I mean apology accepted I guess, I just was under the (apparently mistaken) impression that posting for the sake of it was something you did :V

anyway this is good keep it up nothing really to add on top of Gemma's current lines of thought (I'll be honest and say this appearance is not what I expected from scum!Vaimes because I feel like scum!Vaimes would be a little more, erm, conciliatory :V)
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like idk of all the reactions to being scumread this game, flat outrage is not the one I expected :v

 

it got less fun when people were using it to push on me (incorrectly, for the longest time, but then Princess happened so like I /get/ it, but it still sucks)
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pffft, outrage feels too strong a word

but I guess compared to my usual level of zen maybe it looks like that

 

I mean yeah I guess I can see that if you were having town motivational problems and people were interpreting them as scum motivational problems. There's a kind of compound tilt effect where your posting gets read as scummy which makes you want to post less which makes people interpret that as MORE scummy, yeah?

PREVIEW EDIT: yeah the start of #2137 is the, erm, sassiest I've ever seen you :V

 

Yes.

I attribute the actual emotional strength of an utterance to the tone, rather than the words, since I find it fun to exaggerate. Which of course paves the way for misunderstandings, which is why I tend to do it more often in journals or QTs, where it won't confuse anyone. Eh.
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also I will admit I did disappear/ignore mafia to speedwatch season two of Jessica Jones :V

 

Yeah so guess what feedback loop ALSO hit me this game, although with attempts at generating content rather than lowposting (i.e. generate scummy content, get called scummy, get tilted, generate MORE scummy content). Fun times :v

And yeah, that's fair. But like even "honestly getting pissed off" is further than I'm familiar with I think. Your usual level of zen is fairly impressive.

PREVIEW EDIT: okay I can't be mad about that decision honestly, it's a good show (I remember liking season 1)

 

legitimately thought dC wrote this

 

Slightly distracted by Regfan but yeah, honestly if you're town Vaimes I think you need to be doing a little more than what you have been so far this dayphase. I understand there not being a lot to talk about with Asmo/Waco being basically always mafia here for you and everyone else either cleared or consensus town and I get that being scumread just for not posting a ton can be frustrating but people's reads on you here are real, you're going to have address them in one way or another. I'm pretty much the only person entertaining a townread on you here so if you're actually town then gamesolving in whatever ways you're able is going to go a long way in helping everyone else to see that.

I realize that's pretty broad but I don't actually have time to go through anything with you right now and am about to sleep so, if nothing else just go through ISO's, quote some posts that stand out to you and talk about how you feel about them.

 

???

 

Vaimes
Newcomb
Tom
Cobalt
dichotomousCreator
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Gemma
Waco Kid
Asmodeus

So, if I'm understanding correctly, I have a PoE that I feel comfortable with (or rather, there are 2-3 townfirms plus a guy I'm fairly certain is never mafia), which leaves three names for two witches in a normal, reasonable world. In which case my lynch order is uh, not incredibly important. I'd save Gemma for last. Oh actually I guess I can talk about that a bit.

but it feels like a weird "go do busywork!" thing to like, gamesolve by having townreads, but then to do the same work backwards and gamesolve by having (and justifying) scumreads when...that usually isn't how it works for me

 

Vaimes, can’t you agree that Waco/Asmo is probably w/v and if one is a hit we should AVOID lynching the other?

Partner would be Gemma in your world but I really just think it’s you..... lol
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I mean I’d be frustrated too if the game was basically lost already but I just don’t think any of that posting was frustrated town.

 

I don't really have a ~lot~ to say about Gemma but it's busywork (for you guys, you're welcome) and it's the only stance I feel comfortable taking in "where is the villager in your PoE"

(inb4 Cobalt busts in here and cries about how I bus under pressure and that his Vaimes + one of Asmo/Waco world is hard-confirmed gg no re, hi)

preview edit: oh hi thar

in that specific scenario I would lynch Gemma, or someone is playing really well slash hiding behind a fakeclaim

Cobalt you're saying like, the exact same thing from when you and I were bitching at each other and Vira was laughing in the corner, so like...forgive me for feeling a little tilted at you

 

Tilt away.
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I mean I really could be wrong but I have a PoE of 3 and I don’t see Waco/Asmo as both witches for LOTS of reasons.

 

Justify your townlock on Cobalt, to start? I mean from memory you kind of already did that but it was pretty short so at least requote it or something. Then yeah the ordering of your remaining three is a good topic.

You're not wrong that there's not much to talk about, but you gotta talk about SOMEthing so people can read you :v
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I wanna hear about these lots of reasons and also why Jari/Stanari scumworlds were dismissed, actually.

 

dC I swear, if the original points did it for you, then nothing will

I'm not going to use more words to say the exact same thing

If you have specific questions, please, fire.
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if the original points didn't* do it for you

wow grammar
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boop
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ooh, me too

 

Most of them were discussed in my big Waco posts, mainly the way Waco and Asmo both posted wrt Shadow D1 feels like one or the other and not both, the way Waco pushed Asmo for Shadow’s not-TMI D2 and this phase after learning Tom was town and also Asmo’s general attitude towards Waco.

Jari/Stanari scum worlds were dismissed for several reasons. D1 wagons were most likely w/v for aforementioned reasons that if Jari and Shadow knew they were both going down because lynch and lump they could’ve planned a death curse to definitely kill the priest N2 instead of elsewhere because he was saved. The fact that Newcomb lived N2 means Shadow was the only dead witch.

Also Stanari was def unaligned with Shadow because of the way she posted at him EoD 1 and her frustration towards the thread not lynching him which I thought was scummy only when I thought Shadow was town.

Newcomb not dying is the most compelling piece of evidence that Shadow is the only dead witch.
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That and the fact that if Jari/Stanari were scum and there were 2 dead there’d be nothing left to do but yolosoup given the PoE.

So game would basically be over at that point.

 

No, because that instantly loses the game, whereas it's possible for the last Wich to endgame traditionally (or at least wait until the last possible minute to Soup instead of just lolyoloing it N3)
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That's a good point re: shadow definitely being the only witch.

There is a world where Death Curse wasn't used because lulzy newbcoven (which has to be considered, given that people like dC "skim" the OP and think Last Gasp means something other than what it means)

 

Okay I guess, but that’s irrelevant because Shadow is only dead witch.

 

I'm not saying I'm not convinced (I'm not planning to kill him either), but even the conversation we're having about this is better than nothing.

Okay but I wouldn't do that as scum :V
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Not sure I understand this. Shouldn't two witches alive mean MORE fear of a living Priest hitting one of them?

 

Unfortunately, that particular sentiment is a little hard to evaluate in practice.
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okay fine yes that is correct

man I feel like Iso right now