to dodge angels and newc had to dodge demons and something or other idk maybe they really thought they knew he was gonna check fonti I'm really not tryna get anything from the nightkill not sure how many ways I have to say that)

 

It is pretty likely witches were worried about angels and also believed he would check Fonti because of his planted line to make them think that, so they tried to render his check useless but in reality they got played and we have another check to work with.

lolwitches
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It was probably just to buy time until Shadow could death curse so that they can kill him toNight.

 

Fair enough.
The only time I've caught him was a microread version where he was having to psyche himself up to post instead of just overflowing and when he was here yesterday he seemed reasonably free but a more "overall" view it's probably worse.
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Sure whatever.
So why'd I say it in the first place?

 

It's a possibility, especially if he think's him & his partner could dodge the check. I've generally found the Scum!Vaimes gets much easier to find the deeper into games he goes, so getting rid of those familiar with that might work.
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I could see Shadow/Vaimes a bit looking at this post. He softly meta defends Shadow after I asked Vaimes about him, but does so without taking a side in Me vs shadow, and then underneath is him pushing back against Newcomb's push on Shadow.

 

Like, waco.

You're saying my response to a buddy being redchecked is to say a townie isn't scum with him and immediately started walking it back.
And it's scummy because it progressed steadily with the conversation instead of appearing suddenly.
When the whole day was basically talking about who is scum with shadow.

Lol?

 

Cliff notes:

Angels/Demons are a thing in WitchHunt, not TinyHunt. They have their own chats, plus a Dead Chat that they share, and observe all night actions (so they know the team N1, know who the Priest/Gravedigger are, know the checks.

Angels get to protect one player, Demons get to Haunt two players. (ignoring the one shots abilities, this is cliff notes). Angel save protects against NK only, Demon Haunt has two effects: If a Haunted player is Priest checked, they get the results of the other Haunted player instead. Also, if Angels save someone who's Haunted, that player can't ever be saved again.

In TinyHunt, there are some key differences. One, there's just one general Deadchat, both town and mafia are "Angels." Two, dead chat doesn't observe Night Actions. All they get is the result of Priest checks, not even who the Priest is and definitely not the witch team.

They do get a protect, but they have to vote on it. It both saves from the NK and /also/ from the VIg. Wolves can vote too, and can vote-stall against any protect at all if they outnumber or equal dead town. The save stops working at 4 alive. If a dead witch uses Death Curse (day activation, so you can't use it the Day you're lynched as a wolf, i.e. shadow couldn't have used Death Curse D2 since he wasn't dead until after the day ended), it cancels the protect (although the protect still counts as a "target" for the Oracle!), and they can no longer vote (are also essentially "outed" to deadchat, since their votes won't be counted for the save).

That's basically it.

Key difference is the "no difference between Angels/Demons" thing. That's a WItchHunt mechanic.

Priest checks in TH are 100% reliable, there's no messing with them.

Witches also only have to dodge angels if they both a) know that dead villagers outnumber dead wolves and b), don't have a dead witch who used Death Curse the day before (although they do have to set this up beforehand).
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Oh, also, notably, soup pierces Angel protect and is 100% effective - if you guess the right role they die no matter what, like it'll even kill Odd-Gambler on N3 or something.

 

Yeah, because after you post this at EoD1

You couldn't come out and call me blatant scum start of D2. Which isn't to say you didn't try considering you "extrapolated" Jan's final reads to say I "could've" been under pressure D2, you sorta did. Of course after the check on Shadow came in, you had to go at it more slowly.

 

Huh I was remembering a lot of bighunt mechanics.
That's actually less confusing than I thought.
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I...
What?

I couldn't call you scum because I called you the least scummy person on a scummy wagon? I don't know what the wagon was when I posted that but... nah bro.

And if I was scum wouldn't I have known the redcheck was coming?

I read jans posts and shared his reads. Period.

And I'm still not calling you blatant scum even though you're giving me the opportunity of a really awful push on me right now.

If you're town I genuinely don't know what you're on about rn
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Just a random thought but I feel like I'm winning (or at least looking better in) all my arguments and that's usually a scumtell for me because as town I just bumble in whereas as scum I make sure I can win them or leave myself an out or whatever but it's just sort of working out for me this game.

Idk maybe I'm wrong but I feel like I'm the reasonable one vs waco and DC rn
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Tfw when you've been drinking and you automerge with something from before you left home
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Anyway there's a part of me that wants to be all "dc and waco decided last night they needed to lynch me. Asmo is town" but then a bigger part is like "they would know people would just start suspecting me eventually anyway and why bother" and then a third part like "Yolo it's time to CC Newcomb with your redcheck on gemma"

 

...okay, this makes a little more sense.

I'm just gonna inform you that there's no Priest check inaccuracy in this setup, other information in this post is incorrect, and let you puzzle out the rest in case the reason for the NK is the scumteam haven't done it yet either :v
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oh never mind Newcomb said it anyway

yeah the main anomaly is that Newcomb could have been souped as Priest but was not.
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ooooookay and this would then be why you're just leaving analysis related to this completely out of your gameplan, because it's not really part of your play in the first place.

 

Cobalt is a wolf.

 

My only memory of wolf!Cobalt is the opposite of having respect for anyone :V
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oh shit I just realized that because the tag for strikethrough is "s", it means both "strikethrough" and "sarcasm"

Super interesting!