I could see this. Regfan doesn't seem to get to tsaiah naturally AT ALL and beru... I kind of want to withold part of my read there until I have read more of their posts but I have seen repeated mentions of sub meta and feel like they've kind of doubled and tripled down on this silly push that WAS free but is getting more costly...?

 

Sure, but Empoof's push on Citrus was really bad. As was his immediate turn around on Beru when he got back to the thread and was the counterwagon.

 

I'm on the end of say it just so I can know wtf makes me "lock wolf" from something that isn't even from me

 

I basically said it blatantly earlier in the game and said you'd agree.
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Well, when it looked like it could be headed the other direction, at least.

 

Fine I'll spell it out. 99% sure Tsaiah has a wolf meta that basically means they're never going to summon up the wim to post and play the game if they get sick, and that if they were town they would have at least tried.

It's part of why I've been poking at Empoof despite thinking Tsaiah is town, just Beru kind of beat the read over the head with a sledgehammer lack of subtlety in a way that feels kind of gross.

I don't think it's as slam dunk as Beru does, but it's what this dance is about. Talking about gross things.

 

This sounds like "caught for the wrong reasons," my dude.

 

Why the hell not? It's probably TRUE which makes it INNOCENT and then you can just "oh my god what the hell she was actually just sick this time tsaiah pls!"

Truth pushes are potent, do you think beru never takes advantage of meta to push things as a wolf???????

 

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd that's exactly what my overnight ~thoughts~ and ~things~ were on the slot.

I also don't think it's a slam dunk alone, but I'm pretty sure the slots scum just from Empoofs play alone.

 

I pushed on Citrus and got caught up with the bad feelings of misunderstanding and thought it was AI. Cirtus looked really really good after over what I missed. Like almost everything. You can even see me start to reevaluate on him in the moment after my push when I wanted to try and work with him to see mindset more. Beru looked like actual garbage. Literally ATEing off the map and making decisions she wouldn't make as a villager with no followup.

 

Do you really think I would dropkick Empoof into the sun in a game where people don't know Tsaiah meta if we were both wolves?

I'd probably be like "wow, Empoof could be town, maybe? Ummm, ok, I'll trust him for now" and then go do something else and have ~trepidation feels~ based on getting rekt by Yetisaiah in Psychichunt or whatever.
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Did she actually fall off a cliff irl?

Oh no....

 

I dunno. Meta is one thing but when you bring sickness into it and start to question that/make alignment reads off it, it just doesn't feel great to me.

 

Can't offer an opinion on this, sorry. Could possibly rush one but I'm kinda viewing this from a wide angle and it just seems consensus and comfortable, fmpov.

 

I mean, I had the thought of "Tsaiah is dropping off while sick, exactly like her last scum game with me" as well. But, alright.
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Consensus doesn't mean bad.

 

So what happens when tsaiah gets too sick to post and subs out as town?

That's actually just not an alignment indicative thing at all

 

Well yeah that's both fucking disgusting and explicitly against the rules. But considering it's apparently a major basis for this wagon it is what it is and it is bullshit unless someone can point me to examples of scummy posts by tsaiah.

 

Dude, open up Empoofs ISO and have a read through.

 

Figuratively.

 

It does to me when consensus with this lineup produced a steaming pile of villager d1 and d2 nobody is being particularly critical afaict.
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I will do this but again, this began BEFORE THE SUB and seems to have little to do with EMPOOFS POSTING which i'm willing to bet is going to be a defensive nonsensical mess of trying to figure out who wants to kill him because tsaiah got ill and who is actually a wolf (if he's not, ofc)

 

I think it's best if everyone drops the sick/IRL meta can of worms that's been opened and stops talking about things in that context, before a real issue is caused. Keep it to non-IRL/sick meta stuff please

 

Dlgn, it has nothing to do with my vote on Empoof, at least. All the dropoff did was stop me from townreading Tsaiah D1 when consistent activity along the lines of her initial posting would have had me townread her.